How dare you bring sanity to the board on a day like today!
How dare you bring sanity to the board on a day like today!
Well get ready for the sunshine because there still isn't a team on our schedule that's unbeatable. Purdue at home, Illinois just lost to a lousy OSU team, Iowa who is never as good as they should be and seems to be feeling a surge of bad playcalling recently, and Nebraska who is not as good as they were meant to be. 11-1 still possible. Even more possible: MSU goes 0-2 the next two games (Wisco and @UNL) and we take the division.
Like Denard said, the B1G championship is still out there. Anything can happen. We haven't imploded yet. There's nothing wrong with 6-1 after 7 weeks of football.
I wish I had your optimism right now. This game felt like a big flashback to the RR era. Outplayed, outcoached, and low emotion. I shall bookmark your post and hope that sometime this week I will appreciate it for what it worth. Today was simply a bummer.
I think we saw a lot of emotion out there today. We saw a team that was obviously overmatched come out and do the best they could against a rival. Don't let the score fool you. We were one play from tying that game. The 4th and 1 play on the 8 was just a killer. Their defensive line just completely overmatched our offensive line which is saying something. We didn't come out flat and we played the hardest we could ask for. I, for one, am absolutely proud of this team for the way they played today. I'm very excited for the progression into the end of this season and the beginning of next season. Hoke is going to get this team together. Forever and always GO BLUE.
This game felt like a big flashback to the RR era. Outplayed, outcoached, and low emotion
In "the RR era," we took the 2009 Spartans to OT in their building. I'm upset that we didn't win that game, which we contested with an awful lot of off-field distractions that week which were no fault at all of the players or coaches.
So much for complaining about "the RR era." I wish that Coach Rodriguez had been running our offense today.
I wish that Coach Rodriguez had been running our offense today.
The problem with that is that he would have been running our defense too.
In "the RR era," we took the 2009 Spartans to OT in their building.
That game was practically a carbon copy of this one. Both times we were dominated for about 50 minutes, but MSU turnovers and penalties kept them from building more than a 14-point lead. Both times we got a big play in the passing game to cut it to seven points. The only functional difference was that on the potential game-tying drive, Forcier had an interception pass through an MSU player's hands, while Denard was picked off. One other difference: that MSU team stunk (6-7) while this one is pretty good.
I share the OP's optimism. We were just physically outplayed today. The way that State dominated the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball (particularly the way their mediocre O-line manhandled us up front and enabled Edwin Baker to rack up 167 rushing yards) shows that we just don't have enough talent to field a dominant front seven or an O-line worthy of a top-tier Big Ten program. It will take at least a year or two to bring this program back to where it was in the first half of the Carr era. There's nothing that Hoke or anyone else can do about that. But the way recruiting is going and the track record of this coaching staff give reason to believe that the future is bright.
Here, here! You are a Leader!
We were undefeated, ranked #11 in the country, and just lost an extremely winnable game against a mediocre opponent that would have put us in the driver's seat to go to the B1G championship game, all because of extremely questionable playcalling.
As someone who came to U-M in 2000, it definitely feels like we are "back" already.
I'm willing to believe this was a one game screw-up by Borges, but I don't see how blowing this game is encouraging for the future. We were the better team. We were ranked higher, we had done better against common opponents, and we pissed away every opportunity to win the game because our offensive coaching staff got schooled.
Saying, "I think we'll get here again and next time the coaches won't fuck it up" doesn't make me feel better about what just happened.
but I really don't think we were the better team. We certainly could've won this game, and I don't know how great MSU is. But they're a better defensive team, and at worst you can say we're even on offense (which is potentially opening a can of worms, but I don't really want to have the Denard-effectiveness discussion here).
But yes, even the absinthe is not making me feel better right now, so the thought that we might one day rule the world is not really doing it for me.
Oh good, Lou Holtz is now on. That will surely help...
They scored 10 against OSU, 13 against ND, and didn't do much today. 333 yards and 2 (should have been 3) turnovers.
Anything but atrocious playcalling on offense (like having the QB's carry the ball 24 times for 27 yards) which wasted 8 trips into MSU territory and we win the game on the road. We are the better team.
But you can't play the "We played better than our point total" game for us and not apply it to MSU in those two games as well. They could have easily scored a lot more against both OSU and ND, but had killer redzone turnovers (and a botched fake FG against ND). It's not like we're the only team that ever commits self-inflicted mistakes.
