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October 20th, 2011 at 3:05 PM
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Gholston Suspended by Big 10

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102011aaa.html

 

Oct. 20, 2011

Park Ridge, Ill. – The Big Ten Conference office announced that it will impose a one-game suspension on Michigan State University football student-athlete William Gholston for violating the Big Ten Sportslike Conduct Agreement during Michigan State’s game against Michigan on Oct. 15, 2011.

The Big Ten determined that Gholston’s actions at the end of the third quarter of the Michigan contest violated Big Ten Conference Agreement 10.01.1.A.1 - “Striking or attempting to strike or otherwise physically abusing an official, opposing coach, spectator or athlete.” The conference office also publicly reprimanded Gholston for his actions.

The Big Ten Sportslike Conduct Agreement states that “It shall be the responsibility of each member university to ensure that all of its students and all individuals employed by or directly associated with it comport themselves in a sportslike manner when representing their university, especially at intercollegiate athletic contests.”

The Big Ten Conference considers this matter concluded and will have no further comment.

 

 

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October 20th, 2011 at 3:06 PM | Well good, we knew Michigan (Score:5 Normal)
ChuckWood
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Well good, we knew Michigan State wouldn't do it.

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October 20th, 2011 at 3:16 PM | Love that picture of Tom. (Score:5 Normal)
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Love that picture of Tom. Hahahaha

October 20th, 2011 at 3:21 PM | Good thing (Score:3 Funny)
MichFan1997
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Gholston isn't on the MSU Basketball team. Practice would get confusing to him and he'd start rampaging.

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October 20th, 2011 at 3:16 PM | (Score:3 Normal)
MGoRusty
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I like how he still doesn't take full responsibility, he throws in "although provoked" in his apology. Just man up quit trying to make what you did not seem your fault.

October 20th, 2011 at 5:50 PM | Maybe Lewan... (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm sure Denard was saying some pretty terrible stuff to deserve that mask twist.  We all know how terrible a person Denard is.

/s

October 20th, 2011 at 8:54 PM | C'mon...we've got the Ed Hightower precedent... (Score:1)
Fredgoblu
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...whereby smiling after a play could get a technical foul. If memory serves me right, he told Jalen Rose if he smiled again (at the NU game) he'd get a T. Surely Denard provokes his opponents by smiling after a tackle, and giving them a little-brother pat-on-the-head.

October 20th, 2011 at 7:56 PM | Appeal (Score:2)
mmp
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Is this something they can appeal if they wanted?

October 20th, 2011 at 8:51 PM | MSU has announced that they are accepting it. (Score:1)
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But that doesn't exactly answer your question, and I don't know the answer.

One wonders whether there may have been some communication between MSU an the B1G; i.e., if we make just Gholston, and just for Wisconsin, will you accept it and not appeal?  (Knowing what a shitstorm there would be if, perchance, the B1G wanted more games or more players suspended, and MSU said that they weren't accpeting it and would appeal and somehow force any other penalties out to later in the season for games like Minnesota, all the while knowing that at least a one-game suspension for Gohlston was completely inarguable.)

 

 

October 21st, 2011 at 2:45 AM | I don't think (Score:1)
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I don't think anyone else was in danger of getting suspended, what Rush did was definitely a personal foul and he got flagged for it, but nothing to warrent a suspension. I mean I know Dantonio has absolutely no rules or standards for his football team but I can't believe even after seeing the film he still didn't think what WG did was dirty and was going to go unpunished. What makes it worse is that Hollis was probably 100% behind Coach D, that whole A.D. is a joke.

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October 20th, 2011 at 9:09 PM | Maybe Michigan should appeal... (Score:0 Trolling)
October 20th, 2011 at 3:07 PM | I still feel 1 game is a little small (Score:4 Normal)
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At least it's for the Wisconsin game though! Are they allowed to appeal?

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October 20th, 2011 at 3:15 PM | is there precedent for a (Score:2)
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is there precedent for a longer suspension? one game seems to be the norm for fouls of this nature. granted, there were two penalties that could have resulted in suspension, but i never expected anything more than a game.

i hope his replacement plays terribly and wisconsin runs all over him.

October 20th, 2011 at 3:34 PM | What does his replacement (Score:2 Funny)
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What does his replacement have to do with anything? Wisconwin was going to run a train over MSU regardless of whether or not Tom played

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October 20th, 2011 at 5:03 PM | agreed that wisco would own (Score:2)
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agreed that wisco would own them either way. it would just be nice to see that position specifically targeted so the blame could end up on gholston's shoulders.

