Peppers at 10, which seems low.
Gameday Prediction Thread
Early blunder by SC gets us going, Lewan neutralizes Clowney for all but one play and Roundtree continues his late year rise.
28-14 Carolina.....sorry I have zero trust in Borges to come up with something innovative with Devin/Denard, I see a full replay of the 2nd half against Ohio today.
I'm about 10 minutes from leaving to head over to the stadium. Weather is perfect and at least where I'm staying the USC fans outnumber is about 5-1.
I'm saying 27-17 Michigan cause Denard runs wild in his farewell game and (god willing) we don't turn the ball over.
I'm heading in. Go fucking BLUE!
well said. Have fun today.
I don't think we will win, but I think we can; for me it comes down to the offenses ability to score touchdowns. I think the first team to 24 wins this game and the game could turn on a special teams play (lets hope its our return for a touchdown).
If I had to bet my first born I would say USC (NTUSC) 27 Michigan 23
If I had nothign to lose i would say Michigan 31 USC(NTUSC) 10
like Is said, have fun today!
Dunno where you're at, but it seems like everyone I've gone, we've been outnumbered by a lot of SC fans. Hopefully all the UM people aren't staying around Tampa or something
What could there possibly be here to downvote, and in what way could this be off-topic? Happy New Year!
For some reason I have a good feeling about this game. Michigan wins 21-13, Roundtree has a big game.
ps-We have not won back to back bowl games since 2000/2001 Orange-Citrus bowl.
Gamecocks. No faith that Borges will try to utilize his weapons in an effective, unpredictable way.
Because of Iowa, we know that he can. But why, on God's green earth, won't he, sometimes? Was the Notre Dame game his undoing?
Feel comfortable with us playing SEC opponents for another couple years. I just don't think we are good enough up front yet. Call me a troll....I pray I am wrong, I want to beat the SEC soooooo bad..... Go Blue, prove me as an idiot.....
South Carolina 31
I know that's kind of a trite thing to say, but for some reason, I think it's actually going to have more of an impact on today's game than usual. We win an ugly, close game that comes down to making a big stop late in the fourth.
Michigan - 20
USC - 17
The Old Ball coach: 21
60% chance these will be the top threads tonight:
1. Fire Borges now or after signing day?
2. Gruden to ND, Kelly to SF, Harbaugh to UM?
3. Why did Carr veto Miles/Tenuta?
4. If we kept RR, Robinson 1 or 2 Heismans?
5. Dave Brandon same as Hitler or worse?
After we see Vincent Smith up the middle a few times too often.
Sorry but I've got little confidence in the offensive game plan after seeing the OSU debacle. I hope I'm wrong. Go Blue!
a huge game from funchess. I'm (optimistically) hoping Borges decides to make him a big part of the game plan
That would be awesome! But having a blocking TE in next to Schofield will probably be gameplan. On othe sets we should have a FB blocking this tremendous pass rushing team. Maybe Brandon Moore will show up and give all the extra help we need. Having those blockers obviously limits the amount of recievers on the field.
I also have little confidence in the Offensive Game Plan. Our Offensive coach has lost us atleast 2 games and almost lost the MSU game. Not confident in his schemes or play calling.
20-13, South Carolina.
My official prediction is Michigan 100, Hurricane Ditka -3.
My head says, yes, this will be a repeat of the 2nd half against OSU. My heart says Denard takes things into his own hands. Put them together, we win in overtime 27-21.
I believe South Caralina is a legit top 10 team. Michigan is barely A top 25 team. We only beat two decent teams all year. Our offensive line is very average and that's going to be exploited by a very good Gamecock defensive line. However, I think Deven Gardner will handle the rush and complete some passes against this agressive defense. Look for Michigan to score some points. South Caralina will probably score more than you think. Our secondary makes me nervous. Michigan 34 South Caralina 33. Remember this a bowl game and sometimes the defenses don't show up.