And to say that they didn't do much today, I really can't agree with. MSU ran the ball at will, even when the situation was obvious. We never sacked the immobile Cousins (while their D sacked our very mobile QBs seven times) and generally couldn't stop their passing game when they tried. I think most neutral observers saw the game as being pretty one-sided.
Still, despite being outplayed for long stretches, we were in this game with five minutes to go, only down a score. That we could play so poorly and still have a chance on the road against a quality opponent - that's something.
Fans at Auburn and other places he's been out complained about his play calling too. It's not an anomaly, it's the beginning of a trend. I hope I'm wrong, but Borges didn't show the best play caling last week against Northwestern and he lost us this game. We were easily the better team.
If we were "easily better," why were we the underdog? Why did most of the media (and Brian) pick us to lose? MSU has gone 15-3 the past two seasons. It may hurt our pride to admit it, but they're pretty good right now.
I do think we'll be better than MSU from next year onward, though. Their 15 minutes are almost up.
on what people who vaguely follow the program think of it? Experts aren't experts at all. We should have won the game. Our players are better. We lost the game because of the coaching. That's what it comes down to.
The coaches can only do so much on certain things, it doesn' help when both sides of our Line are getting blown up. I get it when they were blitzing, but there were far too many plays where MSU rushed 3 or 4 down lineman and STILL got pressure or sacked our guys. We got outplayed badly, but we managed to hang in the game until about 4 minutes left in the game in a game that was supposed to be a blowout in the preseason. 10 wins is still very possible and a quality bowl game is still there for us. While it sucks, and yesterday did seem the apocalypse, it's not the end of the world for the season
MSU was the better team today. Their defense is much better than ours is right now and their backs and Oline played much better than ours did. Talent wise they are better than us at most positions. After a few years of recruiting like we are right now with Hoke we will be the more talented team.
Jason Campbell and Cade McNown would disagree with you, as would the 2004 Auburn team that went undefeated while averaging 30+ points a game and the '97 and '98 UCLA teams that went 10-2 while averaging 40 points a game.
I know today was frustrating, but Borges knows what he's doing. When your QB can't throw the ball to save his life and your opponent (who happens to have the best rush defense in the country) is putting 9 in the box, your options are limited. We just straight up got outplayed.
Don't lose perspective. We'll be okay.
As far as I know, he left UCLA on his own terms. And Auburn's offense fell off a cliff after he resigned from there, so I think he's not the bumbling idiot some short-sighted fans are making him out to be after today's setback.
He just had a shitty day today. I also think the spread-heavy form of the hybrid offense we saw today just isn't working out. Borges doesn't know that style of offense well enough to get into a rythm calling plays and he seems to ignore a lot of the basics that make the offense effective (namely the stuff that makes the defense work horizontally, which is sort of the whole reason to be in the spread).
I would really like to see us come out in two weeks running more of the downhill, running back centric offense I think we all thought we'd see more of. If we can force teams to react to the non-Denard running game, even if they defend it well, that should make everything else a lot easier and help everybody get into a better flow.
I don't want to know what a really shitty day looks like.
I agree. You can't really expect this Michigan team to be a true spread team when the coaches have never run it before. I understand adapting to your players but at some point you have to run what you know and worry about implementing the offense for the future. If we were able to stretch the field vertically with intermediate and longer passes then the running game would be much more effective.
When MSU had to go into the wind and the run became the obvious first choice, they gained only 95 yards in 6 possessions. That included one fumble and 3 three-and-outs. They didn't score a single point going into the wind.
On the flip side, we punted 6 times from inside MSU's 46 yardline (3 times from inside their 40) and turned it over on downs in the redzone. They only crossed midfield once (reaching the Michigan 46) without scoring. Even if you think MSU would have been better under different circumstances, the fact remains that Michigan wins the game easily if Borges does anything but call an atrocious game.
I watched the game in a bar (and haven't watched the DVR yet) but are you talking about the backward pass that was dropped and should have been a live ball? I can't believe that no one has made a bigger deal out of this. It would have given Michigan the ball in MSU territory. Instead, MSU went on a TD drive. I thought that this bad call was critical to the game......but I haven't watched the DVR yet.
It was a backwards pass but because it was ruled incomplete and both team just stopped, nobody immediately recovered the ball, it could not be overturned.
