Sorry for posting a Brian Kelly to ND thread but I feel obligated to share what I just heard. I go to Central Michigan, and the CMU wrestling coach just told my friend in the school paper that he just got off the phone with B. Kelly and he will be announced ND's head coach tommarow. The wrestling coach and Kelly are good friends from Kellys time at CMU so I thought this was worth sharing.
FWIW: Kelly to ND via CMU source
Generally, these types of posts are greeted with great skepticism, but I believe this one.
here's a picture of a possum
Do you think Brian Kelly would be ok with the wrestling coach (his good friend) going to the press with this before it's official? I'm skeptical.
Did I miss something? Did the wrestling coach go to the press?
edit: Sure did. Not sure how I missed that.
"Did the wrestling coach go to the press?
edit: Sure did. Not sure how I missed that."
Is there some article out there I'm missing?
The OP said, "the wrestling coach told my friend at the school newspaper." The "press" is Central's school paper. Pretty sure that's what Bo meant.
FWIW, I didn't catch it the first time either
It's late. Thanks for catching my mistake.
No problem, glad I could help out
if true, the story wouldn't go to press until tomorrow when it is announced anyway, according to the story. Where's the problem?
I work at said paper (CM Life) and I was told this as well by one of our sports reporters.
the idea of CM Life breaking a story beyond the fact that the janitor was actually Old Man Jenkins (like Zoinks!) is the equivalent of anti-matter popping up in my brain stem.
is actually one of the better college newspapers out there
Are you flippin' kidding me?? I can't say I go around reading college newspapers from around the country but CM Life is atrocious.
If "out there" means the nation? no. If "out there" is the state? then yes.
The Michigan Press Association (which holds the only statewide competition) has placed them 1st, 1st and 3rd in the top tier over the last three years. This year's Journalist of the Year was a CM-Life writer.
Look, it's not the world's greatest paper, and I don't give a shit about journalism. But give some credit. It's not exactly a rag. Some of those non-major school kids can, you know, actually be good at shit.
Drew Sharp? Is that you?
i did an internship with the Michigan Press Association in Lansing and helped run the contest about five years ago - that contest could not be more arbitrary and 'throw dart at article.' judging is based upon tables of people reading the article, then reading 37 more, tossing out 30 of them and going 'meh, fine. Rose you let me choose best editorial, you pick best photo essay.'
yes and when it seems the same 3-4 people are the ones who choose for college, it might seem obvious what i'm getting at.
also isn't CMU in a different tier than the State News and the Daily? i seem to remember them being in the same tier with WMU, EMU, LCC and others. not joking - i'm almost positive they base it on different levels, am i wrong?
The B10, MAC and GVSU are in the same tier. Maybe Oakland and some others too. Anyway, this convo is dumb, and is making me like journalism even less. That's it for me on this tip.
I also question it b/c of the timing.
Even if Kelly has agreed to terms w/ ND, it would be a "fuck you" of epic proportions to Cinci to announce it 2 days before the biggest game in their program's history.
Even if he has agreed to something definitively, why not wait 3 days until after the Pitt game to announce it?
Talk about throwing your players under the bus... If this pans out I will have no respect for Kelly at all.
He announced he was leaving CMU before their bowl game a few years ago. Obviously different circumstances this time around, but he has done it before.
He accepted the Cincy job three weeks before CMU played in The Motor City Bowl, not three days before they played for their conference championship and a possible BCS berth.
If Brian Kelly to ND is officially announced tomorrow, I will chop off my left testicle and post the video on Youtube.
Better to go with the right. Those are statistically more likely to get cancer than the left ones.
What if your left hangs lower?
It's a difference of degree, not substance, but a huuuuuuge difference of degree.
If Cinci wins Saturday, they finish undefeated and have a legitimate footing from which to make a case to be in the MNC game. Even though they won't be unless Texas loses - which they won't - being in a legitimate position to make the case is important. If they lose Saturday, they have no case for it.
The Motor city bowl really doesn't compare.
Also, 2 days vs. 3 weeks is huge.
It's one thing to do it after a bowl (RR did) it is a whole other level to do it before the end of the regular season. That must be really disheartening to players if it's true
edit beat me to it... damn
If i remember right, RR announced after the Pitt game but before the bowl. He didn't coach the bowl because he announced he was leaving, Stewie did. After Stewie won as an interim HC, WVU lost its collective mind and signed him to a long term contract (and they've regretted it ever since)
DetroitBlue is correct about the time line, although I don't know that Stewie was that poor of a choice. Is he an elite coach? No. But WVU is pretty good this year.
oops typo my bad. I know it was before the bowl... I just got caught up in the rush to respond
Tihs is a typo. Not knowing off the cuff the events that led to up hiring RR is a "fano" (a mistake in the process of being a fan that is only seen in the medium through which the nature of your fanhood is communicated)
I'm still skeptical too, but the coach didn't pass it along to the press just a student he talks to often. This could be bs but giving the relationship with the coach and Kelly I thought there was a good enough chance of it being legit to share.
edit: The student is in the "press" because he writes for the school paper, I was getting at that he told him in a off the record context.