October 20th, 2011 at 6:52 PM | State (Score:1)
ijohnb
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tuned Wisconsin up last year. Don't know why the popular sentiment is Wisky in a rout.

October 20th, 2011 at 4:00 PM | Maybe no precedent (Score:5 Normal)
Farmhouse Funk
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But he punched someone and twisted a defensless and already tackled players helmet.

What this says to me is if you punch someone it is a one game suspension then you get all your other punches or personal fouls for free with no punishment.

He should have gotten at least 2 games for what he did.

October 20th, 2011 at 4:32 PM | It says something different to me. (Score:3 Normal)
Yeoman
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It says that the only conduct that will get you a suspension is a punch. Facemask twists in the pile and body slams after the whistle aren't punishable offenses.

I'd like to think the B1G would at least have done something about Reynolds-Sorgi if Tressel hadn't, but we'll never know and I'm starting to wonder.

October 20th, 2011 at 4:37 PM | What a great point! (Score:1)
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One that is probably now unanswerable on the part of Delany.

 

 

October 20th, 2011 at 5:05 PM | theoretically, he should get (Score:2)
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theoretically, he should get a 2 game suspension, one for each of those acts. i just had zero expectation of that happening, and i'm not really outraged about the system. getting suspended sends the message that his actions were unacceptable. that's the important thing.

October 21st, 2011 at 9:05 AM | Arm-bar? (Score:1)
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Why is no one talking about the arm-bar on Lewan.  All anyone is talking about is the punch.  The punch is stupid and he should be suspended for it but the punch and the late hits happen in football and they were called.  What I don't understand is why the 2 plays that are most obviously trying to hurt Michigan players (Denard Facemask, Lewan Arm-bar) didn't get called and were not addressed in the suspension.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL4iM4vNKF0&feature=related 

Watch the video.  Gholston wraps his right arm around Lewan's and takes him to the ground and rolls his entire body weight onto Lewan's arm.  Pause at 48 sec.

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October 20th, 2011 at 9:06 PM | Well...let's look mat it this way... (Score:0 Trolling)
October 20th, 2011 at 3:07 PM | Closure (Score:1 Normal)
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Well, at least we have closure.  I'm a bit bummed that its only a game given the multiple offenses but it is what it is.

 

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October 20th, 2011 at 3:07 PM | Effective when? (Score:4 Normal)
93Grad
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it better be for the Wiscy game.  Also- only 1 game?  He should have gotten another game off for the facemask twist which was a deliberate attempt to injure

October 20th, 2011 at 3:12 PM | Agree (Score:3 Normal)
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The Big Ten should explain its policy on these things.  All we have to go on right now judging from Mouton's suspension and Gholston's is "one dong punch = one punch to the face + one facemask twist + one attempted arm break."  That seems like some fuzzy math right there. 

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October 20th, 2011 at 4:26 PM | I like fuzzy math! (Score:1)
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I like fuzzy math!

 

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October 20th, 2011 at 3:33 PM | Be careful... (Score:2 Informative)
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...what you wish for.  It's worse for us if he sits this weekend out and plays against Nebraska, our mutual divisional opponent.

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October 20th, 2011 at 3:07 PM | Fair enough (Score:2)
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For all the fervor over this, this just seemed like a foregone conclusion.

October 20th, 2011 at 3:08 PM | Not enough, but not (Score:2)
enlightenedbum
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Not enough, but not surprising.

October 20th, 2011 at 3:09 PM | Double post (Score:0 Redundant)
October 20th, 2011 at 3:17 PM | the dismissive attitude of (Score:4 Normal)
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the dismissive attitude of msu doesn't really come into play; this isn't the ncaa investigating a program.

October 20th, 2011 at 7:15 PM | Dimisive attitude?  You mean (Score:-1 Flamebait)
October 20th, 2011 at 9:04 PM | I'm assuming you meant "news" (Score:5 Normal)
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I'm assuming you meant "news" conference and I'm assuming that you meant RR's response to the Mouton "punch." And if I'm correct in those assumptions, then I'm certain that you are either a hopeless Spartyslappy, or mentally ill, or both.

First of all, the sneaky knucklebrush given by Mouton was nothing compared to the arm bar, the facemask twist, and the punch given by Gholston, any one of which was several orders of magnitude greater than what Mouton did. And in point of fact, Mouton did one thing while Gholston did three.

Second, while RR's brush off of Mouton's "punch" was probably more dismissive that most M fans would like, it was nothing compared to the willful and transparent stall tactics by Dantonio et al.

I mean, c'mon, man.

