FSU looking into Jameis Winston autographs
October 14th, 2014 at 2:23 PM ^
Might have played out better if he hadn't been under investigation for sexual assault only a few months earlier. Just sayin'
October 13th, 2014 at 10:06 PM ^
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October 13th, 2014 at 10:07 PM ^
... he'll be the Al Capone of college football.
Think it's absurd that it's harder to beat a paying for autograph scandel than it is sexual abuse. Absurd but not surprised given the house of cards is built by a bunch of rich, old white dudes more concerned with their bottom line than right vs. wrong.
October 14th, 2014 at 7:40 AM ^
with anything? Oh, that's right, NOTHING. People are corrupt regardless of wealth, race, gender, or any other shallow measure.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:08 PM ^
Even if he sold autographs I am not sure why this is wrong. Fame is a legitimate way to make money. Coaches endorse products all the time- isn't there a double standard here?
October 13th, 2014 at 10:12 PM ^
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October 13th, 2014 at 10:19 PM ^
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October 13th, 2014 at 10:52 PM ^
So just change the rules- not complicated!
October 14th, 2014 at 12:10 AM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 2:08 AM ^
Unjust rules should be broken. That is the American Way, and why we are not a colony of a self-interested colonial power.
October 14th, 2014 at 7:38 AM ^
Please tell me you aren't that ignorant of American history.
October 14th, 2014 at 8:11 AM ^
Civil disobedience requires both the disobedience and the passive acceptance of the authorities handing out the consequences.
Protesting an unjust law then running away when the cops come to arrest you isn't civil disobedience.
October 14th, 2014 at 7:52 AM ^
gets you kicked out of school
it's dumbass?
October 13th, 2014 at 10:08 PM ^
October 13th, 2014 at 10:15 PM ^
Really, Brian Kelly?
October 13th, 2014 at 11:38 PM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 12:09 AM ^
Upvoted.
October 14th, 2014 at 3:16 AM ^
Nothing will ever beat the Shaun Crawford meme, sorry man. It really struck a chord with me.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:09 PM ^
October 13th, 2014 at 10:21 PM ^
You mean looking at throwing the story in the garbage?
"Kids sign things all the time," Fisher said after Saturday's game. "So what do you want them to do, stop signing stuff? We could make them not have any fans from that standpoint and not sign for anybody. That's what it's going to come to, and that's a shame for college football, that somebody exploits a kid. Now if they're getting paid for it, then I don't have any knowledge of that. I don't believe Jameis did."
Or how about that from Jimbo? Allegedly signed 340 items for a dealer.
Really mind boggling to me how someone could be under investigation in 2 separate incidents, not to mention his priors, and still be playing football. ND players were investigated and withheld from all football related activities, much like I am sure Michigans players would be. You want to know why neither of our teams are going to win a NC anytime in our lifetimes? This is why.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:22 PM ^
Something probably suspicious here of the Manziel variety. The thing is, any "investigation" of this nature will take some time to come to it's natural end. I'd say he misses the first half of the Boston College game in November.
Regardless, your boy Lou will pick ND this weekend despite the legit 12 point spread.
October 13th, 2014 at 11:38 PM ^
Maybe I didn't notice when it happened, but I don't recall Notre Dame acting on the Lizzy Seeberg incident, seemed more like circling the wagon than anything else. My point being, every program has skeletons--how many and how ostensible is another matter. And I would imagine coaching also has something to do with why neither Michigan nor Notre Dame will win a NC soon: Saban, Dantonio, Harbaugh(not because he went to a NC, rather he reaped success at an institution with similar academic standards as Michigan and ND), Malzahn are better coaches than what ND and Michigan have had.
October 14th, 2014 at 12:19 AM ^
I did not recall the Lizzy Seeberg incident at ND but you're absolutely correct. ND could not have handled that with much less sensitivity. I don't recall ND being exactly forthcoming about the 2010 death of student manager Declan Sullivan, either.