Fuck! Whatever RRod is still the man and will lead us to NC before ND.
nothing's going to be announced tomorrow
I like how your avatar matches your comment in this instance.
Actually, I'd rather have that than the +1. Thanks!
When you typed OMG OMG OMG like that, all I could see was MGO MGO MGO. Have I been spending too much time on this blog?
No, that's fine. I notice that every time I type freakout lines about Brian Kelly.
If true, does this possibly change the minds of Clausen and Tate (assuming they were thinking of going pro)?
Definintely not Clausen.
If Kelly implements his spread there, it's a different system.
No matter who coaches ND, Clausen will go pro because of:
- New coach, system change in senior year.
- Sam Bradford
Clausen is outtie.
Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Every good junior will(should) run to the NFL for the money this year.
Donovan Warren should not go to the NFL early no matter the circumstance.
I am being completely unbiased here. This has nothing whatsoever to do with how bad our secondary will be if he leaves...nothing at all.
The latest reports coming out of the Cincy area are saying that he signed a long term contract with UC, somewhere in the arena of 10 years with the Bearcats. Same info coming out of all our talk radio stations FWIW.
With so much info leaning one way or the other I think at this point I'm waiting for the official announcement.
I remember an article a few months ago, where Kelly mentioned how the UC administration hadn't fulfilled their promises on new football facilities Kelly had asked for. So if he keeps winning, and they don't help him out, a new ten year contract doesn't sound too logical from Kelly's point of view.
there are plans for a practice facility in the works which are rumored to be completed for the 2011 season but I know a point of contention are stadium expansion plans which are halted by the location of the Vocal Arts building on campus:
looking at the stadium and it's tiny. But I just don't see that there's room to renovate the stadium, as indicated, very much unless they add on steep and small second deck.
It's encroached upon on all sides by other buildings.
It is hard for me to believe that Cincy is down on facilities. They hire some of the most well known architects in the world to design objects for their campus. Surprising....
until recently they were in C-USA where a < 40k capacity stadium is about the norm. Their basketball facilities are pretty much on-par with the rest of the Big East and that has been their main athletic focus until the end of the Dantonio/ BK eras.
You're right though they do have a world class DAAP program so I'm with you it is a bit surprising. If I had to guess it comes down to funding and focus.
It's going to be interesting to see who they're able to bring in as their HC and whether he can keep up the football success. I'm still rooting for them; love to see a second big program in Ohio (they play OSU H-T-H in 2013).
There is sure a lot of Brian Kellys out there....
He does have a CMU look to him
Its the hair
I thought it was the glazed look on his face but the hair is something special
and +1 for the kobemol thread tracker btw
and +1 for being a ND fan instead a buckeye fan
I would rather have a CMU look than a ND look. Just saying.
OMG! It's the King of Belch!
this could really revive the UM/ND games going forward. Yes, I'm a little afraid of Kelly, but I'd much rather have another rivalry matchup actually be exciting and mean something.
I'm not necessarily saying that I've been bored with the rivalry lately, but there's been so much negative press on both teams lately that I just want to see it given its proper respect again.
Still a bit intimidated, though... a bit. ;) But confident in RR.
I seriously don't get why people are afraid of Kelly at all.
RR has a more established track record and is more highly regarded than him in coaching circles.
Kelly's a good coach, but all the fear and trepidation is really unwarranted.
If he goes to ND, cool. It's good for the rivalry if both teams are good.
I agree that RR has a more established track record, hence my "still confident in RR" statement. But Kelly has done a good job at UC, and with all the positive press this year, probably wouldn't miss a beat in ND's recruiting.
Either way, I think it would be a good matchup between the coaches and good for the rivalry.
Now, as some have pointed out above, the timing of such an announcement seems fishy. It would be a bad move on his part to announce before this weekend's game (if it is true).
I guess we'll find out soon enough.
I've been a fan of BK's offenses since he was up at GVSU but I'm not really all that afraid (anymore) of the damage he can do at ND. All-in-all, Notre Dame will be getting a hell of a coach if he comes over there: certainly someone who a) wants to coach in college and b) wants to coach there - after all you don't put a no buyout clause in your contract for ND unless you have some aspirations to coach there. I guess I give him some respect for that. I say bring it on!
But I personally would prefer it if Notre Dame would just not be that good and lose to us every year.
