Unfortunately, it might not be that far fetched of an idea. It would resemble something similar to what Delaney had in mind with the Pac10 relationship that fell through.
Georgia Tech, B1G approved?
the Big Demographic conference
I'm good at math, so I see the disconnect between the name Big "Ten" and 16 teams -- but why are people so upset about it? The name Big Ten has history and is a recognizable brand. A very short, quick, of odd and maybe not peferct examples from the top of my head:
Brands and companies change hands all the time as brand names. For example, Ashton Martin (founded by the Lionel Martin near Ashton Clinton in England) was owned by Ford from 94-07. They didn't call the cars Ashton Martin-Fords.
They don't play much Jazz in Utah
Boneless Chicken Wings aren't wings at all...they're just breaded balls of chicken. Chicken fingers aren't fingers.
Many fruit juices don't contain much fruit, they just taste like it.
I should probably stop with the examples now...Point is, as long as we have the history, and tradition of the Big Ten the number doesn't matter. I love the Big Ten and I'd love it to stay that way, even if we end up with 16 teams and stretch from Georgia to Wisconsin.
uhhhh its Aston Martin.
but it got the "Aston" name for the nearby Aston Clinton Hillclimb.
I guess the branding didn't work.
Oops. Can't even blame it on a typo because I made the mistake three times in as many sentences. Autcorrect? Yeah, let's go with that.
We wont have to change the logo!
Recurring Air Force defensive nightmare. Of course, we'll only play them once every 20 years, or something like that.
I saw this coming but thought it would take much longer.
That option attack will give Mattison's defense fits once every 15 years we play them.
Well, at least it's a better addition than the last two.
Next thing you are going to tell me is that Maryland or Rutgers are joining ...
Kind of want a contiguous footprint, but I suppose I'm being nitpicky.
Georgia Tech is a horrible football team. Just awful. Holy nutsack.
Well, they are 664–447–43 (a .575 winning percentage). That'd put them somewhere at 6th in the conference behind 5th Minnesota and above (now) 7th MSU. Out of the current 14 members, not so bad.
But they can still win the ACC this year!
...then I won't mind this too much.
Of course, 10 conf games will probably only happen if the playoffs guarantees the conf winner access...make it happen Delany! So sick of MAC schools.
It also exists.
Wouldn't fit in the Delaney scheme. More likely Wright State.
Lets leave my Flyers out of these shenanigans.
Subscription bait for the stupid Clemson fanbase. Fuck Clemson.
This site had Clemson and FSU to the Big 12 like a year ago and again like 6 months ago.
I'm not saying it's won't happen, but these guys are just throwing it against the wall and seeing what sticks.
May I suggest THE BIG AWESOME ?
Maybe there's trying to setup an easier division breakdown. "Legends" would be the original teams and "Leaders" could be all the shitty programs we've picked up, plus PSU and NEB. Maybe we trade one of the shitty OGs to Leaders:
Indiana (gotta keep State's rival in here)
MSU (the aggies were the last expansion prior to MSU)
Northwestern (gotta have some football tradition!)
GTech (if Central Florida isn't available)
Idaho St. (or whatever other shitty, unrelated program we reel in)
Done. Jim Delaney, you're welcome.
Can we call our Division the Leaders (if we're not going to use directions). "Leaders and Best"
Exactly what I was thinking... except we get MSU, they get Wisconsin. Wiscy will be a better team year in and year out - and that division is pretty weak, especially with a weakened PSU. They need help. AND, we NEED to play MSU every year. Don't separate borthers. One of the cardinal rules of divorce. Keep brothers together.
But really, I actually like this idea a lot.
That probably makes more sense. I guess I was just trying to go back on date of entry into the conference to make the choice between Wisc and MSU. I just hope that the B1G adds a relentlessly shitty program to the mix to make a mockery of this whole mess.
If anyone can explain why Nebraska was a good fit and how those same standards allow for the trio of suckitude - Rutgers/Maryland/GTech - I'm all ears. It's like the standards used change based on the team selected. Nebraska...tradition and program quality. RutgersLandTech...tv sets (though not really, since the east coast doesn't care about football and no one cares about GTech except for Kenny Anderson).
I think your emotions are getting the better of you.
Pod 1 (North): Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa
Pod 2 (South): Nebraska, Northwestern, Illinois, Purdue, Indiana
Pod 3 (East): Penn St, Rutgers, Maryland, Ohio State, Georgia Tech
Then we have a conference playoff! The highest-ranked pod champion gets a bye and plays the winner of the other two pod champs.
EDIT: or West (Nebraska, Minny, Iowa, Wiscy, Illinois), Center (Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State), and East (Ohio, Penn St, Rutgers, MD, GA Tech).
I hope it's true.
You forgot the "said no one ever" at the end.
For purely selfish reasons
I seriously thing this should become the BIG Confernce, with 8/9/10 (1/2 of the number we end up with) of the original Big Ten in one division, and all the newbies (plus we'll give them Purdue, etc) in another. Winners play in the championship game.
At least we still get the Big Ten that way and build more standard rivals outside the Big Ten.
The problem right now is that other division would suck. Maybe we give them Wisconsin, Purdue, Neb, PSU, Rutgers, Maryland GT, ...
I'm as serious as a heart attack (haven't said that in decades - haven't felt the need until now)
So, I actually like this move. Can we steal Vanderbilt? I would like them in the Big 16.
I million times this! Vanderbilt makes a lot of sense across the board, and a weekend roadtrip to Nashville would be amazing!
Delaney would love to have the Nashville/Memphis market, but Vanderbilt is going NOWHERE. It’s all about money and Vandy couldn’t make enough new money to justify it. B1G and SEC are both stable conferences and will make comparable amounts so why would they move.
Well, this wouldn't be the reason, but I'm sure people at Vanderbilt would rather pool academic resources with us and Northwestern than with Mississippi State and Arkansas.
Awesome campus but their football stadium reminds me of Northwestern's.
Fuck it, Well do it live...Fuck it!
Anything that helps us push into the south and get some of those SEC kids and get some speed up here will def help us and our conference. I would take Miami,Virginia or Virginia Tech next.
miami? please tell me you're kidding. i don't want that smoking crater of a program anywhere near our conference.
with pending sanctions and an apathetic fan base.
Do not want.
Can someone explain to me how having a team from a different geographical area in your conference automatically gives you an advantage in recruiting that area? Especially when you're only going to play said team inside that geographical area once a decade or so?
As a bonus, you can explain why it is that you think Hoke needs some extra advantage in recruiting.
On TV so more exposure (how many kids in the south see Michigan play on a regular basis). Ability to promise (assuming you play in the area with any frequency) a game close to home so parents/family/friends can come. Easy to get down there and recruit when you have to go anyway. More relations with local teams/coaches because you know the area better.
That said, this is all worthless when you play there once a decade.
The Big America Conference has a nice ring to it. But knowing Delany as soon as they change it they will add Simon Fraser University in Canada.
University of British Columbia would be the better option - they have some sports programs that already play in the NCAA (though lower divisions). Though the travel to Vancouver would be killer.
Make it stop. Please, just make it stop.
They are getting to the number most people thought they would when they adopted the "B1G" logo. I wonder who the last team is going to be? I vote for one more JTTS with great educational qualifications.
At first I was like, Maryland/Rutgers?
And then I was like, Georgia Tech?
Now I'm like, total ACC domination?