Devin is the man!! (and a prophet)
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Devin is the man!! (and a prophet)
Ohio is so overconfident every year I don't think they can even use bulletin board material. They just laugh statements like this off and continue to underestimate everyone they play. Hence why they seem to get in at least one or two dogfights with the Cals of the world every single year.
Our QB just guaranteed a win over the strongest team in the Big Ten and our toughest rival, and OSU is the overconfident one?
After the 2014 schedules was released, there was talk from Ohio fans about a 42-0 start under Meyer. Yes, they are the ones who are over confident.
Well we should've won last year. That first half in their stadium was awesome.
Why "should" you have one last year? Teams who "should have won" manage more than two first down in 30 minutes.
Well. Despite that we had a chance at the end of the game. Shoulda woulda coulda, but I mean we were competitive. Very winnable game. But tip of the cap, enjoy it.. November can't come soon enough.
Wait, so you are saying that an I-formation draw with Vincent Smith on 3rd and long won't work? (/s) We were our own enemy just as much as Ohio's defensive adjustments, when we took out the DG and Denard in at the same time offensive package.
I mean yes, that was an abysmal second half from us, and not one worthy of victory.
On the other hand, I don't really feel like if your team flagrantly lies, cheats, and covers it up for over a decade that you're qualified to go around judging what 'should' or 'should not' have happened.
I has one. Maybe two. Allright, three.
No, we should not have won that game. When you can't cross mid-field for a whole half, you probably don't deserve to win, no matter how well your defense played to try and make up for it.
We certainly could have won that game, but we definitely didn't deserve to.
What Freddie said. Also, you can't call a team the strongest before the season even starts. That's the beauty of college sports. There's turnover every year. You can base it to some degree on last year, and they have more claim to the #1 power ranking than anyone, but everyone and their mom knows the 12-0 season they had doesn't even put them in the vicinity of unbeatable. If Bama can get beat last year you can bet your ass Ohio can be beat this year. Third point is neither here nor there, but it is possible for two teams to be overconfident.
Call me crazy, but I don't think Ohio is the strongest team in the B1G this year.
He's supposed to concede that OSU is the greatest thing since sliced bread and guarantee that we will play hard.....He said what he is supposed to say, and what he damn well ought to be thinking and saying in June! Go Blue!
What was the greatest thing before sliced bread?
The Cals of the world.
And the Purdues, and the OHIOs, and the list goes on...
arggg! poster above beat me to the punch....commence MgoHumiliation
Jim Harbaugh huh? Nice.
You can get a good look at a T bone by sticking your head up a bulls ass, but wouldn't you rather take the butchers word for it?
Does this apply logically?
a few whiskey sours. . .
I like the bravado but talk is cheap. That being said: Beat Ohio.
I love his confidence, and from a team leader like your QB that can be a great source of influence on the rest of the team. But, it really means nothing unless you back it up with a win. Nonetheless I like the fact that he's confident. I get this feeling he is going to have an incredible year and really hope he stays healthy.
Yeah... my spelling is off but your face sucks.
Great, but did he guarensheed it is the question?
DG don't lie!
But he said Ohio State!!! Gah! Hoke losing control of the program!
After Harbaugh's famous guarantee, didn't Schembechler say something like "Jim went and ran his mouth, so now all we can do is go out there and prove him right?"
Angelique wrote of this in her "100 Things" book as well.
Michigan had just sustained its first loss of the 1986 season the week before against Minnesota, prompting quarterback Jim Harbaugh to say, "I guarantee we will beat Ohio State and go to Pasadena." Harbaugh expected Schembechler to be extremely angry. "The way our leader, Bo Schembechler, handled it was genius," said Harbaugh, now Stanford's head coach. "He just came into the team meeting and I'm kind of expecting to get an earful. He said, 'Well, at least I know our quarterback thinks we can win. Rally around him. Let's go to Columbus and beat the Buckeyes." And they did, 26-24, to earn a berth in the Rose Bowl.
Local newspaper-still Booth affiliate of course- ran article where Bo stated, "I really don't like my qbs making predictions like that, but I guess it's up to us as a team now to make sure we do everything we can to make sure he's not proven a liar." Quite a man, that one.
Yeah the beat us last year at home after Borges went all small ball on them. Devin with have double digit starts by the next game and I think we win by 10. The talent gap is closed from the end of the Carr era and Rich Rod's as well. Besides their Dline unit there isnt one unit that they own us in.
Didn't that Dline lose some major contributors last year?
Departed Players from the 2012 Defensive Line
Other notable departures on Defense
3 phenylpropenal?? WTF is that (it's been a few years)??
Zach Boren was the only LB who could tackle. Ohio's secondary should be good but the rest of their defense will be a huge question mark until Michigan.
They lost Hankins and Simon.
Think their LBs are going to be pretty damn good. Grant and Shazier should both be very good.. and their CB own us.
Roby is a NFL first rounder.
The same Grant that couldn't beat out a converted FB to keep his starting job even though he had been on campus for two years playing said position he couldn't win?
has shazier ever finished a season uninjured? I agree 100% on Grant their LB corp has to prove they learned how to tackle in the off season for me to say they are good.
