The year is 2030. Jim Harbaugh is coming off of his 5th NC with michigan, and Dave Brandon, retired for three years, finishes writing his tell all book about the coaching change. BKFinest it
Friday morning 'WTF is going on?' thread
But if the latest reports are accurate (which you should doubt), then it's starting to look like Harbaugh may be content where he is and may have just been using his newfound status as the hottest coach in America to get a bigger payday out of Stanford.
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Miss you big guy! XOXO
So I can't think of anything useful to add.
is the more than likely NFL strike and possible cancellation of the 2011 season. I suspect Ross told him this would happen. JH does not want to sit out a year.
I'm trying to think but nothing happens!!!
ONLY 5 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS IN 20 YEARS?!? RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Tony Dungy on Michigan coaching gig: " I'm glad they didn't call " Dungy said. He added that they would be tough to say no to.
Call him quickly!!!
Elway says Harbaugh down to 2 - Stanford and....
We'll show up to watch your teams.
but I have a pimple on my ass that is chafing me right now. That is the only certainty.
It all makes sense now. thank you.
middle of the right cheek
Irish in the coffee will make one drunk by 9AM.
Pete Carroll did the same thing when he was getting interest from NFL teams. He'd meet with NFL teams and gauge their interest, learn about the organizational structure of the teams, etc. But it was all for naught as he would return to his college team.
Don't deny there's a little part in all of us that wants to see JH at SF so these two could renew acquaintances. There would literally be the possibility of them throwing down at midfield.
Not in me. I could care less about the NFL, and am actively working on it. Harbaugh sticking Carroll would give me zip for vicarious pleasure.
JH: "What your deal?"
Make it happen ...
Hey may not be sexy, but he had a winning record at Minnesota and put Kansas football back on the map. Won the Jug from us for the first time since Holtz, won some big games there. He's an OSU guy who gets the Rivalry, has midwest ties, and isn't Brady Hoke.
I agree, he obviously has some accomplishments on his resume. But if he was that good, he would have a job by now, or be considered for some of the other high priority jobs since he left. I'd rather have Hoke than Mason, and I don't want Hoke either.
That'll really calm the savage fan base...
"We've hired Glen Mason."
Just envisioning a Mason hire is making Brian's servers melt.
Would Glen Mason's Hot Wife be part of the deal?
Have we stooped so low that people are seriously contemplating hiring Minnesota's cast-offs? Why not Brewster? I hear he is a hell of a recruiter and was going to run the spread with Gray at one point
Although he did "rebuild" KU and Mn - once he hit the ceiling he was unable to do anything. His defenses at Minn were terrible. He had a reputation as having terrible relationships with HS coaches - one reason Brewster was able to come in an really upgrade the recruiting was that Mason had set the bar so low. Game day he was also a pretty bad coach in close games - inventing new ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
The guy put together some very good offenses, but no way not even close to this job. Hoke is way preferable.
Stanford is back in the driver's seat. But we're back in it, at least more than we were...
Here's how I'd handicap it now:
5-2 odds Stanford
3-1 odds Michigan
4-1 odds 49ers
20-1 odds Broncos
Or something like that!
John Elway's influence.
I fail to see Elway's influence. I understand he went to Stanford but I really don't see that being an issue with JH. I highly doubt that JH sees Elway as this all time great that he can not say no to. Just my opinion, I never thought the Broncos were any kind of player in the game.
The broncos are paying two other coaches, and so they simply can't afford to pay Harbaugh the appropriate bank to lure him, especially in a potentially locked-out year
I thought I heard somewhere that the two of them don't really get along. We can only hope...
That means there's 3000-1 odds that he'll coach the Lions AND Michigan. Please let it be so!
Don't underestimate the power of the schwartz.
Les miles finishes his bowl game, and eats a bowl of grass w/ ranch dressing. Gets a call from Davey B himself and flys to Ann Arbor on Monday to taste the turf himself.
but both Les Miles and Bo Pelini are tainted. I don't think either of them make the coach with an appropriate public image requirement, so I really hope we don't go there.
Additionally on Pelini, to take a swipe at Nebraska's head coach right as they join the conference would be a jerk move (which I don't see DB doing), and Pelini has turned in some good, but not great seasons - I'd want to see some offensive success. Also, Pelini and Nebraska seem to be having issues - I don't think we want those issues.
I am not wild about Hoke, but I'd rather have Hoke than either of the other two.
Who cares about the jerk move? Pelini is just a plain jerk of a guy. I would hate to see him on our sideline.
Carl Pelini started going after fans and media members on the field after NU lost to A&M. I don't want the Pelini brothers coaching Michigan
Why not? Frankly, our fanbase needs its ass kicked.
i could +1 you
to coddle and nurture our players and calmly discuss the reasoning of the officials on the field, ya jackwagon.
j/k I changed my mind when you brought up his brother. I don't want the Sons of Woody here.
rule out two of the best options. Lame dude. Pelini is fiery, that's how he coaches. Guess what? He gets it done. So does Miles. Can't really argue with that. There's always guys who haven't proven anything though (e.g. Hoke).....they may be "nicer" to everyone. Geez, this is football, not the peace corps.
I think we have learned by now that it is not just how good a coach the candidate is, but how well that coach will be accepted by the fan base. If we bring in Pelini, with the issues he's already having at Nebraska - I would be concerned that he'll be perceived with the same controversy baggage that Rich had.
I believe Les Miles would be pilloried for ethics by the press as well.
multiple bizare stories about his exit from A2, the recruit who claimed Miles told him Carr had Parkinson's, the incredibly bizarre roster/scholarship antics that would have gotten RR shot, the whole "Mad Hatter" shtick.....
I'm just happy that mgoboard is functioning like haloscan at this point.
Nothing like a coaching search to show the Michigan fanbase at its absolute finest. I fondly remember the mania of December 2007, with 1000+ post haloscan threads. And no logins! Handlejacking ran rampant!
Oh, the nostalgia
In my mind, I thought we would have a coach by Saturday, which is not looking good. This can't drag out much longer I wouldn't think but the way things have been going I would have to say throw out all logical reasoning. Which still means Les Miles is not coming to Ann Harbor.
Luck just announced he is staying at Stanford so JH knows he should have at least another decent year, and similar options a year from now. I think our optimal situation would have been to have RR coming back for one more year, and our options would have been just as good as now. Thinking Meyer will likely take the year off.
Here's what is obviously going to happen:
Luck is just a brainy kid. He has crazy QB talent, but all he really wants is degrees. So he's going to stay at Stanford next year on that premise alone, and will submit his transfer papers to "Harvard-West" along with accelerated grad program paperwork with haste. Meanwhile JH comes to Michigan to salvage the program. By Spring of 2012, Luck has his architecture degree, but he's obviously haunted by the thought of making millions of NFL dollars without the fallback options of a Masters or Ph.D. He's accepted for enrollment at Michigan and enters the 2012 class with a year of eligibility left. Denard, Tate and Devin stick around because the reality of what is occurring is absurd and amazing.
Now it's 2012. JH has had 2011 to turn his fleet-footed O-line and D-line into stout trenchmen. He's got Luck at starting QB, Denard lining up left of center to take direct snaps, Tate a worthy backup, and Devin in the wings. Hopkins is a breakout running back at this point in his career, and Justice Hayes is every ounce as awesome as his G.I. Joe action figure name implies. And Michigan can play defense a little bit.
