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Gil Brandt says he’d draft Denard Robinson to be a cornerback

Some project Robinson as a receiver in the pros.

NFL draft consultant and former Dallas Cowboys general manager Gil Brandt has another idea.

“I’d draft him to be a cornerback,” Brandt said. “A quarterback never wants to be told he’s going to have to play another position, but I don’t think he can play quarterback in the NFL. I do know teams are always looking for cornerbacks, and I think Robinson could do it because of his quickness and speed.

“But he’d have to want to do it to make it work.”

Robinson has declined to say much about what position he wants to attempt to play at the next level, saying he just wants to enjoy his senior season.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/ex-nfl-gm-gil-brandt-says-hed-draft-michigans-denard-robinson-to-be-a-cornerback-in-the-pros/2012/12/24/6fa51d0a-4df1-11e2-835b-02f92c0daa43_story.html

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December 24th, 2012 at 3:39 PM | Tackling (Score:4 Normal)
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Some stupid coach tried to put Willie Beamon at cb, separated his shoulder. But I think you have to know how to tackle to play corner in the NFL.

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December 24th, 2012 at 4:28 PM | Now he's (Score:2 Funny)
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"Steaming" Willie Beamon!

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December 24th, 2012 at 7:27 PM | Merry christmas to you sir (Score:2 Normal)
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this post made my christmas eve.  how long have you been waiting to use this?

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December 24th, 2012 at 9:05 PM | Said I got quick feet.. I'm a (Score:4 Insightful)
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Said I got quick feet.. I'm a quarterback, I'm not made to tackle 230 pounds motherfuckers.

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December 24th, 2012 at 3:42 PM | Why not? If Chip Kelly does (Score:1 Overrated)
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Why not? If Chip Kelly does get a head coaching gig in the pros coupling Denard with Kelly's system would be fairly electric.  Come to think about it imagine if Kelly went out and also got Tebow, Denard and Dixon to be his QB's - wouldnt take much of a cap hit at all and he'd have a dream team of spread QBs if and when one got hurt.

 

 

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December 24th, 2012 at 3:54 PM | Options (Score:4 Normal)
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Think of the options - literally and figuratively - if all three of them were in the backfield at the same time. Multiple reverses. Triple option. Read option. Pitch out then a pass. Etc.

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December 24th, 2012 at 5:39 PM | Speaking of options... (Score:-1 Overrated)
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...I had a three way with a bisexual couple last night and my head is still spinning trying to figrue what that means.  Just way too many options...

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December 24th, 2012 at 7:12 PM | They'd have 3 different ways (Score:5 Normal)
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They'd have 3 different ways to throw an interception on the same play!

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December 24th, 2012 at 3:56 PM | That's true, but Kelly (Score:4 Normal)
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That's true, but Kelly actually doesn't prefer Denard-like guys (runners playing quarterback). He said he likes a passer that can keep a defense honest with his legs, and also that he would not have wanted Tebow in college. Either way, I can't wait to see what he does in the NFL.

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December 25th, 2012 at 2:09 AM | He'll hire a veteran NFL OC (Score:1)
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He'll hire a veteran NFL OC and run the same system the Skins do. 

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December 24th, 2012 at 3:59 PM | And who would be able to (Score:5 Normal)
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And who would be able to complete a pass against an NFL secondary?

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December 24th, 2012 at 5:57 PM | The Little Things (Score:2 Normal)
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I don't think Denard is good enough at the read part of the zone read to be really really great at it.  It's the small things that other QBs do that put them over the top. I believe Pat White was a better fit in RR's offense.  Watch Taylor Martinez on an inverted veer handoff and how long he holds onto the ball before taking off upfield.  Would be very interesting to see though.  Makes one wonder if Oregon's success would be sustainable without their mastermind.

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December 24th, 2012 at 3:53 PM | I always thought the reasons (Score:3 Normal)
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I always thought the reasons people gave for why Denard couldn't play QB in the NFL were because (1) he's not an accurate enough thrower; (2) his decision making skills are not good enough; and (3) he is prone to injury. 

Looking specifically at that third reason, how is moving him to a position that requires him to hit people going to prevent him from getting injured? Sadly, I think he needs to be a Desmond Howard-type, where he makes his living in the return game. 

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December 24th, 2012 at 9:37 PM | "... how is moving him to a (Score:3 Normal)
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"... how is moving him to a position that requires him to hit people going to prevent him from getting injured?"

I'm reminded of what Butch Woolfolk told his son Troy about playing football -- "Be the guy who does the hitting, not the guy who takes the hits."  Perhaps there's something about being the initiator rather than recipient that reduces (impossible to eliminate) the risk of injury? 