Wait a minute...Borges cant throw passes for the kids..i love Denard but IMO his inaccuracy finally caught up to US..a bad game and we must improve
talent, but they played with more cohesion on both sides of the ball. Our split personality on offense was further complicated by the repeated insertion of Gardner early on. The announcers belabored the question ad nauseum, but I think it did inhibit our getting into offensive rhythm.
And although some of the missed passes are on Denard, the O line failed to protect him, repeatedly. A half second more for him on most plays and it's a different game.
I am not being sarcastic, this post really cheered me up. Thanks dude!
It's ALWAYS great to be a Michigan Wolverine.
The future would be brighter if we could complete some passes.
I am not drunk enough for this kind of common sense...come back tomorrow.
Agree 100%. I'm not even that upset that we lost anymore. State has an impressive defense and outplayed us. The only thing I'm upset about still is the dirty play by MSU, but that's to be kept in another thread.
I'm glad we get a bye week to heal up some and hopefully basically another bye week against Purdue before our next big test in Kinnick Stadium. Go blue, always!
And here I thought you got slammed pretty hard. If not for MSU penalties all game the score would have been a lot worse. Make no mistake, you got punched in the mouth today, literally and figuratively. Denard hurt, the season starts to crumble like the last 2 years.
So you have now abandoned all pretense of being a gracious visiting fan?
Not to dredge old posts, but I just call it like I see it.
Even on bad days like today, I'm glad I'm a Michigan fan. It's great to be a Michigan Wolverine.
I like your moxie!
This doesn't have anything to do with football but have you guys tried the Wendy's new Dave's big and juicy burgers? Theyre pretty gosh darn good.
Thanks. I'll do a drive through for dinner.
I remember reading an article about the development of that burger, it was a huge project for them. They market tested them near their headquarters in Ohio and they sold like hotcakes.
I agree, we have great coaches, a great recruiting class coming in, and I honestly still see us winning 9-10 games this year, which at the beginning of the year all of us would have taken. I love our guys for staying classy and not stooping to cheap shots and dirty plays, as well as not complaining about it at the presser. Let's heal up with this bye week, and move on to Purdue. Go blue!
I agree the future is bright. I am crazy excited to see what this team becomes in two years. I think Hoke is a great coach and hires great coordinators. So far this season we have not truely been tested other than at Notre Dame. This loss certainly provides a great deal of information on the areas where we are weak and that will ultimately be helpful if we want to beat a much bigger rival than MSU.
I'm not quite ready to concede a shot at the Big Ten Title Game this year. I will say that Purdue may not be a pushover. Penn State only beat them 23-18. Still many more games this year before thinking about next year. Oh yeah and basketball is right around the corner. How's that for a silver lining.
I agree with all said except that I think we're still competing this year. We're still a player in the Legends division and this can still be remembered as a great first year for the new regime. I've got my eye on the game against tsio.
The future was also bright in:
2004: We only just lost to USC last year.
Result: Lose to OSU, humiliated in the bowl game.
2005: So many skill players, ranked so high in the preaseason.
Result: 7-5, derp the Jug, lose to OSU, humiliated in the bowl game.
2006: Last year was an aberration.
Result: Lose to OSU, humiliated in the bowl game.
2007: We were only a quarter away from playing in the title game.
Result: The Horror
2008: We have RichRod! Spread n'shred baby!
2009: Year 2 = win (and we have the stats to prove it)
Result: Year 2 + Tate = More Fail + No bowling for you
2010: Year 3 = win (no, really). BOOM Denarded!
Result: The Decimated Defense
2011: We have Hoke! MANBALL!
Result: Juggalo party round 4, ????
Well pardon us for being positive...
Man, we should win every game every year. That's totally realistic.
this is the guy who cheered on the Denard helmet ripping
Yeah, that 06 team sure sucked
We were "humiliated" in the bowl game after the 2004 season? The rose bowl loss to Texas? That was a great game and we lost on a last second field goal. Wtf are you talking about?
I call losing a won game at the last second humiliating. What do you think we've been doing to ND the last two years? And yes, 2006 was a dissapointment. Our collapse against USC and the Horror were a one-two punch that branded us as perenially overrated in the eyes of the ESPN/SEC crowd (despite evidence like Florida in '07).
I guess part of my frustration stems from the fact that I'm too young to really remember the glory days of Michigan football. I was barely out of middle school the last time we beat Ohio State, so you can imagine how it feels contemplating the prospect of losing to MSU and OSU again (after watching OSU-Illinois today I really doubt we win this year).
To go into The Game undefeatedand come less than a touchdown away from playing for the NC?! Goddamn that team!