National Championships follow, and Ann Arbor soars. The End.
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that we start hearing Michigans chances start to rise. Brandon is no dummy like many have called him for the early reports of Hoke and no Jimmy. He knew he would get his shot and I think Ross may have also given some good words about M. Love our chances know that he hasn't signed with the NFL yet. I figured Friday would be the day when Brandon said this week was when it starts.
Brandon might actually be a dummy, but I agree. First Harbaugh had "indicated plans to accept" Stanford's extension. Then he was "impossible to pry" from Michigan. Then he was signed, sealed, delivered to the 49ers. Then the Dolphins gave him all the money in Uganda. Now he's going back to Stanford and meeting with the Broncos at the same time.
There are two people whom we cannot expect to be named head coach at Michigan: Harbaugh and Not Harbaugh.
when DB steps up to the podium on Monday and announces that the Mad Hatter is our new HC?
Forget that. Make him go to grade school to learn how to count...
Taught by Andy Reid or D McNabb.
At least I can find some peace with myself at that point. Really I think he is our best bet for making that big splash right away. He's crazy but he wins and his defense does not give up 450 ypg.
He has won almost 80% of his games at LSU and he's 10-2 this year with his players. He might even be better than Harbaugh (I know that few will believe this)
Plus, he is entertaining as hell and he will help kill off some of the blue hair alumni when he does the place holder over the head backwards bounce pass to the kicker on 4th and 30 from our 2 yard line....(based on a true story but kinda like movies.....)
one thing about Miles here is that is not very good in rivalry games. AR is to LSU what tO$U is to us and since 2007 they have only beat the piggies 1 time, and that was during the first year under Petrino. Mallet was taking his mandatory red-shirt year and they still had Casey Dick slinging the ball to anyone that wasn't wearing a helmet with a pig on it. As good as LSU was in 07 they still lost to AR and that was even twhile Houston Nutt was still there.
But I'd much rather have a coach that I could have respect for. As much as I don't want Hoke, I'd feel better losing with him than I would winning with a sleazy guy like Miles. I can stand the pain of watching us lose under a good man (barely), I can't stand to watch us win under a (imo) shady and dishonorable man.
Miles doesn't have any NCAA violations under his belt. As long as that remains true, I fail to see how you can call him "sleazy". Every coach at a major program in NCAA football/basketball does things that seem "sleazy". So as far as respecting Miles, any coach at Michigan will have my respect as long as they win and don't receive any violations.
of sleazy. RR got violations.......for stretching. Nick Saban has not had any violations despite forcing 10 times as many kids into medical redshirts. Tressell has not had any violations despite the fact that there's a long line of evidence, from T. Smith to Clarrett to Pryor that tOSU players receive a little extra. Mike Leach has not had any violations despite locking a kid in a closet.
In my mind these things don't just "seem sleazy". They are sleazy. And regardless of what you felt about RR's coaching ability, there is very little to suggest he was sleazy.
So NCAA violations are a pretty poor barometer in the abstract.
What keeps Beilein at Michigan is that he has had success without violations. No other UM coach has done that over the last 20 years. Why do people insist that our basketball program can do better? Bad facilities, stiff in-state competition, and a lack of recent success make recruiting difficult. We are just starting to get those things turned around.
Ability to adapt. When the team stagnated last year, he correctly identified what hte problems were and started over with his assistant coaches.
Rodriguez was never able to do that, sadly.
Aside from if we had a true slimeball like Calipari or Pitino, the recruiting classes Beilein has gotten for 2010 and 2011 are about as good as could be expected from any program coming off the mediocrity that our program has had the past 12 years. If this young Michigan team continues to improve over the next couple seasons (seems likely), the recruiting classes will keep getting better. Combine that with the new practice facility and it's pretty easy to see the upward mobility of Michigan BB.
Or are you just a fan of it's sports teams?
I just want to know how ashamed of you I should be. Character is what you do when no one is looking. And if you're a fan of the program rebuilt under Bo and carried through Lloyd (and Rich) and you value an extra win or two over character, then you weren't paying attention.
but I dont seem to be able to. also not a MIles fan, and knew him back in the day.
My wish list would be
Jerry Moore (yea, him and his multiple Nat Champs)
Next Wednesday the ealiest due to state law about posting a job for a week.
If nothing else, he doesn't claim to have inside information, just his opinion based on experience and what we suspects:
... a UM alum who doesn't use it as a club or a shield.
1. Don't chase flavor of the week: scratch Harbaugh.
2. Don't chase other B1G coaches: scratch Fitz and Bangin' Bo (NNTB).
3. Don't chase gimmick lifers: scratch Patterson and Petersen.
4. Don't chase old NFL coaches: scratch a lot.
6. Don't chase idiots: scratch Miles.
7. Don't chase only people who have run through the tunnel at the Big House.
So to me, the answer is clear, and he's on the temporary site banner, albeit offensively.
Michigan doesn't need a "name" coach to help the program. The best coaches have always been from the outside, sometimes with archrival lineage. They have been leaders on the way up, not lateral hires.
The "Save us Jim" contingent has been embarrassing and I am confident Brandon saw this. I just hope he can resist Les Miles, because he would be an absolute disaster.
The good news to me: apparently Barwis may stay. Mike Barwis with a plastic fork is all anyone needs to be led into battle.
What exactly is gimmicky about Gary Patterson? His "good defense" gimmick doesn't pass the smell test to you?
If you want a leader on the way up, I'd suggest Charlie Strong over Brady Hoke, also.
I don't see Patterson and Peterson as 'gimmick lifers'. Unless Patterson's gimmick is playing good defense, that is.
Bringing back Sporano shocked me, so either Harbaugh had a really bad interview or Miami had this in mind all of the time. I do think that Luck coming back will be a major feather in the cap for Stanford, but Harbaugh also knows that the UM job won't be available next year and who knows how high his stock would be if the Cardinal "struggled" next year to 9-4, 10-3, 11-2 etc. record. It wouldn't take much. I am not a huge fan of JH, but if you fired RR then you have to get him.
Harbaugh wanted total control and they didn't want to fire their GM.
I can think of two places where he can have total control, and neither of them is in the NFL.
I'm not a fan of his, but I'll say this for Harbaugh . . . He's got some balls! To have absolutely no NFL experience and go into an interview demanding complete control is borderline crazy. I know he's a hot commodity, but come on. That's crazy talk.
but maybe he was asking that because he hasn't convinced himself he wants to go to the NFL yet. Perhaps he figured if they give it to me, I'll take the job but if they don't, I still have lots of other options.
My totally worthless guess is that JH has realized that the NFL is always going to be there. There are usually at least 6-10 coaching changes each year in the NFL and I don't think Harbaugh particularly cares where he goes once he makes the jump.
UM on the other hand, may indeed be his dream job. This job doesn't come around every year and for JH, this could very well be his only shot at it (and lets not pretend that its not his for the taking). I am not a big fan of the guy and would have rather had RR for another year, but at this point for me...I want either JH, GPatterson, Dan Mullen or John Gruden in that order.
I am hoping JH has realized he can make the jump to the NFL anytime, but UM won't come knocking again so he jumps at it now. Either way I guess we'll see before too much longer.
