this week in unintentionally grim-sounding recruiting headlines
Gary Andersen (previously of Utah St) to coach Wisconsin
I kinda like it but whoa guyz tradition is only so good I mean I can has blue and maize but why am I better than rival fans? I don't know man Alabama Norte dame night games whoah Michigan state we'we uniforms but hey kidz like me so if it helps gets us back in the title race cool beans.
This is I think where the Scotch is affecting you. Cheers!
I love Scotch. Scotch, Scotch, Scotch. Here it goes down. Down to my belly.
I think you should stop hanging out with Hagerup so much
I like the hire for two reasons:
1. He did a great job at Utah State and,
2. I won't have to change my name to Plays With Squirrels and renounce society.
They seem to be really excited about this. I don't know much about him, but I'm surprised to see just how excited they are.
I get that. But based on the (very limited) comments I've heard, they sounded SHOCKED he went to Madison. Like, "I can't believe we got him!" sort of comments.
well, his turn around job at Utah State was on par with Hoke's at SDSU
and Utah State almost beat them at home this season
and they were resigned to hiring Dave Clawson just hours ago
That kind of plays into my point. While Wisconsin isn't historically Michigan, the comparison of coaches is similar: a lot of people around these parts weren't ecstatic about the hire including our fearless leader. The overwhelming sentiment on their behalf is unabated joy.
you have to consider their coaching search
literally this afternoon the rumor mill was indicating that they were going to hire one of two mediocre MAC coaches or the DC of the 31st ranked defense in the NFL. Instead, they hired a guy who somehow won 11 games at a school with a historical .329 winning percentage, almost beat them at home this season and coordinated a defense that beat Saban's Alabama in a BCS bowl.
And as a Michigan fan who loved the Hoke hire, I can't really sympathize
Sorry if I'm wrong, not trying to be a dick.
Anyway, I giggled when reading some of you saw that Wiscy fans were ecstatic, but the reason I giggled was that I thought they were probably happy to get any damn coach at this point.
They were probably feeling like we were during our search in 2007. I personally wish him luck because I hope he keeps them as a contender in case stupid Delaney and his divisions tinkering or untinkering, keeps us and Ohio separate.
We need somebody to deal with them in the next few years till PSU recovers, however effing long that will take.
On a side note, If O'Brien can somehow pull miracles and keeps them looking like contenders, to no avail for 3 more years, it would be pretty damn impressive and he would get a lot of wooers from college and pro besides being able to beat Ohio or give them a tough game(s).
Should be a very interesting next few years, especially with us getting back to contender status, as it should be fergodsakes!
The guy did:
1) Win Utah State's first outright conference title since 1946
2) Win Utah State's second bowl ever.
Obviously "who knows" should be the default reaction to most hires, but Andersen's a good coach.
Remember Hoke was below .500 when he came to UM. A bad record or "average" record does not mean that is how that coach is.
...as a good coach or not, at least by Michigan standards, has yet to be determined.
Hoke hasn't had a "successful" season yet by his own defined standard.
That said, the defense certainly has returned from the walking dead. Now we need to see if we can arrive at a championship caliber offense.
I just listened to the "Solid Verbal Podcast" because a friend recommended it (I thought it was okay), and they were singing his praises.
Love TSV. Give it a few listens--those guys really know their stuff.
Yeah, I think he's a very good coach but I also want to know how well he would have done without Kerwynn Williams. Either way, I'm glad to see another decent coach in the B1G.
When do all the assistants quit?
He'll be good for them
RR would be good for us?
You said the R word!
To be fair, he is a spread coach. I never thought I would see the day where Wisconsin would run the spread offense...assuming he takes his system with him....
He's a defensive guy. I'm not sure he's wed to any offensive system.
Why would you not want Wisconsin to get a good coach? They are probably the only team standing between OSU and a guaranteed annual spot in the B1G championship game for the forseeable future.
Sorry if this sounds douchey but I don't really wish luck for them. I feel like they have a dirty program but everyone feels obligated to like them or something.
Their ex-coach was a douchey meat head, but I wouldn't go as far as to call them a dirty program.