Hoke is doing a great job.
I don't think we will collapse and finish 1-4, because our defense really has improved. We do face some good Dline's which scares me, but I think most of us said 8-4 maybe 9-3 at the start of the season...hard to back off that predicition at this point.
Hate to admit it, but I thought we'd go 6-6.....I thought it would be hard to improve the defense this much and thought the offense would struggle too much with a new system and then struggling special teams.... Glad I am wrong.
Def. not finishing 1-4. We'll beat Purdue at home, and honestly, Illinois doesn't scare me that much. OSU and their D scare me, but their offense is much, much worst than Michigan State. Iowa also doesn't seem that threatening. It's not hard to envision us finishing with a 9 or 10 win season still. Just need to take it one game at a time.
They also get progressively more difficult (which I think is a good thing for building momentum/confidence). State plays Wisconsin and @Nebraska the next two weeks, so there is a great chance that we could be right back in the conference race coming down the stretch if the offense can get into a rhythm and take care of business the next few weeks.
we'll beat Purdue and Iowa for sure the tough stretch will be the last 3 games
The class we have coming in, along with the new guys in 2013 have me thinking that this loss is only a minor speed bumb in our road back to glory. OL? Kalis and Mgnuson to the rescue! Defense? Do we even need to discuss the defensive players coming in? And Stonum will be back (hopefully) next year to be the big threat WR. RB? Do we need to get Coach Jackson in here? The coaching is there, and massive improvements are being seen on D already. The players are improving, and I think that premature attrition will be less than what we've been used to.
So, yes. It IS good to be a Michigan Wolverine!
Our team will play better and coach better.
Our players and fans are classier.
Our campus and school is better.
So yes, it is still and always will be great, to be, a Michigan Wolverine.
Great post, and great big picture view of things. We will win 8 or 9 games and get to a bowl game that we deserve, and be able to build confidence for next year.
As we look at a record of 6-1 going into a bye with Purdue up next , it would do us all good to look back at 2008 with the last changing of the guard at Michigan. Lest we forget recent history, at this point in 2008 we were 2-5 with a loss to MAC foe Toledo at home. We were on our way to a 3-9 record and no sniff of a bowl game. Things will be fine and we will get better.
I'm pissed and so tired of hearing about "wait til next year" fuck it's been 4 years of waiting
wait til next year
Just win baby. That's all it ever comes down to.
Appreciate the attempt, but MSU just beat UM's butts left, right, and sideways. Too many uncomfortable flashbacks from the past two years to be happy right now.
Look, it wasn't our finest moment. There is a lot to learn from a game like today. Rather then sit here and complain about the dirty play, it's good to see a positive thought and comments about the direction of this program.
It's a great time to be a Michigan fan! Go Blue!
We all knew we wouldn't go undefeated. To be at 6-1 with the class that our players and coaches have shown is something to be proud of. The team has represented the university well, and the future is bright. Go blue!
Borges needs to be bit smarter than to call a trick play on 4th and 1 with momentum after scoring to make it a one score game. That deflated everything.
Actually made my shitty day go away!!! Great points and it is sad that this is their NC game
I hate to bring this up, but with Michigan, Illinois, Clemson and Georgia Tech all losing today, where do you think Michigan lands up? Are we out of top 25 already? Also, does Ohio have a chance to sneak back in?
There's a good section on WolverineNation re how MSU played today:
"So was it dirty?
"Definitely. Definitely," Michigan State defensive tackle Jerel Worthy said with a small smile on his face. "Any rivalry you have like that, there's going to be little cheap shots and stuff like that. But you've got to just play through it.
"It's football, at the end of the day, man on man. You've got to overcome it."
Then there was Kirk Cousins saying the rest of his life all he needed to show was 4 fingers - cause he will slip in to alcoholism and shoot doubles when he realizes (i) not even the Jacksonville Jags will draft him (ii) his MSU degree is only good in East Lansing, in the rest of the world it's good for Asst to to Asst for Deputy Waste Disposal (iii) his only school contacts will come in handy if he ends up at Jackson Correctional or needs to score some blow
Shit just got real. I'm very impressed.
2 weeks to get today behind them and get this thing back on track.
Like mentioned above Sparty has a couple of tough games coming up and its very conceivable that after Oct 29 UM will be in control of its own destiny in the Legends Division.
that the future is bright. However, the coaching staff did not live up to expectations today. Toughness is something Coach Hoke has been talking about since he was hired. Today the offensive staff did not give the team a chance to show toughness, because they did not try to establish the run. They pretty much decided that the passing attack was key, when we all know that if you can win the rushing battle in this game you have a good chance of winning. MANBALL my ass today!