I, as well, agree with you. I think this is Harbaugh's only chance. If he wants to coach at Michigan he's got to jump at it. The problem with that, as others have said, is that if his ultimate dream is the NFL then Michigan risks losing him in the near (?) future. Not that it deters Michigan from hiring him if he's available.
I think I prefer Boise's coach. I can't imagine he wouldn't leave if Michigan throws serious money on the table. I mean, who wants to live in Idaho and stare at that blue field all day?
is potentially an unnecessary one. Assume JH struggles for a few years here. He won't be a hot property for the NFL (there will be a new "hot" coach by then), and he won't have the options he appears to have today. If he does great over the next 3 years and Michigan is back, I am OK with him moving on to the NFL because we will be arguably the hottest college team to coach. Or he won't leave because he is having success here. I am not that worried about it.
From every indication so far........Peterson does. He seems happy there and I think he's noticed the struggles of his predecessors. Plus there has to be some reason every friend of mine who has moved to Boise(I'm originally from NE Nevada) has fallen in love with the place.
I think the places where NFL coaches do not have total control, are the ones that are screwed up - at least most of the time. Dallas for example is an ongoing saga. All the money in the world, but say one wrong word around Jerry, or disagree with Jerry's direction and your gone. (It's like watching The Apprentice.) Same with the Redskins - everyone in DC knows the skins will never be back until there is a change in ownership.
I am wondering if, as Jim interviews, he's getting an education on what it would be like to be an NFL coach, versus sitting on his golden throne at a university.
(I am hoping Ross laid it out for him - the economics, risks, and control conflicts - and Jim is now reconsidering his options.)
That said, I also think he has family issues with moving to Ann Arbor. Don't get me wrong, I love Ann Arbor, and I would really like to be that close to The University and Michigan football again, but I also remember the snow, cold, and gray skies from Thanksgiving to just before finals. If your family is used to Palo Alto, and the money offered is competitive, and your golden throne is already in place, it is going to be real hard to convince the family to move to Ann Arbor.
Of course, after the Orange Bowl, his wife was crying. They didn't look like tears of joy and accomplishment so much as they looked like "this is the end, the last time here, and now everything is going to change" ... pure conjecture I know.
Total control with an interfering owner. Most coaches aren't GM's too, and there's a list of great coaches who get total power somewhere and then fail. But an owner who has to tinker with EVERYTHING is almost never good.
Im not sure how orchestrated all this is by Harbaugh, can't imagine he could forsee all these events falling in place to give him such leverage but I'm wondering if he sees that Stanford has the potential to be the Duke of major college football. Luck staying proves that potential. He can get the smart, high-end 4 year type guys and build a dynasty out there with a wealthy alumni base. Coach K does pretty well money-wise also.
You need a lot more of those guys in football than in bball. California's a good place to look for them but you still have to compete against 3 really good institutions that are just a step down academically (Cal, USC and UCLA).
Now if Harbaugh can get them to move Stanford to Florida...
Which of these three is "a step down academically"--and from whom? Michigan?
Academically, Cal is almost always rated ahead of Michigan. It is the best public university in the country by most rankings.
Recently, UCLA has pulled ahead of Michigan in the US News ranking. In any case, UCLA is very strong academically and probably ranks with UM. USC is not as strong academically.
I don't put much confidence in the US News rankings, but it is widely followed and known.
I think Needs was comparing UCLA, Cal and USC to Stanford; not Michigan.
The poster you replied to was saying that the three other institutions in California were a slight step down from Stanford, not Michigan. No need to go on a rage listing schools that are better or as good as Michigan academically.
Hasn't Notre Dame been applying a similar method to their teams?
I'm not saying Stanford is, or wil be, ND, but recruiting the "smart kids" only goes so far.
Many of those guys are at their peak coming into college and don't progress as well as the "raw" athletic types.
What an asinine thing to say. It is the equivalent of saying many those "raw" athletic types cannot progress academically in a University.
There are athletes in this world, who are also smart.
I'm aware of that. And that's not entirely what I'm saying - maybe I phrased it poorly.
But, I think you're lying to yourself if you think everyone has the same ability to progress physically, or academically.
There are individuals who are limited in each sense of the word.
book it, bank it, whatever.
Melanie Collins will be getting picture texts of Favre's junk?
The term is "BKFinest It!"
I live in Columbus, sadly, and this morning on my drive to work, I noticed a relatively large osu magnet on the back of a car in the lane next to me, then I noticed that the same car also had a similarly large MSU magnet on it, then I noticed that the car had Michigan license plates.
I expect Ohio cars to bear osu magnets, and I understand if someone from Michigan supports MSU, but for someone from Michigan to support both MSU and osu (and given the state of our beloved program); that blew my lid.
I drove next to the guy started honking my horn and flicking him off. I felt a little immature at first, then I felt rage, then I was a little embarrased that he would see me and I would look like a nutcase jerk, then in the rush of traffic he didn't see me and I felt better about just flicking him off.
I know lots of people in Ohio that root for Michigan, but I have never known anyone from Michigan to root for osu.
Happy Friday everyone!
Oh yeah, DB, stop letting Carr run your department, don't listen to MSC's issues with Harbaugh, and go fucking get Harbaugh!
A house divided situation....it happens.
I think you were justified in how you reacted. "Brag tags" are an invitation to honk in agreement or disagreement.
That said, what would be the appropriate response if the guy had, in addition to the OSU and MSU sticker, a Notre Dame sticker? Could there be any worse enemy to the Michigan program than that guy? Would a Michigan fan be justified in side-swiping the guy and putting him into the median, GTA style?
Has a license plate that reads MSU OSU. I think I saw it somewhere in Dublin/Hilliard area. Hope they never invite me over for tea.
Now is the Winter of our discontent
Made a laborious bummer by this son of Yore;
And all the clouds lour'd oe'r the Big House
In the deed Bo's UM on the morrow buried
Who's willing to earn his Block M and put an end to all this by pulling a Jeff Gillooly on Andrew Luck?
You are getting what your impatience with RR asked for. Enjoy!!!
I think many people were choosing between RR and JH, and were pulling for RR to go so JH could step in. I highly doubt that most of the RR impatience would have forseen this coaching search happening. I would believe many of their opinions would change in hindsight.
Love how you listed seven straight losses in RR's resume. Truth is, psychologically anyway, the streak and even The Horror blended in for a lot of people and they put all the blame on him. Maybe those events were just evidence that the ship was sinking long before he got here and the other items on your list really weren't on him.
Give it a rest. We're sorry that it's awkward with your username and all. But this decision was DB's, and it was as much about results on the field, cultural fit, and brand damage as it was about impatience. You (and almost all of us, really) have no idea what went on behind closed doors in Tuesday's meeting. For all we know, DB gave RR an opportunity to stay, and RR refused to cut loose his D-coach buddies.
What's done is done. Sniping "I told you so!" from the sidelines -- before the new coach is even hired -- is mildly annoying.
I agree with everything you said, except for the use of the modifier "mildly".
Having told you so is a good reason to say I told you so. I think I'll wait til next year, and the one after that, and especially, the one after that to actually tell you so.
Looking forward to the team failing for three years so that you can gloat? Thanks, douchebag!