Maybe it is the Dewar's talking but after seeing one of their players try to tear one of our guys' knee ligament and have nothing happen to him, and that was not an isolated incident, but to have that in your program and nothing be done about it, and besides the "meathead" coach is still a representation of the program and the values they promote. That's all I got.
penn st? says who? And i will go on the record of saying indiana will be a tuff team to beat in the near future
I will go on record saying that Indiana will be the Detroit Lions. Always on the verge, looks good on paper, but never quite gets it together.
Agreed. Even if, by some miracle, Kevin Wilson actually gets Indiana "over the hump" and transforms them into a competent squad he will be gone in a heartbeat to a better program.
His picture hope they have good dentist at UW
I guess the B1G money hasnt kicked in yet. Sorry but Wisconsin filling their vacancy by getting the coach of Utah State is another example of our conference going on the cheap when it comes to HCs. And until we spend some of the B1G network cash on big time coaches we can expect to stay second fiddle or worse to the SEC.
Big time coaches like Gus Malzahn?
LOOK AT ALL THOSE GREAT ESS EEE SEE HIRES
2 Arkansas State coaches
the offensive coordinator of Maryland
the defensive coordinator of Texas
the defensive coordinator of Florida State
the offensive coordinator of Florida
the offensive coordinator of Florida State
Add in Pinkel (from Toledo) and you get 9 out of 14 coaches who were either hired from mid majors or from coordinator positions. BOY THEY REALLY DO IT UP IN THE ESS EEE SEE
Arkansas hiring a coach who has just won 3 straight Big Ten titles. Tennessee hiring a coach who had a fairly successful run at Cincy. Florida hiring one of the 'hot' coordinators who was next in line to be the head coach at Texas. Mississippi St hiring one of the 'hot' coordinators away from Urban Meyer at Florida. South Carolina hiring a coach who had already won a NC in college. Alabama hiring a coach who had already had a successful run in the Big Ten at MSU and in the SEC at LSU. Georgia hiring one of the 'hot' coordinators away from Florida St. LSU hiring a guy who had been successful in the Big Ten and then a guy who had been successful in the Big 12.
The SEC mainly hires coaches who have either been successful head coaches at BCS schools or coordinators from some of the top programs in the country. The Big Ten seems like they mainly hiring coaches from mid-major programs.
I guess its a do you prefer people with previous head coaching experience or not argument, clearly the sec has had it working for them. However Anderson was the dc at utah when they beat bama in the sugar bowl in 08, his team has won 15 of 18 and the 3 losses have come by a combined 6 points, he is only 48, and he just turned down the colorado and cal coaching jobs a few weeks ago. This counts as a good hire.
We won't know whether it's a good hire for 3-4 years.
We won't know for a few years the quality of the hire, but we can at least give it an initial good grade
And OSU hired a guy who won 2 national titles in 3 years. The Big East is pretty much a mid major at this point and I don't think there is a consensus that Jones is an impressive coaching hire given that he followed in Kelly's footsteps. He was Tennessee's 5th choice at the highest. Many successful head coaches in non-BCS conferences were hot coordinators just a few years prior. Also, I wouldn't use Mullen(a guy who said he publicly said he would take the PSU job and was turned down) and Richt as examples of all-star coaches.
We hired a coach who won multiple BCS conference titles and he flamed out spectacularly
Ohio hired a coach from an FCS school and won a national title
there are no absolutes and anyone who pretends that the best resume wins championships is deluding themselves.
I wouldn't necessarily say either is an all-star coach. However, Richt has the highest career winning percentage of any head coach at Georgia who has been there more than one year. If they win their bowl game, he'll have 6 top ten rankings in 12 years.
I understand what you're saying, and I don't even really disagree, but my understanding is that both Purdue and Wisconsin are paying about $2 million a year for their new coaches, and I'm sure there are performance raises in place. Obviously, this isn't the top of the top in pay, but in any job, you won't get paid the most until you prove your value and ability. Also, it is super rare that any coach of a high major program would leave for the same job elsewhere. Most of the time, it's a lateral move. For example, Jim Harbaugh not leaving Stanford to come here. Why do it? The pay isn't much different usually, and there's the awkward transition and no guarantee of success elswhere. At least if you get a head coach that has had success in a lower-tier program, you know they can manage a whole team, as opposed to former coordinators, who might only focus on one thing and not really even do that well. *cough* Bo Pelini *cough*
People who get paid to write should:
"After a little rumor mill back-and-forth, all indicates are Wisconsin will tab Utah State's head coach as their own."
I've got your indicates right here!