I end on a question mark because I honestly don't know.  Would seem to make some sense, but darned if I could articulate why.

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December 25th, 2012 at 1:32 AM | I'd rather be a hammer than a nail (Score:3 Normal)
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Paul Simon agrees with Butch - "I'd rather be a hammer than a nail."

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December 24th, 2012 at 4:06 PM | I'm doubtful about Denard's (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm doubtful about Denard's prospects at the next level, but I actually think playing nickel or something might not be a bad idea. We don't know how well he can catch, although perhaps playing slot and catching some drags and outs would be feasible. But, Denard is strong and tough and doesn't shy away from contact. I think returning kicks will be his most likely landing spot, I could see the attraction to the idea of him playing corner, in addition to wide receiver. He could probably take snaps as a wild cat or at runningback, but he'd probably transition to WR over time for a number of reasons, health being an important one. 

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December 24th, 2012 at 4:17 PM | Antwaan Randle El (Score:2 Normal)
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IMO, that is his future...

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December 24th, 2012 at 4:28 PM | I see that as the most ideal (Score:3 Normal)
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I see that as the most ideal or ceiling for him- although I'd love to be proven wrong.

Whatever position will let him play works for me- it'd be great to see him suit up Sunday's no matter where on the field he plays!

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December 24th, 2012 at 4:21 PM | I always thought that he (Score:1)
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I always thought that he would be drafted for special teams. I think punt return would be perfect for him.

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December 24th, 2012 at 4:32 PM | Lions (Score:1)
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Lions

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December 24th, 2012 at 4:41 PM | For Denard's sake, I hope he (Score:5 Normal)
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For Denard's sake, I hope he never ends up with the Lions.

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December 24th, 2012 at 5:55 PM | If he survived the rich rod era, (Score:2 Normal)
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he can survive the lions. Very comparable levels of incompetency.

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December 24th, 2012 at 5:27 PM | I think he may even have a (Score:2)
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I think he may even have a chance in RB role. He's proven that he's not especially fragile and the RB core entering the draft this year is extremely weak. He just needs to learn how to block and maybe put on some more weight, which he may be able to do given that he doesn't  need to work on throwing mechanics anymore. 

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December 24th, 2012 at 4:32 PM | denard's future is wr/rb (Score:3 Normal)
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Not at corner....corner makes a mistake they give up a td......and that mistake isn't one speed prevents cause a mistake gives up 3 or 4 full speed strides before you get the shot to correct it.....and a good nfl wr is already going down field and fast enough that you paid for it with 6pts......

Denard is that dangerous in the open field that getting him 5 to 10 touches a game is worth it....cause he can break it on any touch and is good enough to generate his own yds.......

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December 24th, 2012 at 4:45 PM | slot receiver (Score:3 Normal)
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slot receiver

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December 24th, 2012 at 4:49 PM | I don't see Denard on (Score:1 Normal)
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I don't see Denard on defense. I don't think he's tall enough to be an elite corner. Plus he's only played on offense his whole life.



I'd love to see him in the slot or as a change of pace, east-west RB, but I think his best option to succeed is in the return game. Give him the ball in space, and he is a very dangerous weapon that will be able to outrun most, if not everyone on the field.



Either way, I think Denard is third day pick, maybe a very late second day pick depending on how he does at the Combine. He'll be a guy that some team is willing to take a chance on and will look at him as a project. He's a low risk, potentially very high reward kind of pick. He has the kind of elite athleticism that would make me absolutely shocked to see him not get picked up by anyone.

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December 25th, 2012 at 2:14 AM | Denard played corner his (Score:3 Normal)
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Denard played corner his entire career before Michigan and was recruited at corner to a number of schools, including Florida. 

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December 25th, 2012 at 4:54 AM | Denard never played corner.  (Score:-1 Overrated)
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Denard never played corner.  Ever.

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December 25th, 2012 at 11:16 AM | two way starter in HS (Score:2 Normal)
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In High School he was a cornerback on D  - he was a 2 way starter - Urban wanted him with the Gators at corner.

 

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December 24th, 2012 at 4:56 PM | So, he's not tall enough to (Score:4 Normal)
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So, he's not tall enough to be a QB...but tall enough to be a corner? I know that cb's aren't necessarily very tall, but you'd be asking a guy that's only played offense to learn a whole new set of skills...I hope nobody is paying Brandt very much...

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December 24th, 2012 at 5:53 PM | Except people draft (Score:1)
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Projects in the 4th round and later every year. It's really not all that much of a risk either because the guaranteed money is so little at that stage in the draft.