Self righteousness from ND and it's fans? Shocking.
RIP Lizzy Seeberg.
October 14th, 2014 at 12:52 AM ^
ND took full responsibility for Sullivans death and never tried to cover up anything.
http://news.nd.edu/news/21587-notre-dame-investigation-finds-four-prima…
Beware the stones you are throwing in your glass Big House.
October 14th, 2014 at 2:29 PM ^
Six safety violations and a $77k fine from IOSHA noting the young man was up in 53 mph gusts. They didn't cover up anything...tell me again about their accountability?
As I said last fall, we failed to keep him safe, and for that we remain profoundly sorry," Jenkins said in a prepared statement.
October 14th, 2014 at 12:48 AM ^
The players involved weren't charged let alone investigated. I am not about to trash the name of a dead girl for a rebuttal on a message board. I will say what anyone else not involved in the incident will say and that is "Something happened and there are only 2 people who know for sure". I can't say a player did or didn't do anything because I wasn't there.
As far as your coaching theory is concerned Kelly in under rated imo.
October 14th, 2014 at 10:33 AM ^
How noble of you.
Edit:
For those not familiar with the case, here are a few details. Yes, the officials dragged their feet and didn't begin a proper investigation. Ten days later the victim committed suicide. No victim to bring charges--no case.
Here's an article from the National Catholic Reporter that discusses some of the details of the case.
It's not simply a he said-she said case. It's an institution pulling out all stops to protect itself and its image by delaying, covering up, and trashing the reputation of a female student who had the audacity to accuse a Notre Dame football player of sexual assault.
October 14th, 2014 at 3:21 PM ^
And then there is the case of one Mr. Gibbons...
October 13th, 2014 at 11:39 PM ^
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October 13th, 2014 at 11:44 PM ^
Two sets of rules.
October 14th, 2014 at 1:32 AM ^
ND will have a shot at it this year. It's an open field, Golston is an elite QB, and the schedule is strong enough to drop a game and make it. But yeah, I agree with your metapoint, the academic investigation would have been buried at FSU.
October 14th, 2014 at 4:48 AM ^
ND fans really shouldn't ever commenting about a sexual assault case against a player.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:13 PM ^
I bet all this attention is making Jameis feel crabby.
October 13th, 2014 at 11:41 PM ^
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October 14th, 2014 at 12:58 AM ^
You can get a good look at a butcher's ass by sticking your head up there, but wouldn't you rather take his word for it?
No, what I mean is, you can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a butcher's ass...No, wait. It's gotta be your bull
October 14th, 2014 at 7:29 AM ^
Tommy Boy
October 13th, 2014 at 10:23 PM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 7:18 AM ^
there will always be issues at every school from time to time to be dealt with. The problem with Winston is that he's always in trouble and never seems to learn from it. Moving to the pros will not solve his issues...they will continue IMO.
His father's statement that someone needed to be with him 24/7 to keep him out of trouble tells me everything I need to know. Dad never set any expectation that he keep his own shit straight.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:29 PM ^
And I fully expect them to find nothing to make them not play Winston. There is a lot of smoke here, but it is pretty clear that the NCAA isn't too inclined to stop the secondary market for autographs and other player memorabilia that has been going on for years now.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:37 PM ^
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October 13th, 2014 at 11:41 PM ^
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October 13th, 2014 at 11:11 PM ^
He's going to get kicked out of school after this Student Conduct hearing is done.
This story is starting to look ugly. Working with the FSU police force to share a crime report with the attorney for Jameis, prior to the report being provided to the District Attorney.
I think the school is starting to realize that nothing good can come from continuing to protect a kid who is too stupid and greedy for his own good.
October 13th, 2014 at 11:30 PM ^
No he isn't. He'll withdraw from the university before that happens. If he's not a student the hearing ends. More than likely he withdraws before he even has to participate in it in any way.