...You may like RR and that's fine, I did too. But he's gone, and he isn't coming back. So dump the uppity attitude and try and provide something actually useful to the conversation. We're getting a new coach, deal with it.
is not aided by people keeping their feelings inside themselves. It's aided by people incessantly bitching about what has happened until they can accept that it has happened and understanding there's no way to change it. In fact, if Michigan's team experiences a large volume of transfers and/or has a mediocre record next year, that may only serve to re-surface the grief people feel for the program right now, so expect more bitching like this if the new coach wants to rebuild the program to suit his own style. Thus, he is "dealing with it" in the best way possible. RichRodFollower, do not stop by all means.
And "provide something actually useful to the conversation"? Like what, more meaningless speculation as to whom Dave Brandon will hire or which/how many players will transfer from the program? Yeah, I can see your point; that's SOOO meaningful.
There's a difference between expressing grief and the "I told you so" attitude the other poster showed. I was trying to sugarcoat it but since that apparently get across, I'll make it simpler. That "I told you so" attitude makes him a dick. That better?
finally ready to move on from JH, and now this. Just when I thought I was out, he pulled me back in!
JH....I can't quit you!!
1. Check MGoBlog at home and then upon arriving at work - Done - No new news since 3 AM
2. Check Twitter - Done - Nothing new
3. Think about time wasted since Tuesday and realize it has been a long week - Done - That was depressing
4. Remember that I have a job and family that need me and that I need to get my priorities in order - Wake Up Call
5. Forgot Mobile Phone at Home - Good Subliminal move - One more way to avoid Twitter and MGoBlog
6. Go to IT Manager at work - Ask him to block MGoBlog and ESPN.com access to work PC so I can get my life back on track - Done
7. Plan to get back to MGoBlog, Twitter, et. al. later tonight to see what new surprises transpired in the past 10 hours.
Have a great day watching the drama ladies and gentlemen.
You want it.
for planning my day for me. If I could +1 you, I would. I imagine this will be the results of my days until we know something for certain. But then there will be recruiting to check on, etc etc
Anyone have a 12 step manual?
APE Report/No work will get done in my office today.
They are speculating as much as us, JH to UM/Stan plus the Miami interview being a pot sweetener to AA. They also are throwing around John Harbaugh now and some of his staff if they lose to KC this weekend. I guess I'm doing the APE report again.
John Harbaugh staff.(Cam Cameron/Andy Moeller) brian would shit if Moller came back.
Sources are saying Bo Pelini.
-Unhappy with leadership at Nebraska
I would Love this move it would piss off our new rival and our arch enemy. Perhaps this is what D.B. was talking about getting defensive.
Talked about the B.H. and his Oregon O statement that Brian had on the front page and what a bad statement it was.
Forgive grammar/spelling I'm trying to shit this out as quick as possible.
that isn't being discussed is the one where JH decides to come to Michigan but then bolts for the NFL after our whiney, entitled fan base starts giving him grief after a couple of subpar seasons....... Would this be 5 years down the road? 10 years? Maybe it will never happen, but it will always be an option for him, and it will always be in the back of his mind.
I'll have to check, but all signs point to you being officially a jackass!
who did not get the answer she wanted when she asked her husband if her ass looked fat in the dress she was wearing.
Reality can be painful sometimes.
I wish I could hate you for being so negative but I can't help feel the same way, deep down in the depths of my gut. Its probably just because I don't like Harbaugh but I just feel all kinds of bad karma floating around the program right now. Even though they just did the same thing 3 years ago, I think its time to start fresh and try the experiment again, going in knowing the pitfalls that come from doing so.
Like the reality that the defense was historically bad and got worse from year to year, or the reality that the "exciting" offense got curb stomped by any defense with a pulse, or the reality that the team got destroyed against Mississippi State.
You're right those realities were painful and there really was no definable sign of progress to make anyone think those realities were going to change in the near future. I think RR is a good person and I wanted him to succeed, but he didn't and it's better to acknowledge it and move on.
DB isn't helping matters by having a "unique" coach searching process that is confusing and frustrating everyone, but in the end this is the move that had to happen.
RR is gone. I'm not making a case for his return, nor was I hoping to revive a pointless debate.
The comment is regarding our fan base. They publicly turned on RR. They publicly turned on Carr. There will be a point, whether it's in the first couple of years or sometime down the road, where fans will publicly bemoan Harbaugh's coaching.
I'm not as confident as others are that he will stay loyal to Michigan, considering his past comments, and considering that he is apparently at least as interested in going to the NFL as he is in taking over at Michigan, in a time where people are basically begging him to come to Ann Arbor. The NFL offers aren't going to go away, and if he isn't feeling the love, it wouldn't surprise me if he took one.
In my wish list, JH doesn't make the top 3.
1. We know that Stephen Ross flew to California, we don't know who was on the plane. The meeting had a media blackout.
2. Stanford and Jim Harbough state no comment on when asked if Michigan has asked for permission to speak with Harbaugh.
3. This was the biggest clue. Jim Harbaugh goes to Stanford President for his best offer. Well don't we kind of know that this was not for a competing salary with the NFL. I would have to think that another college is involved in this decision.
As we all know the media blows everything out of proportion and spread gossip worse than mgoblog or any other source out there.
I believe that Jim Harbaught has been and is still in the running for Michigan and it is just being kept quiet.
Maybe just WISHING ALOT !!!!!!!
I'm still hopeful, especially after readong your point #3. I'd +1 you but for some reason I can't posbang anyone.
It's been a running problem lately. Yesterday featured the least successful mass posbang thread ever attempted.
I will tend to agree with you. I at least hope that we are still in the running for JH. I definitely don't want Miles as HC because he will bring problems with the NCAA with him. Please JH please come to Michigan so that we can move on and get this next season going.
We know his heart is Michigan Football and the NFL, split 50/50 maybe even 60/40. If he doesn't go to the NFL I really believe he coming Home to Michigan.
The only thing that is really going on is that no one knows anything for sure so it is all speculation.
Seriously are the Dolphin's going to offer 8 mil yesterday and have the offer off the table by morning. I really believe that what is going on is negotiations with the U of M at the present time and we will se him on the sidelines this fall.
Yeah like I posted somewhere on this thread, I think DB is keeping this as quiet as possible just like he did with RR. I believe it is more beneficial right now to keep quiet so that it is easier to communicate with everyone he is looking at hiring as HC. A decision will be made, but it may take longer than we want it to. I just hope JH comes to Michigan so that we can move on.
But I think we're still in it. NONE of these rumors have come from Harbaugh's camp or DB, who have been VERY quiet throughout this process...Meaning, these rumors don't mean shit and these media outlets are running with anything cause this is the biggest story out there!
I have been arguing with 2 friends all week and fighting the urge to punch one after receiving "See, I told you so...He signed with the 49ers/Dolphins/going to NFL" email 10 times per day.
I'm sure none of us know shit, especially the media. The thing that catches my eye is how extremely quiet things have been between UM & Harbaugh camp with a lot of false noise related to every other situation. Also, you KNOW Steve Ross put in a good word to Jimbo, he's highly vested in the UM football program and has the freakin business school named after him. I'm hoping he said he'll make it rain for JH if he comes home!