Defenses stand strong as they only allow a few fieldgoals. Then the offenses find a way to work through both defenses. After UM turns the ball over on a costly fumble at a tied 20-20 game, Ryan puts a huge rush on the QB to force a bad throw. We get the ball back with under minute, a few passes to gallon and a screen to #16 puts Gibbons in FG range. He nails it as the clock runs out.
20-17 Michigan. I don't see either teams getting a whole lot going on offense. I think most points will come off of big plays.
The 2nd half offense vs OSU really took the wind out of my sails. If Borges doesn't F this up for the players we have a shot. Unfortunately he probably will. 17 - 6 SC
If Borges implements an a iowa-like game plan, UM 21-18.
If all we get is V. Smith in the power I, it will probably be a 21-7 South Carolina kind of game.
I think we match up well defensively so as long as we hang on to the damn ball on offense we will prevail! Meeechigan Wins 23-20
BORGES, BORGES, BORGES...
I have little or no faith in him using Denard. So I say we lose 21-14.
do with Borgaes - it is still all about the same ineffective offensive line....SC wins 27 - 17 - Really hope I am wrong.
One of the fundamental responsibilities of any coach in any sport is to minimize your weaknesses and take maximum advantage of your strengths. You're certainly right about the nature of our OL, but that's exactly why Borges' game-planning has been so wanting. If your OL has trouble in straight-ahead run blocking and your regular RBs are not particularly shifty or fleet of foot, why in God's name would you keep Denard—the one player who has shown any ability to gain yardage with very few holes—on the bench for a significant part of your main rivalry game? Why would you make such little use of a tight end who is a matchup nightmare for virtually every DB or LB who tries to cover him?
Everyone loved the Borges game plan when it worked against Iowa. The truth is we don't have players in the trenches to beat teams with better talent especially if we have turnovers. Even last year we had problems (Molk and Martin really made a difference) and could have lost to ND and VT without the ball bouncing our way.
Very little faith in Borges. 21-17 Cocks.
Combine for 22 carries and 36 yards. Denard gets 8 carries for 112 yards. Cocks 27, um 16.
Hope I'm reverse jinxing here!
we have played at least three teams that are better than USC and we could have beaten two of those teams.
Who can say if Borges hasn't learned something? We know the players have grown through the trials, maybe today they stand together and smash USC? If nothing else we have a chance...
N. Georgia 24 - Michigan 13
Al Borges bashing is so 2012. Today the game plan will be willy-nilly, with Denard all over the place. I see Denard with rushing, receiving, passing and special teams TDs.
UM 38, SC 24
Denard Robinson becomes the all time career QB rushing yards record holder.
So the Wolverines will send out a QB to make his fifth start, be without their starting RB and feature an OL that has, with one exception, not distinguished itself to line-up against a pretty highly ranked defense...and if they don't win it will be the fault of Borges?
So constantly running Denard up the gut when lined up at QB when everyone knew he wasn't throwing vs OSU was a good idea? Got it.
Why, yes. Yes, it was.
Denard Robinson vs. OSU: 10 carries, 122 yards, 12.2 yards/carry, 1 touchdown
Take out the 67-yard touchdown? Okay.
9 carries, 55 yards, 6.1 yards/carry.
It might not have been imaginative, but it worked very well. But I guess you can ignore the facts if you want.
Needed to rush more on the edge against Ohio, not up the middle.
The numbers suggest that the play calls for Denard were effective. You can't just run outside every time. It seems that people are acting like Borges could have called the same play 25 times and it would have worked every time. A couple plays didn't work for Denard, but 122 yards and 1 touchdown on just 10 carries is pretty darn good, no matter how you slice it.
No it wasn't. After the 1st half everyone knew he was not able to throw the ball. Do you know the 1st half v 2nd half breakdown of his carries from the QB position?
Shit, look at the quotes from OSU players after the game. They were told Denard wasn't passing the ball. When he lines up at QB there's no one else to pass the ball on the field
2ND HALF: 6 yards, -2 yards, 0 yards, 1 yard
So he had 3 carries that didn't work well and then he was reportedly too injured to continue.
