Genuinely Sarcastic
Just in case any of you haven't reached for a gun to put into your mouth from the various postings on the Michigan coaching situation, you might want to pop over the Genuinely Sarcastic and read the latest post. It. Will. Blow. Your. Fucking. Mind.
Here's the link. You can't claim I failed to warn you.
http://genuinelysarcastic.blogspot.com/2010/11/attention-to-detail.html
November 30th, 2010 at 1:28 PM ^
Didn't click on the link. Can't read his blog.
That dude is toxic.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:30 PM ^
But the shittiest part is his laughable assertion that Jim Hardballs recruits less "borderline kids" academically as opposed to RichRod, who loves him some Pahokee Thugz.
Bullshit, dude.
Stanford dealt with an epic facelift in their 2010 class, constantly dealing with recruits who committed and were later decommitted to the fact that Harbaugh - in a noble gesture, just like Rodriguez with Dorsey, Witty, and others - fought for their clearance into the university. But it was not to be. Which is cool, but don't try knocking down Richrod for something Jimmy Hardballs is clearly guilty off.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:44 PM ^
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November 30th, 2010 at 1:45 PM ^
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November 30th, 2010 at 1:42 PM ^
Pahokee Thugs? Vincent Smith and Martavious Odoms seem like selfless, model players. I don't know about Hawthorne, but he hasnt gotten into any trouble. Where would he get that shit?
November 30th, 2010 at 1:47 PM ^
I labeled them as Pahokee Thugz to get the point across, considering a lot M fans were iffy about letting any 18 year olds with dreadlocks and gold teeth through the doors of Schembechler Hall....ignoring what clearly upstanding young men guys like Odoms, Hawthorne and Smith are.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:48 PM ^
Sarcasm!
November 30th, 2010 at 2:19 PM ^
I didn't read the article; without reading the entire article, it is impossible to determine whether that langauge was in the blog or not.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:49 PM ^
One of the most nonsensical assertions in that article is that Harbaugh at Stanford is recruiting a team full of Rhodes Scholars. If you look at any comprehensive study of the academic records of the recruits of the so-called academically exclusive D1 schools , such as Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, or Vanderbilt, you will find that there is only a razor-thin difference in grades and tests scores versus those schools which will take more chances. The author makes it sound as if Stanford had a roster full of valedictorians and National Merit Scholars, when the reality is more likely that their recruits have a slightly-higher average SAT or ACT score than those of a school such as UM, and they take one or two fewer academic reaches per class.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:14 PM ^
Miami, under Randy Shannon, currently has the highest APR. Miami.
November 30th, 2010 at 3:00 PM ^
along with derogatory language has absolutely no credibility or intelligence!
RR is the putz and needs to go. He has never and will never understand the importance of Michigan football.
And, if I ever hear him say we need to execute better again I will personally hunt him down and ........
November 30th, 2010 at 3:25 PM ^
you sir =
November 30th, 2010 at 6:37 PM ^
I fucking ACED those MEAP tests back in the day, compadre!
November 30th, 2010 at 1:30 PM ^
Kevin Koger would like to have a word with TOB...
November 30th, 2010 at 1:34 PM ^
filled with baseless assumptions. DeBord would lead Michigan to a 8-4/7-5 record in 2008? This makes me laugh and my head blow out apart at the same time. Didn't they see zone left, zone left and incompletion offense? He squandered a talented offense to a vastly medicore offense. He had the #1 overall pick in Jake Long, a NFL QB in Chad Henne, 2 All-American caliber WRs in Manningham and Arrington and an all-time rushing leader in Mike Hart. I mean the fact that the offense is medicore does not sit well with me. If DeBord is the coach, his record would be 2-11 or something like that with worse talent on offense. DeBord was the one who ran CMU program into the ground which is no easy feat.
November 30th, 2010 at 3:05 PM ^
as it was about how RR squandered the talent he had and drove the rest away. I cannot understand how anyone can defend him based on his pathetic record.
The supposed traditions he has brought back are basically loud music and advertisements during games. He uses the piped in music to help distract everyone from the below average product he's putting on the field.
November 30th, 2010 at 3:26 PM ^
/sarcasm
November 30th, 2010 at 1:46 PM ^
I am with some other posters in being highly disturbed at the image of RR as denigrating Lloyd Carr's legacy around the athletic department.