That is the money allocated for coordinators and assistants. We need to make sure we are also able to pay good money to lure good coordinators and assistants here for whomever the head coach ends up being.
Ross had already said he wasn't going to pursue Harbaugh for the Miami position. It makes me wonder what they had to talk about. I hope it went down like this:
Ross: I know you can make more money in the NFL than you can in college.
Ross: Look around for the highest offer and whatever it is I will make sure it is matched by Michigan. Sound good?
Ross: God bless you son, your a Michigan man through and through.
As implausible as this whole thing sounds isn't there a part in all of us that believes this could happen?
Is Harbaugh THE KNOWLEDGE?
+1 if i could
but Barwis stays.
If JH is spurning Miami and SF, and Denver doesn't have the dough and too many overlords as well, that must mean we're getting JH! After all, when I suggested JH could end up staying at Standford, aaamichfan said I hadn't been paying attention, b/c if I had I would know that that was the one thing JH wasn't going to do. Great day for us dawning right now.
Standford? I am still in the gray zone between last night's Fat Tires and this morning's espressos.
Why would anyone want to coach at a school that cannot even fill their stadium?
Their stadium is small, only seats 50K, and they, on average, get only 40K to show up. Their season ticket sales have barely increased in many years, even during this upswing.
They just don't care about football!
That would depend on where Harbaugh's balance between inheriting and building lies, would it not?
The streak of consecutive sellouts at Michigan Stadium, I should remind you, does not stretch back to Bo's first game, let alone farther. The current streak of ssellouts stretches back only ("only") to 1975.
Brandon should interview John Harbaugh just to make Jim jealous. Might be enough to cause Jim to reconsider.
Just interview Pete Carroll then. And make sure Harbaugh knows about it.
You are a genius, my man. No one in the cyberblogosphere has floated this idea, and now that you do, it looks so damned obvious. Hell yeah, get us a Harbaugh, there are multiple to choose from. What's Jack up to these days? He also has a sister, doesn't he? What's her buyout?
I think he should interview me to make Jim jealous. I am a legend on my NCAA '08 dynasty.
My ridiculous fantasy is for UM to actually hire John Harbaugh, then see him succeed and make Jim's head explode.
John seems like the more likeable of the two, to me. He's got a much more impressive resume, too.
Harbaugh to UofM or he will stay at Stanford, especially with Luck staying, now the salary is way up, and he possibly can win a National Championship.
To many signs showing that he may stay in college rather than the NFL, with his NFL interviews it appears like he is just out to raise his salary stakes, the Miami Dolphins owner is a UofM grad, Stephen Ross is his name, just recently declined Harbaugh’s coaching candidacy, at one point early in this coaching change process there were rumors that Ross said he wouldn’t get between his Alma mater’s hiring of Harbaugh so I find it curious as that is what just took place.
The San Francisco 49’ers are slightly ahead of both Stanford and UofM’s offers of which both schools most definitely could match NFL teams offers with salary and with grad donors such as people at the level of Ross etc. and I wouldn’t doubt if that is what is going on.
If not Harbaugh, my choices now are: Dan Mullen or Gary Patterson … screw the Michigan man thing. Miles has too much baggage and Hoke is too much of a risk.
Got this on the Scout board
I think if Harbaugh were coming he'd be here by now
if Harbaugh REALLY wanted the 49er's gig, why hasn't he taken it yet?? He knows what their offer is....if that's the job he really wants, why hasn't he accepted yet??
I'll concede that he had to meet w/ Miami and maybe he still wants to see what Denver has to offer, but maybe now that he has seen what these NFL teams are willing to offer, the UM job doesn't look so bad in comparision. I know if I were looking at a team with a QB situation as murky as SF's (Alex Smith, Troy Smith...bleh), I'd have some reservations.
I think every day that goes by the JH does not sign w/ an NFL makes the odds of him ending up in AA greater. I'm not saying the odds are great right now, but each day he remains unsigned, the more likely he might end up in Ann Arbor.
I'm at work, which is boring and shitty as usual. I bought some new gloves today on woot.com
Working on planning my future borther-in-law's bachelor party
Confused as hell about the coaching search and REALLY hoping that we don't fuck it up any worse than we have. I was in the Harbaugh or Keep Rich camp... and now it sounds like that just aint gonna happen.
I'd take John Harbaugh though - who according to reports has contacted U of M. In general though, I wont believe anything until Brian writes it or Dave Brandon is quoted on the record
Who plans a bachelor party for their (future) brother-in-law?
Older sister met a South African boy while they were both studying abroad for grad school. Wedding is back home in Chicago. He/his friends don't know where to go/what to do, so my friends and I are planning it
i think if Harbaugh were coming he'd be here by now
Umich can't hire anyone until next Wednesday. Job must be open for a week by state law.
Random post for this thread, but here's another name to think about: Jeff Jagodzinski, former coach at BC. What I know about him is that he's a 47 year old, MidWest guy with both college & NFL experience. He had success with Matt Ryan as his quarterback, but has struggled in recent NFL and UFL jobs. Is he worth considering? (I don't know enough about his football philosophy to have a credible opinion.)
This is all set up nicely to announce at halftime on Sunday. "introducing... the next football coach... for the University of Michigan!"
Come on, the place would explode.
Ha, posted mine just after yours ... will definitely be watching the KU game tomorrow if we don't hear anything more definitive.
in a trailer down by the river?
I think he had to sell the trailer and now only has a van.
Because the rest of us don't get to see it till Sunday in our space-time continuum.
Don't be a jerk, he obviously lives in Australia, where it's Saturday already.
The line between reality and the absurd is blurred beyond recognition now, so what the heck: Maybe Bowlsby (Stanford AD) talked Luck into saying he's staying to entice JH to listen to a new offer. If JH still says "no thanks," Luck has until January 15 to declare what he's really doing. Why wouldn't he have taken that extra week to decide?
Which means Jim Harbaugh could come to Michigan after having done a THOROUGH evaluation of all possible options including his current school and three storied NFL franchises: One in his Bay Area backyard, one with a Michigan alum owner, and one with a Stanford hero alum (uh) consultant/front office guy. "No one can claim that I didn't do my homework before making this decision ... but I am a Michigan Man."
Didn't I see a rumor posted that Harbaugh would be announced at halftime of tomorrow's Kansas MBB game? Imagine... "Is this heaven?" "No ... it's Michigan."
The Kansas game is on Sunday at 4.
says search firm being brought in.
Contrary to press conference, but also confirmed by Brandon.
Sorry if posted already, lack the time to scroll through every post.
Like he is hiring a district manager of marketing for dominos?
article says this is standard, so maybe I am disregarding the difference between "search firm" and "search committee"
I don't know what the heck is going on!
A search firm and a search committee are indeed entirely different entities. See below from a Chengelis article from today. No one should conclude that because he's using an outside search firm that the time frame for making a decision has suddenly been lengthened. In fact, this could help speed up the process.
Michigan athletic director Dave Brandon is not creating a search committee to find the Wolverines' next football coach, but he has hired a search firm.
Brandon announced Wednesday the firing of Rich Rodriguez, who was 15-22 in three seasons at Michigan. Brandon said during the news conference he plans to move expeditiously to hire a coach, but made clear that while he welcomes input, he will be the one making the decision.