October 20th, 2011 at 3:10 PM | Someone, (Score:3 Normal)
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has to be the conscience of the program.  Dantonio has proven he can't handle the responsibility.

October 20th, 2011 at 3:12 PM | Wording (Score:4 Normal)
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The wording of the release was interesting.  I don't know if it's just boilerplate, but it read as kind of stinging towards MSU when they say that the Big Ten has imposed the suspension and that it is the responsibility of member institutions to enforce it.

October 20th, 2011 at 3:14 PM | I read it the same way as you (Score:0 Trolling)
October 20th, 2011 at 3:57 PM | I think, (Score:1)
ontarioblue
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Ohio State has found their next coach.  He is a perfect replacement to Tressel.

October 20th, 2011 at 4:42 PM | I know he just signed a new contract but, (Score:1)
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I bet he already has a realtor and the designer is already working on his secure booster comunication vault under the garage.

October 20th, 2011 at 3:11 PM | When a player sells a jersey, (Score:5 Normal)
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When a player sells a jersey, they get a 4-5 game suspension.

When a player makes numerous attempts to injure other players, including throwing a punch and trying to break another player's neck, they get 1 game.

How does this make any sense?

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October 20th, 2011 at 3:18 PM | I'm with you on this one. I'm (Score:2 Normal)
SoCalWolverine
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I'm with you on this one. I'm not surprised to say the least. I still say the punch was the least egregious of the incidents involving him on Saturday.

But, alas, it's over. Time to move on.

October 20th, 2011 at 3:23 PM | It doesn't. But many (Score:0 Overrated)
October 20th, 2011 at 4:04 PM | It makes perfect sense (Score:5 Normal)
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A punch is just a punch.  When a player sells a jersey, however, that is a direct threat to an entire industry which exists primarily through exclusive access to free labor.

October 20th, 2011 at 3:12 PM | So this is what it feels (Score:1 Normal)
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Like to get fucked by the justice system.

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October 20th, 2011 at 3:13 PM | Reading Mark Charboneau's (Score:3 Informative)
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Reading Mark Charboneau's tweets, it reeeeeeally doesn't sound like either MSU or Gholston is sorry. Ie.

Gholston: "Although provoked, my response was inappropriate."

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October 20th, 2011 at 3:14 PM | WAH WAH (Score:2)
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he was blocking me and saying things, mommy! I had to hit him!!

Let's also make this the final thread on Gholston.

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October 20th, 2011 at 9:40 PM | +1 (Score:0)
October 20th, 2011 at 3:21 PM | ugh (Score:2 Insightful)
snowcrash
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His punching Lewan is no big deal, as there was no way Lewan would be hurt by that. The issue is his trying to break Robinson's neck after the play had been blown dead and while Robinson was defenseless on the ground. Was that "provoked"?

It should have been 2 games at least, probably more like 5. What he did to Robinson was much, much worse than what those other guys were suspended for.  

October 20th, 2011 at 3:14 PM | Suspended for punching Lewan only (Score:2)
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Apparently, this suspension is just for the punch against Lewan.

http://spartannation.com/2011/10/20/b1g-suspends-michigan-state-de-willi...

No word about whether they're looking into the facemask incident.

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October 20th, 2011 at 3:34 PM | "As all observed, Coach (Score:2 Funny)
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"As all observed, Coach (Mark) Dantonio and his staff reinforced this practice by immediately pulling him from the game and coaching him." ":"

What a joke. Gholston punched him, then turned & walked off. Dantonio did not run out to coach him. Also, what was he out for? Like one play? He was not pulled out, he walked off immediately after punching Lewan. What were they coaching him on? How to hit Lewan more squarely next time?

October 20th, 2011 at 9:00 PM | The punch was only Gholston's 4th worst offense of the day (Score:1)
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1) Pulling Denard's Facemask: Deliberate attempt to injure DRob's neck

2) The arm chop/pull of Lewan's arm below himself/flop on top of it: Deliberate attempt to break Lewan's arm

3) Throwing DRob to the ground well after the play: Attempt to injure a defenseless DRob

4) The punch.  While there is language explicitly characterizing a punch as a suspendable offense, in light of the other three, it really wasn't that big of a deal.  If the B1G actually suspended Gholston for this & ignored the other three egregious acts, then it has no common sense.  Maybe it's just CYA.  We know Gholston committed three egregious acts, but let's suspend him on the letter of the law for the fourth inconsequential act.

October 20th, 2011 at 3:14 PM | How times have changed (Score:5 Normal)
Don
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Since now the University of Miami takes proactive steps all by itself to suspend players for misconduct, I think we can safely say that Thug U. has moved north to East Lansing.


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