The other 7 gained him 121 yards and a touchdown.
I think we get demolished. Something on the order of 35-6. Our offense has struggled to put points on the board against elite defenses since 2008. Without a running game, I just can't see how we put up points against this pass rush. I hope to hell come 4pm I am proven wrong, but as it sits I just don't see how this works out well for us.
but my Maize-colored glasses only see so far.
We are without our primary punter, without one of our most experienced defensive backs (& replaced by a special teams player), without our # 1 RB, our Offensive line has arguably been our weakest position group all year.
We have our primary QB either still slightly injured, or practicing at positions that he hasn't practiced in 4 years, (luckily the back-up QB has all of 5 starts) virtually no competent back-up RB, a suspect OC, an antiquated punt formation and we are essentially playing an away game. Also, as much as I appreciate Hoke, I'll give the In-game coaching edge to Spurrier.
Our D will keep them in it, but just barely.
I'm not saying your points are incorrect, and I predicted a 20-13 win by South Carolina.
BUT South Carolina has its weaknesses, too, including missing their starting running back and a weak offensive line.
Which is one of the reasons I don't see a blowout (plus I didn't want to ramble into a complete pro vs con post). I'll still give them the edge in the backup RB dept.
Our D will hurry, pressure, & hopefully manhandle Shaw; but their dink& dunk passing may still pose a problem.
I guess to me it looks like Michigan is at risk for the "Death from a thousand cuts" scenario. Too many little disadvantages adding up to yards & points.
If Borges somehow does manage to pull his head out of his ass he could do Denard a huge favor featuring him in a RB/Slot role (re: NFL Draft).
we could have made that change at the start if this year and be playing for our 11th win.
I hope to see Denard run back a kick possibly off a fake reverse to raise his NFL stock .
Michigan All The Points, South Carolina The Rest.
If Borges utilizes the Devin/Denard duo and plays much more aggressively and our defense is able to shut down Thompson and Shaw in the pass game, I think we have a great shot of winning today. I also think special teams will end up being an X factor by the end of it all as well. I'm going to stay optimistic and say Michigan, 31-28. Gibbons has another brunette girls moment with 30 seconds left.
Michigan 28-27. B. Gibb,71 yarder as time expires.
I'll send him a cup of my blood.
His new hair cut will give him the extra 35 yards.
Had a dream that Denard returned the opening kickoff for a touchdown.
I'm not confident on Borges to have an effective game plan. That, combined with our suspect offensive line and lack of RB production means our offense is in serious trouble. We will be relying on a solid, turnover generating defense (haven't done much of that this season) and USC offensive mistakes.
Could be a long day for us today if Borges expects his 2nd half Ohio state gameplan to work. That said, I'm open to pleasant surprises.
How can Borges game plan be separated from the fact the OL is suspect, his starting RB is out and his QB will be making his fifth start?
Love it or hate it, the core of Hoke ball is lining up, looking your opponent straight in the eye and defeating him...not tricking him.
Go Blue! Send Denard, Roh, Kovacs and all the seniors out as winners.
Run right up the middle with 180 pound rbs we might have a chance.
on this board will complain about Michigan fans showing up on time
I actually agree with you on this one. I think Borges knows he messed up the Ohio game, and he's not going to make the same mistakes this game. I expect our offense to actually do pretty well.
UM 21 - SC 20
If we pull out all the stops, a la the '08 Capital One Bowl, then victory is ours. If not, well...
Brandon's new bowl jerseys will include a scrolling LED display on the chest which Al Borges will use to inform the Gamecock defense that, yes, this play will indeed be a run.
Jake Ryan declaring for the draft will seem like a real possibility.
Denard scores a magical but ultimately meaningless touchdown.
South Carolina 13 Michigan 7
Good guys- 23
Did anyone see corso's picks? I didn't. I can't stand him.
Did he pick mich or SC?
If he picked SC...did he put a cock on his head?
Sry. I had to. Inappropriate, I know. Haha.
Lee picked SC