"I am using external resources," Brandon said in an e-mail.
Using a search firm allows an athletic director to contact coaches through a third party, thus showing a bit of discretion.
Search firms are not a part of the decision-making process, but they often do the legwork, gauging interest of potential candidates employed by other schools.
This makes me feel less like jumping off a bridge.
The fact that we're getting a search firm in JANUARY has me pretty distressed.
Search firms also typically vets a candidate.
The flow here is that Brandon will say to the search firm "What about Coach X" and the firm will investigate and report one of the following:
A) X has no interest
B) X has a skeleton in his closet
C) X has interest, here is where negotiations start
If a search firm is actually being used, I think we can deduce that the obvious candidates (Miles and Hoke) are ruled out at this point. It indicates that Brandon is probably going to try to hire somebody he's not personally connected to.
I think you're right about vetting being part of what a search firm is likely to do, but I don't agree with your conclusion about Miles and Hoke. Regardless of how well Brandon personally knows a candidate, he still needs a third-party to vet that person and also--as you suggest with point C--to provide advice on the negotiations.
The search firm is evidence that Miles and Hoke are not the top targets, but it doesn't follow that they have been ruled out. We will probably end up settling for one of them if all the A-list guys turned us down. Hoke would definitely accept, and I think Miles would accept if he thinks he's on thin ice at LSU.
Search Firm = Deflecting Blame
Well I didn't pick the guy it was the damn search firms fault.
It's about using people who have some expertise in the area and covering alot of ground fast. - working smarter. I'd be concerned if there weren't an external firm helping out.
70% chance it's Hoke - the safe choice (to DB) says he wants to come here
25% chance it's Miles - the risky bold choice (to DB) says he wants to come here
5% someone else - nobody else looks like they want to come here or leave current team
the search firm if it is Hoke? Hoke would crawl here if Brandon just called him....I think the longer this goes the less it looks like Hoke. At least this is what I tell myself so I can sleep at night.
Hoke is a nice option to sit on. DB knows if all the options fall by the wayside, he still can get Hoke here. The longer this goes, the less successful the search has been in finding a candidate with mutual interest. With signing day coming soon, at some point DB has to say "To hell with it, call Hoke."
I personally think it would be better to sacrifice this one recruiting class for doing this right and taking 2 weeks if needed.
How am I supposed to concentrate at school while all of this is going on?
It appears to me that the one job Harbaugh has not seriously considered at all is Michigan. It sure sounds like he'll meet with almost anyone else, but there has never been a single word of any meeting with Michigan, has there? Or are we just assuming that there would be no need for a face-to-face? I would think DB would want to sit down with him if DB considered him a candidate, even if a likely unattainable/longshot one. Did he reject even a courtesy meeting?
If there's one thing at all I feel certain about, it's that DB will not make an offer to anyone until they've been thoroughly vetted and he's had a chance to fully interview them face to face.
To me, that is like saying you are certain the sun will come up tomorrow. I feel fairly certain that Brandon is not a total idiot and is actually considering all options. That said, do we truly know for certain that the sun will really come up tomorrow?
Clearly there are more than a few folks posting recently who suspect the Sun may not come up tomorrow.
the Broncos are on the clock, Stanford is waiting to keep their coach and according to all media outlets Michigan is not communicating with JH. Supposedly, Michigan reached out to JH and he has not responded.
The only thing that is fo sho is that you can't believe most of what you hear and read.
There's some old saying about silence being golden.
It ain't over yet and I think DB is truly working it all behind the scenes.
Yeah, but the Luck development yesterday seems like an ominous one for us.
Though now CFT is saying JH's asst head coach is a candidate at Pitt, so it's not a given that the whole gang is totally on board for next season on Stanford.
Though it does sound like Roman is and has been iso a HC gig.
He shouldn't have an option! Every M alum and fan on this planet should be pushing every button, calling in every contact, making every move possible to convince him to come.
Be prepared to scour the earth for that motherfucker. If JH goes to Indochina, I want an alum waiting in a bowl of rice ready to pop a cap in his ass.
I'm not going to lift a finger to get Harbaugh. I'll sooner call John Fox (he's a fellow NCian).
That's pride F'in with you.
The past couple days I've heard people say "I just got word JH is in principle with 49ers/Dolphins." I think DB is playing this as closest to the vest as possible. Just gotta be patient, and until we hear JH say it specifically himself he doesn't want to come here, we will have a chance with him. Right now what everybody else is saying, is just speculation.
Actually, what I'm saying is based on careful and obsessive reading of internet tea leaves through maize-colored glasses. That's different from speculation. Somehow.
Yeah I think that DB is just trying to keep this as quiet as possible just like he did when it came to firing RR. We will find out but I hope it is soon. This is killing us.
- Looks like Fitz is out (his statement), Peterson isn't interested, and Patterson hasn't been contacted. Doesn't sound like any movement on Mullen, Strong, Tubberville either.
- Harbaugh's options now appear to be (in no particular order): (1) stay at Stanford (Luck's coming back); (2) Go to 49ers for more money than Stanford but not as much as he probably though he'd be getting 24 hrs ago (Dolphins and Dallas kept their coaches who would have been the big money raisers in the poker game); (3) Go to the Raiders if he's batshit crazy; (4) or come to Michigan for more money than Stanford but a definite rebuild job. That's really about it.
- Miles plays tonight. If he's truly in play, we'll find out by tomorrow afteroon I'd think
- Hoke is still standing by, likely with a cast of former Michigan ass'ts waiting to join him
The Raiders don't pay coaches big money, which is part of the reason they've made such "interesting" hires over the past few years. So that's not an option regardless as he'd make more at Stanford or Michigan.
has firgured out he can't handle the heat.
A Michigan or pro job is high $ and high expectations.
At Stanford, they are happy to be in the top 20 and he is already a god there- no pressure.
Maybe, but it would be the first time in his life he wasn't itching to dive head first into the heat. I think Harbaugh disappearing into a Tibetan monastery is more likely than Harbaugh deciding he didn't want to put that kind of target on his back.
I believe this is the primary Factor (more than the $) he is weighing. Where's the biggest, most difficult challenge, that can have the most impact. I believe it is likely he concludes this is Michigan. I don't believe, contrary to much of the conventional wisdom, that money is the primary determinate for him.
ESPN Insider claims that Dave Brandon confirmed by email to them that he is using a search firm. I thought he said he wasn't going to?
Here's part of what I posted above from a Chengelis article from today:
Using a search firm allows an athletic director to contact coaches through a third party, thus showing a bit of discretion.
Search firms are not a part of the decision-making process, but they often do the legwork, gauging interest of potential candidates employed by other schools.
Using an outside search firm would be SOP for someone with Brandon's corporate background. He's still going to be making the ultimate decision on who gets hired. And as I noted above, getting this outside help is likely to speed up the process, not slow it down (the exact opposite of what would happen with a search committee).
DB's likely using a search firm to do a lot of the legwork: due diligence, exploratory phone calls to gauge interest, etc ... I don't think I'd want DB and his staff to be wasting too much time on much of the mundane, unfocused portions of a search.
Players only meeting with D. Molk and RVB leading it.
-They along with T-Wolf and others will have played for three coaches at UM.
-They will be leading by example in weight room for younger guys.