If that image is true, both RR and the program are in a lot deeper doodoo than I thought, and also my ownsupport for RR just dropped to rock bottom pending substantiation.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:55 PM ^
While I have no information on whether or not this actually happened, I don't think the original poster does either. That's all speculation and it's really not something to get worked up about.
November 30th, 2010 at 3:10 PM ^
The facts are what they are. No attention to detail is more than apparent. Too many fumbles, a non-existent kicking game and a defense that is at the bottom of the heap.
Our recruiting has suffered immensely under RR, while JH has completely renovated Stanford's. Their SOS is at the top of the heap and they shut out 3 opponents this year.
It seems that most of you on this site are either in denial, lack any real knowledge about football or care very little for this once great program.
November 30th, 2010 at 3:24 PM ^
You are totally missing the point. My post that you responded to speaks only to the "Rich Rod hates Lloyd and made fun of his legacy OMG" idea.
I want to see Rodriguez back. However, I realize that there are legitimate critiscism of Rich Rodriguez and his performance at Michigan. "He doesn't understand our traditions and is a meany-jerk-face" is not one of them. That's just noise around the real issue.
November 30th, 2010 at 3:26 PM ^
Oh I get it, let's attack anyone who disagrees with me. It's fine to disagree and to have opinions about the program, but don't throw out the "lack any real knowledge about football or care very little for this once great program." Just makes you look like an 
November 30th, 2010 at 4:19 PM ^
Oh I get it, let's attack anyone who disagrees with me.
You fucking lose the internet you dumbshit. You have got to be kidding me with that piece of shit sentence. Every RR supporter on here does that exact thing. Go fuck yourself.
November 30th, 2010 at 4:40 PM ^
everyone who's against RR claims they're just more enlightened or a better fan. they cite these facts and note anyone who is ok with RR to be 'complacent,' not enough of a fan or just stupid/unknowing of the 'facts.' your little rant was the epitome of senseless drivel.
November 30th, 2010 at 5:34 PM ^
I haven't seen many posts stating that an anti RR proponent is more enlightened than a pro one except for the so called "AssHat" above. Since everyone has to say, "I am pro RR" to start off their posts I guess I will say that I am pro Harbaugh now.
I don't disagree with people who are pro RR because there are a lot of things that I agree with. If he is to be retained for 2011 it won't deter me from rooting for the team or him. The reason is because I am pro Michigan. However, I am pro Harbaugh because that is how I feel about the situation and think he might be able to fix things quicker than RR. That is just my opinion.
I guess I am one of the few who thinks that way because this is more volatile than Republican V Democrat. Anyone who disagrees is negged and given a verbal lashing. The thing is is that there are strong cases on both sides and no one group is more right than the other.
November 30th, 2010 at 5:44 PM ^
i confused the OP (Belle something or other) with you. the 'little rant' i was referring to was theirs. while you did get aggressive, i do want to note my anger was towards that commenter (who i mistook for you) and that the last sentence wasn't entirely towards you. you probably didn't need to go down the profanity anger rabbit hole but meh, i thought i'd clear that up.
November 30th, 2010 at 3:06 PM ^
This is the part that disturbs me big time (IF true):
Further... many insiders will tell you that Rich was like a bull in a china shop within the walls of Schembechler Hall. While he said the right things publicly, inside he routinely disparaged what he had been left by Lloyd and criticized Lloyd's program, apparently too dense to realize that most of the people still involved with the program were former colleagues and admirers of Carr. He established a tone from the start that all but invited the skeptics to actively undermine him, and he did little to earn the respect that he very much needed from Lloyd Carr. In short: don't portray Rich as merely a victim of a stodgy blueblood establishment. There's plenty of blame to go around for why this marriage didn't work out, and that includes Rich. He had his own "faction".
Now, the people I know around the program seem to like Rich. But then, they've always acknowledged a tension there too (For the Rich, Lloyd, Martin lunch "well, that must have been fun"). So it's not beyond the realm. But if this is anyway true, this would turn me against Rich far more than EVERYTHING else that's been done or said. Even if he was actually winning. (Which he's not, so it would add stupid to mean spirited).
November 30th, 2010 at 4:34 PM ^
I thought this was pretty much common knowledge. Posters here and elsewhere have alluded to it before. I definitely think that RR's biggest mistake was to treat this job like he was taking over for a fired coach, instead of a successful coach who retired voluntarily.