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December 26th, 2012 at 2:16 PM | his size has little to do (Score:1)
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his size has little to do with it... if he could throw like Drew Brees, he'd have a shot. But he's horrendously reckless with his arm.

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December 24th, 2012 at 5:03 PM | combine (Score:1)
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at the combine, would denard be given a shot at qb or would it be as a wideout/rb?

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December 24th, 2012 at 5:24 PM |  The players ultimately (Score:1)
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 The players ultimately decide where they will work out. Teams can request guys to do specific drills and I don't think anyone is dumb enough to say to their possible future employer waving a million dollar check

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December 24th, 2012 at 5:03 PM | I don't know if this even (Score:2 Funny)
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I don't know if this even means anything since it's coming from the Cowboys.

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December 24th, 2012 at 5:16 PM | No way! (Score:0 Overrated)
umbig11
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I love Denard and everythin UM, but that is way off to me! Denard is a finesse player. He would never hold up in the pros. Sorry.

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December 24th, 2012 at 5:21 PM |  Yea finesse players like (Score:0 Overrated)
B1G_Fan
Joined: 10/11/2012
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 Yea finesse players like Barry Sanders and Gayle Sayers never do well in the NFL

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December 24th, 2012 at 5:38 PM | You do realize Sanders was (Score:5 Normal)
CLord
Joined: 09/11/2011
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You do realize Sanders was built like a brick meatball right? His thighs were as thick as his waist. Denard is far more delicately framed sadly.

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December 24th, 2012 at 6:26 PM | What is a brick meatball? (Score:1)
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by the way

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December 24th, 2012 at 6:42 PM | Sex move homie. (Score:3 Normal)
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Sex move homie.

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December 24th, 2012 at 8:32 PM | And Gale Sayers (Score:2)
M-Wolverine
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Had his career cut way short by injuries.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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December 26th, 2012 at 12:47 AM | I used to deliver pizzas (Score:2)
jabberwock
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 to Billy Sims's thighs.

Wait, that doesn't sound right.

Love & Hate are horns on the same goat.

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December 24th, 2012 at 6:07 PM | Cribbs (Score:2 Normal)
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Denard will return kicks, play slot and run the WC like Josh Cribbs.

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-Rod Serling

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December 24th, 2012 at 5:19 PM |  I've only seen Denard (Score:2 Normal)
B1G_Fan
Joined: 10/11/2012
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 I've only seen Denard attempt a tackle once and he got injured on that attempt. I think this is why Gil is the EX general manager of the Dallas cowboys

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December 24th, 2012 at 5:57 PM | His ceiling is (Score:1)
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Hester or Randel El

Yes...that guy.

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December 25th, 2012 at 11:32 AM | Most likely... (Score:2)
Sleepy
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...ends up in the "faster Julian Edelman" range.

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December 24th, 2012 at 6:07 PM | Thanks Al (Score:0 Overrated)
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These types of articles really annoy because it shows what a diservice we've shown Denard by having Al as OC. 

A heisman likely canadate with elite speed is now a probable third round selection because we didn't coach his talent correctly. In most years, Ok, a spread QB wont make it in the NFL but with RGIII and Wilson's success Denard had a real shot at something special and Michigan botched it. 

I feel bad for Denard being a team player. He deserves better than we gave him. I like Dave and Brady, but this will always be a thorn in my claw with the two. With all the talk about U-M football being a business, we just royally screwed a good human being out of future money. 

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December 24th, 2012 at 6:30 PM | RR did put him in an offense (Score:3 Normal)
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RR did put him in an offense that properly utilize his talents and he still wasn't anywhere near RGIII's level when it came time to play elite teams with NFL talent on defense. Granted, he was still young, but he hasn't ever been a terribly accurate passer or made very good decisions, and this was with Junior Hemingway bailing him out a lot.

 

 

"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch"

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December 24th, 2012 at 8:03 PM | He deserves better than we (Score:4 Normal)
UMFoster
Joined: 01/24/2011
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He deserves better than we gave him? If it wasn't for Michigan he would probably be playing corner at Florida. I don't think he would have been as successful at another school playing corner. I think Michigan and the new coaching staff did a good job with him.

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December 24th, 2012 at 8:38 PM | Wilson ran the furthest thing from a spread in college. (Score:3 Normal)
M-Wolverine
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They were more MANBALL than we ever were. And sorry, but RG3 is special. There isn't a coach out there that was making Denard a top pick at QB. No more than Pat White.

If you really want to talk about coaches costing him money, putting him at QB and then not moving him to his NFL position cost him money. But the outrage over a move would have been thunderous from the likes of you.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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