-08' they seniors didn't work out and were not getting ready for new coach.
.....Bo Pelini waits to hear from U of M.
Sherry in 'Logjammin': [on video] You must be here to fix the cable.
Maude Lebowski: Lord. You can imagine where it goes from here.
The Dude: He fixes the cable?
Maude Lebowski: Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey.
This story is ludicrous.
That must be exhausting.
This is crazy, JH was going NFL, no he is not? That would make it seem like we have him, but now he might stay at Stanford? WTF I can't leave the site, I'm searching the internets for info...F I have studying to do, but all I can think about is the coach search.
It will take your mind off it all. We will either get someone from the short list, or it will take three weeks (today is day three). Seems clear that Fitzgerald was first on the list (after Harbaugh) and they have now moved on to Mullen. That could be a fairly short conversation/negotiation -- he has recently studied Michigan's team closely, and the financial stuff should be quite straightforward, new contract and all.
I don't think there is anyone else on the short list after Harbaugh, Fitzgerald, and Mullen, except maybe Patterson and/or Strong? After they call those guys, it will be about arranging interviews for a list of people who are actually interested. I'll guess Keeler will come, Hoke for sure, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear Penn State's Bradley is in the mix if Pitt doesn't take him, because defense, defense, defense.
potato salad is getting big enuf to feed the BIG HOUSE!
If I knew it was going to be this kind of party . . .
Didn't DB say that JH was most likely going to the NFL? Maybe he has no clue either.
Man, screw this guy. I wanted him too, but not anymore. If he doesn't want to be here, or if he is just toying us along to accept our HC job later, let him stay where he is. Go find another guy. There are other guys that will do a great job. I'm not a fan of all these shenanigans.
We just have to be willing to assume a little risk. But it was risky hiring Tressel and he turned out ok. I thought Fitz would have been great. NW would have won 9 games this year if their QB wouldn't have gotten hurt.
But it looks like he's not coming, so I'm pulling for anyone other than Hoke, especially after those spread offense comments.
If you tune out everything else, you'll hear it. It's Bo. He's saying: "Son, Michigan needs you."
My thoughts are that no matter who the new head coach is, he will definitely be introduced to the fans at halftime of the Ohio State basketball game next Wednesday. This satisfies the one week "state job posting rule," and hopefully it will be JH or Miles saying, " Go F yourself Columbus, OH"
It doesn't matter now, whoever comes, the faction will be divided, but we need to get someone in there for recruiting sakes, we cannot wait much longer.
we just don't OFFICIALLY know this yet.
The outside sources that DB used for his search in our new Coach: Stephen Ross.
I really don't believe that Luck staying at Stanford will influence this big of a decision for Harbaugh, this is a life changing decision. I am not concerned with him bolting to the NFL after a couple of season's, afterall now is the perfect time for the NFL for Harbaugh if that is what he wants.
The negotiation's have been and are going on with DB and JH. I have said it before and I will say it again. Why else would Jimmy go back to Stanford for their best offer -- this is at the college level and not competing with the NFL.
We will all see him on the sidelines this fall.
Now this is just POSITIVE THINKING !
It still may happen, but I lose hope with every day. At this point, if he really wanted to come here, he would just be screwing himself over by letting our recruiting class, players, fans, etc. twist in the wind. If he was serious about coming here, I think it would have been known by now. He really doesn't gain alot by flirting with NFL teams at this point if he was commited to UM. I can also see him wanting to stay at Stanford with Luck because he could take a legitamate title run.
watching the media make absolute fools of themselves. Everybody is trying to out-do each other as to what JH and Michigan are going to do. These people know NOTHING. DB and JH are great poker players ... cause neither is flinching at all .... and that's driving the meda crazy !!!
C'mon people ... have some faith here.
Go Blue !
I'd like to see Harbaugh accept because that would send such a huge positive signal that Michigan is back. Will it happen?
I've got no idea. I went from undergrad at Michigan to graduate school at Berkeley a long time ago (1964), and eventually moved back to the midwest. Since then, everything has changed. The Bay Area today has too many people, horribly deadlocked freeways, and ridiculous real estate prices.
But--and this is a big "but"--if you've got the money, it is still a fabulous place to live. And one of the most fabulous places is Palo Alto. Stanford University --affectionately known to locals as "the Farm"-- is almost a gated community unto itself, with extremely bright students and the best faculty that money can buy. Great climate, campus. It's a hard place to resist.
In short, Jim Harbaugh's California roots may play a much bigger role in his decision to coach or not coach at Michigan than you might suspect. Or to paraphrase an old song, "How you going to get him, back to the Arb, after he's lived on the Farm"?
If you are a college coach and have NFL dreams, staying one year at Stanford is not a bad thing at all. There will always be at least one NFL job open (right?) and Harbaugh could easily coach his own team at Stanford with a stud QB for one more year. If I was in Boise State I might think differently (no offense to Idahoians). But Palo Alto is a top-notch place to be.
How you gonna keep 'em on the farm once he's seen Karl Hungus?
. . . the extent to which quality of life plays a role in coaches' decisions to move. In my mind, Ann Arbor would be a much, much more attractive place to live than Starkville, Mississippi. It has Zingerman's, afterall. Not to mention hockey. But Palo Alto? Only the most obstinate of Michigan patriots could insist that the idea of life on a big salary in the San Francisco area isn't seductive.
reports that Brandon continues his search for a new coach for Michigan's "men's football team." Didn't know there was a women's team, but perhaps with the state of journalism swirling around this program they felt it important to be very specific to prevent confusion and twisting of data.
Those wanting/needing a break from the coaching search might want to check out Mick McCabe's article from the Free Press on Carlton Brundidge and his high-achieving family:
Carlton is not exactly a struggling student. He has a 3.5 at Southfield and is signed to play basketball at Michigan.
Despite his status as one of the top players in the country, he probably will never be the best athlete in the family.
His father, Clennie, was an All-America tight end and also played four years of college basketball. And like his wife, Debra, he was a good student.
"My dad was real good in academics," Carlton said. " He went to West Point, and you've got to be smart to get into West Point. My mom's GPA was high, also."
The basketball coach at West Point then was a young West Point graduate in his first college head coaching job -- Mike Krzyzewski.
Carlton Brundidge to coach Michigan football
Has anyone given thought to Skip Holtz down at South Florida? Had a pretty good run at East Carolina.
No Holtzes at UM ever. That's a pretty simple rule to start with.
I don't care who his daddy is.
Besides, it would be fine to watch Holtz talk about Michigan on ESPN. (Well, the first couple of times.)
From the ESPN article on Bill Martin's reaction:
Mike Hart isn't in Ann Arbor anymore, keeping busy as an Indianapolis Colts running back, but he has followed the once-proud program closely since his senior year coincided with Carr's last season.
"Rich Rod didn't have a chance because no one agreed with the hire from the top to the bottom of the school and all over town," Hart said. "I'm going to be 100 percent behind whoever the coach at Michigan is and I hope everybody that loves Michigan is the same way, too, even if they don't like who Dave Brandon hires."
Sounds like Hart is our next HC.
Be very quiet, I'm hunting Cricket Selectors.
Yeah, he's an Aussie. If I were a Cricket Selector, I would be very afraid.