November 30th, 2010 at 5:04 PM ^
I don't know why this was negged. This is essentially the crux of the issue why there are warring factions and the essence of the "fit" argument. Our football program had an amazingly consistent run of success over the previous 40 years. While most will agree that we were overdue for some change, the people actually left in these situations will have a hard time reacting to a change, much less a full blown nuke of the program, which is essentially what happened when RR took over and cleaned house.
November 30th, 2010 at 9:35 PM ^
But good leaders handle it. Bo nukes the program too. But he never said a bad word about Bump, or our subpar facilities. He made it work, made changes, but embraced the situations and the past. He didn't trash them. You have to adjust to the new guy, sure. But if the new guy doesn't try to bring everyone together, he's a poor leader.
November 30th, 2010 at 9:31 PM ^
His occasional allusions to not bring left with much in response to questions, and marrying a widow and telling the family he sucks in his old house. There's been talk, but if it actually went this far, it's beyond stupid and classless, and frankly would make me of the opinion that the door COULD hit him on the way out. But I don't know this to be the case. Do you have anything to back up the common knowledge? I have open ears.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:50 PM ^
However, the points that he makes about what Harbaugh has done over his short coaching career is pretty impressive.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:58 PM ^
Generally Shitty post.
TOB would have been much better served writing a more realistic and less sensational alternative reality rather than copy and pasting Jizzard's.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:08 PM ^
I'd be willing to bet everything I have that the author of that has never even met those kids! Let alone have any clue as to how hard they may or may not work in the classroom. I don't know those kids, so I'm not even going to speculate. PURE BULLSHIT THING TO SAY! The only thing I do know is that Jake Ryan went to one of the most prestigious academic private high schools in Ohio (Cleveland St. Ignatius).
November 30th, 2010 at 2:08 PM ^
The day I copy and paste something and make it a stand alone post, is the day the JCB closes its doors.
The day I only post after a loss is the day the JCB closes its doors
I hope nobody disagrees with The Other Brian. I am 0-for-2 in the past in getting comments approved there on posts I disagreed with. I find him to be an immature blogger with a bizarre persecution complex.
Now that I've said that, I really hope he doesnt email Brian Cook to complain about a big, nasty WLA-type critiquing him.......although I would book good money on the fact that said email has already been sent in the past.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:17 PM ^
He does seem to be heavily filtering the comments on the site.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:20 PM ^
I disagreed with him. We'll see if my comment gets approved...
November 30th, 2010 at 4:23 PM ^
I hope it does.
Its been months since I tried leaving a comment. He did a post passing off so many conspiracy theories as far as who from the old staff, head coach included, was fawking with RR, so I merely asked if he had any real proof or just parroting shit he read from various scout and rivals message boards. Without proof, you're dangerously close to libel. Didnt get approved.
Then after the MSU loss in hoops last March he let his anger emo rip again, i wrote he lacked imagination if he thinks that team cant get better and detailed how JB's recruiting efforts are indeed improving the program, albeit real slowly. No approval.
Havent tried since. Really havent been reading him since. I really dont care what he wrote in this piece, or whoever wrote it. Dont care that he's at the fire rich table. What ticks me off is he himself hasnt written a post in almost two months. And, this is how he returns. At least have the decency to write something yourself. Like it's been said, he gets a lot of profile from hanging around here. His response to blogging this season has been lame
Touch The Banner should replace GS on the side of MGo, IMHE. You didnt stop posting because you were pissed at a loss. I dont stop posting at the JCB because games dont go my way. I dont feel he's representing us bloggers very well, thats all.
November 30th, 2010 at 4:32 PM ^
Yeah, I remember that post. It was...interesting.
Thanks for the compliment.
November 30th, 2010 at 5:59 PM ^
If we're talking about adding links, can we add BWS along with TTB? I liked reading the run charts from GS but this year the posting has been very scarce and not as much effort put into it. BWS and TTB have been much more consistent and had some well researched pieces in there.
November 30th, 2010 at 6:04 PM ^
i don't think the side blogs are any sort of totem of excellence but, instead, just blogs that are regularly updated. i don't think Brian would have any problem going through them. hell, he had me update them before the season and it was basically just seeing who had updated in recent months and that's about it
November 30th, 2010 at 2:13 PM ^
The main point of the article is that Debord would have been ripped to shreds by the fan base for going 7-5 or 8-4 over this span, while Rich Rodriguez needed 3 years to get there, and gets a pass while doing so (All in reference to the board community, I'm assuming). Since most of the people who take offense to this article (Rich Rodriguez supporters) claim that the 'major landscape shift' in the scheme caused the rocky start, then it shouldn't be unreasonable to you to think that Debord would have went 6-6 or 7-5 with that roster. I think it's a pretty relevant point to any coaching discussions we have in the present situation.