What a pathetic game plan, we can promote Hoke all we want but today we basically got outcoached by Pat Narduzzi....seriously.....Al Borges had nothing for a constant blitz package? I'm sitting here watching on my TV like many other Michgan fans just waiting for an adjustment, and nothing? Really? If Brady Hoke thinks he is just going to excell with words, he is wrong, the play on the field was atroicous today, put on a headset and get involved! Denard had running lanes all game long and just waited for the pass which he couldn't achieve. I'm not claiming to be a genious, but I thought that was absolutely the worst offensive game plan I have seen since Carr was the coach and that's saying something since I thought Rich Rod was the worst Michigan coach in the history of Michigan football. Today was a disgrace, and if this is all Hoke can bring for an offensive game plan against a simple blitz package I again guessed right wishing that the only coach who could bring us back to the actual football we dream about is Les Miles......
Scott Tenorman of the week right there. Sounds like some good TWIS material. Brian?
But seriously, you fail hard at being a fan. Calling for Brady Hoke's head because he's six and one? Jesus Christ.
Rich lost by more at the Big House in '10. His squad scored three more points.
I hate seeing all of the negative talk here, we lose a game to our rivals, who arent that bad.. at all the sudden we're back to three years ago with rich rod? we don't suck. we had a rough game, and we're beaten by the better team today. But, we were a few plays away from winning the game or taking it into overtime. If Denard doesn't throw that pick and if we capitalize on one or two of those drives that started on their side of the 50... we win. I'll take being one or two plays away than getting whooped on like in the past.
We got ooutplayed and outcoached on national TV. As it turned out we were overrated. The drop in the polls, if not out of the polls will prove that out. The next three games will have to be proof that Michigan turned it around from the last three years.
If we don't beat Iowa and Illinois, this season could look way too familiar. OSU is getting stronger every week. Aside from Purdue, this team will have it's hands full in every game they have left to play.
It's great to be a Michigan Wolverine, but we still have a VERY long way to go to get back to Michigan Football.
From the OP:
" MSU supporters are thrilled about ... a team that would make Michigan fans embarrassed." """
Just like there are some classless Michigan fans, though, I know at least one MSU supporter who is embarrassed as hell by the team. I'm sure there are a lot more as well.
And you are right. The Michigan players can hold their heads high. I know I'm proud of the team and see a better future ahead.
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing”
let us wallow for the night and THEN look at the bright side...right now its time for a bottle of vodka and playing with firearmms! i'll think about the bright side when get up tommorrow and watch my Pats and Lions kick some ass!
I believe the optimism is warranted in the long term. Unfortunately, I also see some not so fun reality for next year.
Michigan was flat outplayed today. You can talk about play calling, dirty play, and wind all you want, Michigan lost this game in the trenches. (on both sides).
So, looking to next year on the Offensive line. Michigan loses Molk & Hugye. I don't see next years line being better than this years because of this, even with the extra year in the system for Lewan, Barnum, & Omameh.
On the D-Line, Michigan loses Martin, Van Bergen, & Heninger. That's 3/4 of the starting front. Even if Big Will & Roh erupt next year, I don't see the D-Line being better next year either.
FInally, QB play. I obviously have no idea what happens in practice, but based on the past two weeks QB rotation and Hoke's press conference comment about Gardner being more accurate, I'm starting to belive the coaches are questioning Denard's ability to be the long term solution. If that's the case next year's QB situation could be far less than ideal.
I reserve judgement on Borges until we see what kind of game he calls against Iowa (cover 2 just like MSU), Illinois, Nebraska, and Ohio State.
This is a long winded way of saying, it may be another year before you see a team that can go toe to toe with MSU in the trenches. This also does not bode well for playing Alabama and Notre Dame early next year either.
He lost to State. If we could finish by beating OSU, that would be fine by me.
My main concern for next year are the lines. I'm genuinely concerned we'll actually take a step back before moving forward in 2013. our o-line depth is bad. very bad. we're going to have walk-ons in the 2 deeps on teh o-line next year.
I also think Hoke's master plan is to have Gardner be the Starting QB next year...and that is why he is forcing him into games now. This i like and think will make us a more well rounded offense and take some pressure off that line. we need to use Denard as a hybrid WR/RB and get him in space as much as possible.