The gap really wasn't all that big during those years once you account for all the contributions by players who should have been ineligible (Clarett, Pryor, Katzenmoyer, etc.), excepting '08 because obviously. Had they not had those guys, M would have broken Tressel's streak at least once.
It's one thing to guarantee a win months before and a whole different ballgame to make a guarantee the week of the game. This is nothing.
Doesn't matter how old you are because even in you weren't born by 1968, you know Ohio hugh a half a hundred on us that season and did so by going for two that led to Woody's famous quote when questioned about why he went for two. His response, of course, "Because I couldn't go for three." ^ The entire season, and I mean beginning in the summer he had the scout team members all wear 50 as their uniform numbers. He didn't start it the week before The Game. In a way, this is bigger. The quote is already on their bulletin board and they'll be looking at it until that last Saturday in November. This is something, far bigger than Hart's quote in regard to MSU and equally as inflammatory as Harbaugh's a week before re: ohio.
No comment on most of your post, but to say it's bigger than Hart's quote isn't really saying much. You can't say that MSU won because they were extra ramped up from the bulletin board material. They won because we sucked after that season.
to be up for that game, they will have lost before they hit the field. Regardless, I love the statement. As some coach once said, "Rally around him".
to win the Big Ten championship, but I do think we beat ohio (probably ruining their perfect season)- we shall surprise many this season
To come to Ann Arbor undefeated as the No.1 or No.2 team in the country. We may only be ranked 15 or so with 2 losses (though I'm hoping we will be undefeated). I know OSU will be a big fraud coming in undefeated and I can't wait for Michigan to expose them in front of a national television audience!
Yeah. also, maybe this sounds like nit-picking but Gardner did not 'guarantee' a win. He predicted one.
Not sure what it even means when an athelete guarantees a win, because it expresses a certainty that one can not possibly have. It's not really something you can promise. I like Gardner's phrasing "this is a team that will win...against Ohio State" much better than Harbaugh's "I guarantee you we'll beat Ohio State" -- it expresses confidence without overconfidence.
Yeah zero problem with what he said here. He didn't go out of his way to demean OSU, but merely is broadcasting confidnece in his own squad. Definitely what I want to hear from a team leader. Now the team just has to back it up on the field.
Jim Harbaugh Redux? A bit too early now... Probably Devin saw the progress of the interior O-Line and he is confident that we could generate good a run game?
And I discovered that I could start new topics now. Yay! (Overjoyous & ecstatic & spinning)
I'm glad he said this. Every player on this team has to believe and expect great things to happen if they're going to.
I remember Bo being asked after the game what he thought of his QB "guarenteeing" a win over Ohio State and the response I recall was something to the effect of him liking it a hell of a lot better than if he "guaranteed" a loss!
But I really liked Jim's guarantee! He delivered with a win in the horseshoe! Too bad we blew it against Gophers at home that year!
Jamie Morris is who really delivered it.
Edit: Found the game.
Couldn't think of any better way to end Hoke's third consecutive year without a loss at the Big House
This is the first time a player guaranteeing a victory over an opponent has happened so many months before the actual game, to my knowledge. Jim Harbaugh guaranteeing a win over OSU and Mike Hart guaranteeing a win over Notre Dame happened the week before.
Whatever. As long as it ends with the same result, that's all that matters.
We're with you Devin!
Count this as talking smack. This is having confidence. He didn't cross any line
Trust your quarterback and he will lead you to victory. Go Devin!
Reading these buckeye blogs it's amazing how confident they are that they will beat us. I mean they beat us by 5 points in the shoe and now they have to go to the Big House.
The final score was much closer than it could/ should have been. Denard had that fluke td run late in the 1st half and OSU flubbed on numerous Red Zone opportunities in the 2nd half.
Michigan could have won that game if Borges did not go all conservative. The talent gap has been decreasing and is very narrow now! Hoke must win these home games against OSU! And I'm glad Gardner has put the pressure on Hoke. I'm sure Hoke has this as the most important game in his coaching career! If he loses a close game at home, I will give him some slack. If he loses in 2014 and 2015...then Hoke will have to answer the critics.
I agree the talent gap is much smaller now and this year's game should definitely be closer, especially since it's a home game for you guys. I just don't see how some people pretend that UM should have won. Yeah the score was deceptively close, but even with Borges' conservative calls--many which were called into question due to hindsight--OSU still left a lot of points on the table on offense and gave up some fluke plays on defense.
May be it is my browser, Firefox?
Well, the last Michigan QB who guaranteed a win over OSU followed through. Who's to say we won't go 2-2?
Besides the mongrel horde living in Columbus, that is.
Well, the guarantee is fine, but I prefer to beat them in the conference title game. If that means losing in Ann Arbor, I welcome that.
Smash that school on Olentangy River Rd. Make them cower behind their false idols.
Tragic hero or false idol? It won't matter.
I am just hoping that Devin Gardner is healthy for 12 (or 13, or 14) games next year. And that we don't venture too far into the QB depth chart.
There is a subtle difference between "guaranteeing" a win and "predicting" a win. Gardner did the latter. Of course, that doesn't mean that the Buckeyes won't blow this way out of proportion to try and rally the troops.
Good. Forget that bulletin board material stuff, I want my QB to be confident in his team and their ability to beat their rivals.
Calling this a "guarantee" might be a little more than it is. I like his confidence, though.