November 30th, 2010 at 9:14 PM ^
......hired as coach and went 8-4, 7-5 over 2008-09, the fanbase would have been ticked, and rightly so. Part of the reason fans have become so displaced over the past decade has been the almost consistent way of Carr in having his teams underperform. Some of those years we should have been a one-loss team, yet we have lost to teams we definitely should have beaten.
The fanbase was clamoring for someone new(whether he was a previous UM player/coach or not), and we got what we asked for. Unfortunately, that also came with growing pains not seen at UM for decades upon decades, and now the part of the fanbase that was initially only "mildly" supporting RR is up in arms claiming this never should have happened. And what's more, they now want and expect a change to be made prior to realizing the full potential of an RR coached team.
November 30th, 2010 at 9:32 PM ^
Yes they would have been ticked, that's the point of the article. I fail to see any reason why we had to fall so far back to realize this imminent success everyone talks about, the game of football did not change when Rich Rod came in. This team has commited more fundamental flaws over the past three years than any other team I've seen, upper classmen and lower classmen alike, and that's why we've been getting killed in the Big Ten. How that indicates a successful future is beyond me.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:28 PM ^
Blog lost me months ago with the allegation that "Rodriguez has been criminally negligent of the defense" kvetch moan rant rave.
Chugging industrial strength horse laxative is more enjoyable.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:34 PM ^
I find the argument unconvincing. The author started to lose me when he claimed that the 2008 defense should have been the best in the big ten. He finished the job when he claimed that RR's
job was to do the best he could with MICHIGAN - it was bigger than he was. And he knew it. Rich doesn't seem to understand that quite so well.
I'm not sure exactly what that means to be quite honest. It sounds like another form of "THIS IS MICHIGAN. UNACCEPTABLE", which is all this author is saying in very very longhand.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:40 PM ^
Genuinely Sarcastic can write some good stuff and it makes me feel a little better that he didnt actually write this post but ugh, I would feel dirty to ally myself with a post like that.
Whats funny is that the OP uses an evaluation of Stanford under Harbaugh as its main argument for Harbaugh bringing succes to Michigan. He points out that in year 3 Harbaugh lead Stanford to its first bowl since 2001, a small bowl but a bowl. Now in year 4 Stanford is competing for a BCS bowl. To me this seems an awful lot like a strong argument for Rodriguez rather than for Harbaugh.
This is what I had suspected after the 2008 season. I felt 3 years ago that 2011 was going to be the year that Michigan really started to compete and I still stick by that assumption. I think what Harbaugh did at Stanford is a great analog to Rich Rod and Michigan. Either way, this articel was not badly written but was the biggest crock of shit I have read so far on the subject.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:50 PM ^
Right. I know THIS IS MICHIGAN and everything, but the fact remains in that first year, we were an awful football team. How much of this is RR's fault? Some.
Now we are a mediocre football team and that's surprising to a lot of people around here. Could we be better? Sure, but only because we've overachieved offensively. So some of that is on RR both ways.
The fact is, however, we're on a pace to be very very good for a very very long time. The irony here is that many people who want a change accuse Rich of throwing out the baby with the bathwater when that's exactly what they're proposing we do now.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:59 PM ^
I usually like his thoughts, but he has gone off the deep end. Trying to sell us on Debord getting to 8 wins with Threet and 2 offensive lineman when we could barely do that with Henne Hart and Manningham is stupid.
His whole rehashing of the past is silly as well. I don't care if RR won 6 games in 08 or 3 in 08. All I care about is if he can win me 12 in 2011. Where are we headed not what did we screw up in the past.
So he had attention to detail at WV when he beat teams like Georgia and Oklahoma, but when he got to Michigan he gave up on those sill detail things because there wasn't much attention who cares? Fail.
November 30th, 2010 at 3:20 PM ^
that this blog was better than most out there. However, it seems that those who frequent this site are of the opinion that RR should stay which is inconceivable.
He has shown us absolutely nothing. We have racked up thousands of yards of offense but have not won anything. Why anyone would equate that to a better season in 2011 is beyond me. Perhaps the consensus is that another year of experience will make the difference. I don't think so and neither should you.