The future is certainly bright...but don't be surprised if there's some clouds for a while before the sky clears.
How is it that we consistently recruit better than State, but they have a better defensive line, running backs, secondary, linebackers, and equally good receivers? I don't get how this thing happens where they keep out-recruiting us and then they have more talent on the field. Seems to happen to a lot of teams. How is it that there's all these teams that manage to be complete teams despite not pulling in tons of four-stars?
I remember Brian posting in 2007 about how much Michigan State's recruiting class sucked, how the best player in their recruiting class was about as good as our 17th best player, and how Michigan State's profession was loser. How is it that that class went on to never experience a loss to Michigan?
BETTER RECRUITING Y U NO BETTER TEAM?!?!?!?!?
Look at what teams like Wisconsin and Iowa have done with lesser-ranked recruiting classes. How does it happen? Good coaching. And having a sound recruiting plan, where you're looking for players that maybe were under-recruited but fit your system well.
It doesn't just happen in the Big Ten. Look at Nebraska in their Big 12 and earlier Big 8 days, who for many years succeeded the same way, and maybe were the first to consistently do so.
A lot of factors go into building winning teams; it's not just recruiting the five star players.
As to Sparty, he feasted for 3 years on a Michigan squad that wasn't built well, certainly not defensively, for the B1G's level of competition.
And this year I think we saw the perfect storm: our offense's weaknesses played into their defense's strengths; our offense hasn't played well in bad weather, and yesterday's winds exacerbated that problem; our play-calling was Borges' worst so far (c'mon, a pass on fourth and inches in that wind with Denard having a bad day??).
Finally, I alone am responsible for the biggest mistake of all. Yes, I wore my lucky socks but also had my M hat and shirt from the last couple of years on, and frankly, I'm burning those things, never to be tempted to wear them again.
Let's face MD and his coaching staffs are good. Narduzzi is a very good coach and has the record to prove it. More importantly, MD and his staffs seem to do it with players that are not highly ranked. Check this year's defense. It is dominated by underclass men with less experience and lower ranking than our defense. Even on offense, their OL played much better than ours and none of them were highly ranked (two of them were on the DL last year).
Let's face it, the old days of dominating MSU is gone. Even if Hoke can repeat the same recruiting success in future, I believe MSU will get enough good players and has the coaches to compete with us year in and year out. I am going to go on a limp and claim that they could make it 5 in row next year.
Of course you're right. But, the standards are much higher here. Yes, it's good we are improving. Yes, it's good we are already bowl elegible. Yes, it's good we have 6 wins, beat ND, and are nationally ranked. But, the frustrating part is we still haven't had a signature big win in conference play in ages. That is oohhh so frustrating. And, until we have some beef on the lines of both sides of the ball I don't see it happening. And, that is still 2-3 years away unfortunately. Which means it's quite possible MSU takes this winning streak another 2 years. And that is hard tough pill to swallow. MSU looses Cousins & Cunningham, but returns everyone else and basically their entire defense. Yes, 2-3 years down the road when Hoke's recruits get here it will be nice. But, we still have another two years to suffer with poor conference play I think, and man I am sick of that.
Yes it hurts to lose to MSU. It hurts to lose any game. That being said, I like what this staff and these players are putting together. Having Denard try to run a pro style set is like putting a square peg in a round hole. I'm sure Denard thought about this last year when Hoke was hired. But the young man did something better than I'd say a lot of us would. He put aside the temptation to go to another school where he could put up huge numbers and make himself even more of a superstar. He decided to stay. Stay for his teammates, stay for his education, stay for his love of Michigan. Listen to Bo's Team Speech. he said we won't speak bad about each other, we'll pick each other up. This is what this Team needs now more than ever. Thanks to the OP for the thread.
and have come to the conclusion that:
1. MSU was well coached, and played smart. Whatever Denard's improvement in passing,
he use of the blitz to confuse him.
2. We will have a lot of trouble with OSU (and everybody else to some degree) if Denard doesn't progress in his passing significantly.
3. We are midstream.....can't really go back to the RR spread really At this stage of the season I doubt that will happen.
3. It will become imperative to use Gardner more, using the 'Fritz' and his relatives.
4. Even so we weren't that far from winning...........
5. Its Great to be a Wolverine!
it's we have a chance still to win the B10,we can also have a 10 win season. SHOELACE will have another off season to get better which will be scary.