In all seriousness, I'll be glad if Notre Dame can rise up and make the series between the two most accomplished collegiate football programs be one of the premier national rivalries again.
but I find it hard to fathom that this announcement would be made 2 days before his team plays for a conference championship, a BCS birth and a possible shot at a national title. Just sayin.
is that more like a caesarean or natural? does it involve being at home, an inflatable pool and a vegan chanting with candles?
As long as you eat the placenta the rest is all icing.
icing? to imply that the woman would be baking cupcakes while giving birth barefoot in the kitchen is a gender stereotype that died in the late 70s. you should be ashamed sir.
So if this is true and they announce it tomorrow, I am assuming Kelly will leave Cincy coachless for their pseudo-championship game and a possible national championship berth?
Lets not forget here that if Texas loses to Nebraska, the bearcats will have a legitimate shot of playing for it all.
This seems unlikely to me UNLESS they told Kelly that it was now or never. And I'm not sure he wouldn't have told them to piss off if that was the way they went about it.
Either way I am not scared of Kelly going to ND.
The Clausen/Tate topic is an interesting one here if this turns out to be true. It does seem possible that ND decided to make the hire ASAP in hopes that it would convince those two to stay. Still seems unlikely that they would stay anyway, but if they were going to change their minds for any new coach it would be Kelly.
would Kelly have a better chance to keep around Jimmay and Tate? I'd think that a pro style offense guy would be more appealing to them than the spread Brian Kelly runs.
Kelly runs a passing spread that and its nothing like the offense we run.
Kelly has done a great job at other schools, but I'm still not convinced that he is the answer in South Bend. He will definitely bring a lot of hype with him, though, and any victories over ND will be even more satisfying than they have been for awhile.
Victorsandbest, is your buddy going to run with this story?
No he told me they were "off the record" when they talked. I was to just trying to pass along some potential insider info.
Too early for Irish fans to start a "fire brian kelly" website? He might go (gulp!) 5-7 his first year.
I'd be utterly shocked if Kelly left Cincy two days before their biggest game of the season.
The paper sites IrishCentral.com as it's source.
Take a look at irishcentral.com once. VERY credible source. wtf Detroit News. stellar job
I doubt BK announces this tomorow. the timing is just terrible. But if this is true, would you really want a guy who would do this to a program as your head coach? At least finish the reg season before you move on.
Kelly already has established himself as the type to bail on a program
ND, I would think, fancies itself a sort of "destination" career move, impervious to such disloyalty.
Yes but to do it 2 days before your season finally with a possible chance to go to a mNC game would hurt ND. Imagine all the negative PR that that would cause
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I live in South Bend (well, Niles, Mich., a bedroom community of SB) and I have to hear the ND love-fest 24/7. For those of you that don't know, Niles, although technically in Michigan, is immediately north of South Bend and less than 3 miles from ND Stadium. Needless to say Wolverine fans are a minority. Although I think it's ridiculous for someone from Michigan to like ND, most of this town doesn't share that opinion.
Anyway, a few things I hate about ND:
I hate how ND kills up-and-coming programs like Cincy and Stanford by offering their coaches lots of money to convince them to leave. I hate their blank helmets. I hate how their fans are pompous, arrogant, and so delusional that they are somehow convinced that ND is still a championship-caliber program. I hate that they refuse to join a conference. I hate their academic excuse for why they haven't succeeded in the past 21 years. I hate their "Fighting Irish" nickname, where if it was any other ethnicity, the NCAA would have told them to change it. I hate how ND thinks it's the only program that has "tradition." I hate their bogus National Championship claims.
Hopefully these rumors are false, but it wouldn't surprise me if they are true. Money talks, and ND has millions to burn.
Sorry dude, but I just don't get it. Why do you think people should cheer for a school that's ~4 hours drive from their homes instead of the one that's three miles away? Do we turn away Toledo based Michigan fans?
And, as much as I'll be negbanged to death for it, at least 5 of the things you hate about Notre Dame are easily applied to large amount of the Michigan fanbase.
If you hate ND so much, why pick another school that's so much like it (although we're not a catholic school)? Michigan fan's are just as arrogant and we haven't even beaten OSU in 6yrs.
Not really sure what brought all that on but I hope this helps
Let's just stop for a second and be realistic, guys
Does ND even need a coach? And if so, why?
you just blew my mind, ke-mo sah-bee
all over ESPN all day saying he wasn't leaving Cincinnati.
IF he does, I look forward to the Freep's indepth articles on what a scumbag Kelly is for leaving Cincinnati in the dark of night.
Assuming the new ND coach brings in his own staff, what do you guys think about Corwin Brown as the new M Defensive Backfield or LB coach? I think there is general agreement that our coaching in those areas is challenged and I think Corwin would be a much improved coach if Charlie wasn't stealing half of his food every day.
Brown has never coached LB's before and I seriously doubt Gibson will be let go.