Details are starting to emerge from FSU's investigation in the the Jameis Winston Rape Case. From Deadspin:
FSU investigates Jameis Winston, Charges 2 Teammates in Rape Case
And away we go.
Need a ring on its finger.
On a side note is Jamies struggling on the mound? I thought this was to be swept under the rug until after the season.
Where is my popcorn!
I'll get my popcorn ready.
Can you make extra for hoek? It appears as though he can't find his
but they won a National Title. That's apparently all that matters.
thing was so slimy. The prosecuting attorney might as well have released the following statement: "We are declining to prosecute Mr. Winston because we find him to be badass and we want the Seminoles to bring home the title." At least then I would have appreciated the candor.
This was the University's finding that is a steaming pile of Dogsh*t:
The administrators concluded that without Winston's cooperation there was insufficient evidence to support a finding of a Title IX violation at that time, but that "conduct code charges could be issued" if additional information about the incident became available.
All day boliver. One of the best & generates a smile every time you post.
Good thing ESPN assigned Chantel to the PAC 12 and not the ACC.
There's nothing particularly new here. The two roommates are being charged for their conduct which they stated occurred in sworn affidavits as part of the criminal investigation. Those affidavits were the "eye-witness" testimony that Winston's attorney argued cleared Winston of any rape allegations.
I'd be surprised if the purported victim participates in any FSU investigation. I think at this point, with Winston likely to be a millionaire, she's likely to wait and pursue it in the civil courts.
Either way, it's pretty damn late.
ahhh. so all you have to do is say "I don't have to answer that" and you get off (literallly in this case) scott free. Good to know.
It depends on your 40 time, your pad level, your motor, etc.
all you have to say is: "I don't recall".
depends on the definition of "is"
This is good to see in part because there's every appearance that the local authorities did an atrocious job investigating this claim at the time of the incident. And because it helps educate the world-at-large about the difference between a Title IX investigation and a criminal investigation. And because it gets the sports-attentive audience thinking about what "rape" really means, and gets people thinking that consent needs to be clear-headed and unambivalent.
And it's also good to see because from the outside Winston seems like a budding Roethlisberger - a self-entitled athlete who thinks he operates by different rules. In part because the FSU / Milledgeville law enforcement systems [respectively] treated them differently than they would treat other men.
And it's interesting that the roommate videotaped the incident, but then decided to ditch his phone and destroy the SD card. That has the fresh smell of "destruction of evidence" on it to me.
Finally, it's good to see that these Title IX investigations are occurring at more campuses and is not a problem unique to B1G schools. (Even better would be if these events didn't happen, of course.)
I thought this was over already
Casher also said he'd walked into the room "to see if the female would agree to allow Casher to participate in the sex acts that were occurring." Denied, he filmed the two having sex on his cell phone. He told investigators he'd deleted the video and discarded the phone.
Every guy dreams of (and sometimes gets) the threesome, but if this trend (FSU/MSU) of athletes thinking running a train on some girl is a standard act continues, you really have to wonder about the state of our morals.
the "Devil's Threesome"!!!!
...is an occupational hazard in Devil's Threesomes
Seems slanted in the wrong direction.
Every guy dreams. . . no.
Two of my freshman teammates were celebrating completing an "Eiffel Tower" on a girl in their dorm. I'm sure some faction of guys, athlete and non-athlete alike, are into this sort of thing. You just hope it's always consensual and regret free. Sadly in these cases it seems to be much worse than consensually enjoyable by all.
There have been several cases where men have used cellphone recordings to escape false rape accusations. So either this guy who destroyed the video is monumentally stupid, suddenly grew a conscience about porn filmed without permission, or the video is incriminating.
Which is more likely is left as an exercise for the reader.
Convenient they waited a few months after they won the title.
It's almost as if they choreographed the whole thing.
"Casher also said he'd walked into the room "to see if the female would agree to allow Casher to participate in the sex acts that were occurring." Denied, he filmed the two having sex on his cell phone."
Glad to see he took that rejection in stride.
EDIT: Appears I'm not the first one here to point this quote out, but this deserves to be read twice.
Probably wasn't his first rejected threesome.
This whole ordeal was spawned by the University of Florida and their alumni...of whom the girl in question's lawyer was a law student there. Her story was complete bull. College guys display sexually deviant behavior and it's not excusable especially when criminal. If you think Seminole football players taking pics of chics and running trains is the end of the rabbit hole....sorry I'll spare you what goes on in Frat houses across the country. I don't understand why people continue to try a play judge and jury especially when these allegations are found a cross the country and even in Ann Arbor. Jameis did not rape that girl. There was not even enough evidence for a charge....and that was at the hands of Willie Meigs who has charged numerous FSU players in the past. Stop running with these TMZ and Dead spin articles. They are sully and contrary to the truth.
"I don't understand why people continue to try a play judge and jury..."
"Jameis did not rape that girl."
How are you kettle?
The victim's lawyer went to Florida...that is your reasoning that this story must be false. That and "what goes on in Frat houses across the country"? In case you didn't pay attention to the whole Gibbons fiasco a couple months ago, just because someone isn't charged for a sexual assault, doesn't mean one didn't occur.
"of whom the girl in question's lawyer was a law student there"
you write pretty.
a purty mouth...
You ain't talkin' real smart.
Except your argument is completely negated because there wasn't enough evidence in the Gibbons case to charge him either; it was a later, separate school investigation that did the bulk of the discovery.
My comment was to highlight that, as in the gibbons case, a lack of charges =/= no assault. The post stated
- it was a UF vendetta
- no charges were brought, so Winston didn't do anything wrong
- it happens everywhere so it is ok
My point was to make fun of 1 & 3, and counter 2.
60 minutes is doing a story comparing the Gibbons case here at U of M to the Winston FSU case. I'm guessing that motivated FSU to try and save face.
pray tell--did you obtain this info?
Guys, trust me. Winston TOTALLY didn't rape that girl.
I guess I should drop an /s here.
Here's something that adds a layer to the story per USA Today (LINK):
The U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights opened an investigation of Florida State University into whether its handling of the Jameis Winston rape allegations violated Title IX laws, according to a letter confirming the decision that was obtained by USA TODAY Sports.
Part of the reason is in the article - the contention stated here is that FSU went almost a year without requesting the help of the alleged victim despite her stated willingness to assist, according to her lawyer.
It's also important to note that OCR opened the case after the alleged victim filed a complaint in early March.
FSU will cover their rears and at worst receive a reprimand and be forced to kick some life into a process that clearly takes a back seat to the needs of the football program. The question is, what will the NCAA do? Pre-Penn State, nothing, or at least not much. Post-Penn State, ? Jameis will be playing on Sundays before this shakes out.
as VP of Student Affairs for a large university and who have a strong desire to "advance" to a similar position at Ferris State is quite small.Ferris State was lucky. Or was she run out of town for some reason? I'd like to know more about that.
...you do realize this is about Florida State right?
Florida State took a position at a much smaller Michigan University named Ferris State right?
Ferris State University has named a vice president of student affairs from a major public university in Florida. Jeanine Ward-Roof will begin the position on Feb. 17. Ward-Roof will be responsible for a $3.5-million budget at FSU and more than 50 staff. She will give leadership to many of FSU’s departments, including enrollment services and student life. Ward-Roof has held this same position for seven years at Florida State University.
considering we just had our own rape controversy involving a former member of the football team. should we really start slinging shit at FSU?