I'm not quite sure what a Cricket Selector is, but he is most displeased with their performance. I asked him to keep an eye out for ADs while he was on the hunt.
Just going to throw an interesting name out there, and then duck: Bill Cowher. I don't think DB would seriously consider someone who hasn't run a college program, though. Still, the guy can freakin' coach.
My sleep patterns are off and I'm flat out not sleeping well in the last week. Make it stop.
I'm pretty impressed that even after 2 days, we still have very little information. It seems like anyone on any side of the coaching search is completely tight lipped. Everything is still rumors and speculation (and "sources").
I'll give it to Dave Brandon, he sure knows how to run a stealth campaign. If he's travelling anywhere, it must be in one of these because flight aware has nothing:
The airplane picture is hilarious. I was on Okinawa when the Air Force brought the F-22's through for a tour/show of force and there were LEGIONS of Japanese photographers taking pictures of it when it took off and landed at Kadena Air Base. I can only imagine what their reaction would have been if your picture was accurate.
Well, if now's the time to make up crazy rumors with a modicum of plausibility, how about:
Harbaugh returns to Stanford for 1 more year, with the plan that he takes over the Chargers in 2012, who either use the Harbaugh hire to gain momentum to build a new stadium in San Diego or to start anew when they announce their move to LA for the 2012 season.
Of course, this rumor wouldn't work out if Norv Turner leads San Diego deep into the playoffs or possibly the Super Bowl in 2011. Ha Ha! One hurdle cleared...
I think Miles is still a strong candidate. I don't like the messing with recruits sleaze, but I feel like the Michigan AD has a culture that would not permit such foolishness, unlike LSU.
I really think that some serious discussions will happen Saturday and we will start hearing results Monday or soon after.
I just feel like The Hatter will be it.
Denver Post article - "Broncos' interest in Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh has cooled"
Is the rumor about the job opening needing to be open for a full week true?
My understanding is that yes, it does.however they can name the coach before that and have a deal, it just can't officially happen for a week.
I've seen some people claim there's a state law that applies here, but I've been unable to find any evidence of that.
I did find an HR document from a U-M site that says that a job has to be posted for seven days, but there's a "posting waiver" that it seems to me could easily be used here and mean that a coach could be hired officially at any time. (Note also that the head coaching job hasn't been posted at the U-M online job board--unlike three years ago.)
A. Posting Requirement
Regular openings of 50% effort or more (twenty hours or more on a standard work schedule) will be posted for a minimum of seven calendar days prior to being filled. Regular openings of less than 50 % effort (less than twenty hours on a standard work schedule) may be posted at the discretion of the unit.
1. Posting Waiver:
A unit may request a waiver of the posting requirement from the appropriate Human Resource office. The standard for considering a request for a waiver of the posting requirement is whether the legitimate business needs of the unit outweigh the University’s intent to provide notice of employment opportunities to the University community and others through the posting process. Examples of a business need include, but are not limited to, the University’s commitment to assist reduction-in-force candidates and dual career candidates.
Tony Dungy on the Dan Patrick Show...
Dan: Has Michigan called you about your job?
Tony: They did not...I'm kinda glad they didn't call...my dad grew up a big Michigan Man...I'm glad they didn't call
Dan: What if they do call?
Tony: If they call, I have some great recommendations for them
Makes you wonder who he has in mind for us and if there would be a chance given the Michigan connections he's got...
He recommended Charlie Strong to Louisville.
If he said this in public.
I may have missed the memo but is the site down due to problems or is it because Brian has limited acess due to all the drama that is going on?
Site's been crashing under all the traffic. Front page commenting and creating threads can only be done through the iphone app. Voting's also disabled.
I know this is a bit short-sighted but it'd be great if DB could name a coach by tomorrow. Lyons and Frost announce on Saturday and might slip away. We need those guys bad.
Wishful thinking I suppose.
anyone heard of gus malzahn. he sounds good to me
Is there actually a coach not name Harbaugh that the fan base is legitimately going to be excited about? Hoke is plan B for all intensive purposes. Les Miles hasn't won anything of significance with his own players. Patterson and Peterson seem like possible candidates to be RichRod 2.0...I almost feel like it's going to take a wild card like Jon Gruden to really get some excitement going and for a boom in recruiting…
I’m not saying that’s what I want, just looking for some feedback on the line of thinking.
"for all intents and purposes"
Intensive purposes = intents and purposes
I learned this only recently so sorry if this seems to be harsh. Go Blue.
Negative. It's a malapropism. At best a neolgism.
perfectly cool w/ the correction...
Fan base would be excited about Gruden. Not saying it's necessarily a possibility or that he'd be a slam dunk to succeed here, but people would definitely be buzzing about it.
There's an awesome flashback. Oh how I miss the days when we were fearsome enough to be considered arrogant asses and we considered it compliment.
I'm starting to think that Les Miles is more and more of an option due to the delay of any information. Obviously nothing will come out until AFTER the cotton bowl which is tonight if Miles really is one of the lead men.I don't know how i feel about that.
FWIW, ESPN story lead-in said Harbaugh down to Stanford / NIners decision with an announcement expected as early as today.
It's been a long time since we've pulled a genuine upset. Come on, baby! (Translation: Last chance, Harbaugh, to avoid becoming persona non grata and cast forever into the wilderness.)
dream school my ass
and has special relationships with all those players he recruited to help turn things around. He's a coach remember. It will be difficult to leave his players. He's not Saban where he's done it before.
In a sense he already has a dream job. But he could pursuit another one and here's hoping at this point he does. =]
I agree. But for those of us old enough to remember, Texas A&M tried to make Bo the first coach earning $1 million a year and he stayed in Ann Arbor for the precise reason you stated above, the kids.
* Michigan is a bigger job than Texas A&M.
* Bo wasn't a Texas A&M alum and ex-football player.
Didn't Monahan also give Bo an A2 Domino's franchise to stay at Michigan back then? Given the amount of that crap we ate, that alone would have been worth a fortune.
ESPN NFL - Jim Harbaugh deciding between staying at Stanford or coaching 49ers, source told Chris Mortensen
"The who reportedly were trying to interview Harbaugh earlier this week, have moved on. John Elway, the Broncos' new football czar, said on his weekly radio show on 87.7 The Ticket in Denver on Friday that he believes Harbaugh wants to stay at Stanford rather than turn pro.
Elway also said he believes Harbaugh's alma mater, Michigan -- which dismissed Rich Rodriguez earlier this week -- might be back in the picture."
I was just watching the espn news, they can't figure out why Stephen Ross flew to Califronia yesterday with no offer, in fact they said no one can understand it. CAN anyone say Stephen Ross might be the Agent Michigan is using to confuse the media.
Then don't know anymore than we do what is going on and won't until it is time.
...Harbaugh to everywhere, so when he makes a Press Conf. I think thats the time to panic.
on Espn.that JH is down to staying at Stanford or going to the 49ers. Decision maybe today. Let's drink heavily so we miss the PC announcing the hiring of Hokemon.
...but what about Bob Green from Montana Tech? We'd have to talk him out of retirment, but I'd pay $5 million for this.
Holy F, he's my new favorite, for sure.
"Like tryin' to sell bubble gum in the lockjaw ward..."
My stomach hurts.
Hire him! I bet we could get him for 4.99 million...