There is a NHL draft thread already.
Seems worthy of its own thread to me. When's the last time (other than JMFJ) that we had a top 10 pick on the roster? (KNOCK ON WOOD!!!!!!!!)
Max Pacioretty.
Hopefully Trouba stays longer than he did.
He asked when was the last time we had a Top 10 pick on the roster not named JMFJ. Patch wasn't Top 10. He went 22nd overall.
Last Top 10 before JMFJ was goalie Al Montoya in 2004 (6th overall to NYR), one year before Jack.
Eric Nystrom went 10th overall in 2002. And Mike Komisarek went 7th overall in 2001.
It looks like Trouba is the 7th highest pick we've ever had. He's in good company up there
Name | Overall Pick | Team | Year |
---|---|---|---|
Jack Johnson | 3 | Carolina | 2005 |
Aaron Ward | 5 | Winnipeg | 1991 |
Al Montoya | 6 | NYR | 2004 |
Mike Komisarek | 7 | Montreal | 2001 |
Ryan Sittler | 7 | Philadelphia | 1992 |
David Shand | 8 | Atlanta (Flames) | 1976 |
JACOB TROUBA | 9 | Winnipeg | 2012 |
Eric Nystrom | 10 | Calgary | 2002 |
Jeff Jillson | 14 | San Jose | 1999 |
Mark Mitera | 19 | Anaheim | 2006 |
Bryan Deasley | 19 | Detroit | 1987 |
for him to be in. Can't wait to see him on the ice.
Was he Darryl Sittlers kid? Was he any good? Daryl Sittler was god to be and all my buddies growing up in southern ontario
Yes, he was Darryl Sittler's kid. No, he never panned out.
Ryan became the poster boy for leaving college early and becoming an NHL bust. Had 9-24-33 points in 35 games as a freshman, then the sophomore slump 9-9-18 in 26 games. Ryan decided to leave Michigan and pursue his pro career after that. His pro career consisted of eight teams over five years in the AHL and ECHL before quitting at the age of 25. He never played an NHL game.
I think he was a Dallas Stars 1st selection in the early 90's
Our last Top-10 pick was Johnson, 3rd overall to Carolina. That was it. We have had a large number of players drafted in the middle of the 1st, but not this high in a long time.
Wait a second.... The Winnipeg Jets are a team again?
Aaron Ward got drafted in the top 10 by the Winnipeg Jets back in the day. I'd take that.
Forgive my ignorance (I don't follow hockey), but how can an incoming freshman be drafted? Does this mean he's not coming? He's only staying a year? What gives?
If he chooses. It's different than football or basketball.
It means that team owns his rights, I don't believe he signs a contract or anything (please correct me if im wrong) so he can still play in college. Most nhl draft picks play in the AHL or some of the other minor leagues before they make it to the NHL anyways so the teams don't usually care too much about them being in the system or not, with exceptions of course.
Because hockey has such an extensive minor league system, with players playing since they were 15, the NHL entry draft doesn't have a wait-limit. From the website:
All players age 19 or older [(i) any player who will be age 18 on or before September 15 in the year in which such Entry Draft is held, or (ii) reaches his 19th birthday between September 16 and December 31, both dates included, next following Entry Draft, can attain eligibility by delivering to the League a written notice (Opt in Form) prior to the later of May 1, or seven days following the date such player finishes competing on his team in the year in which such draft is to be held.] are eligible for claim in the Entry Draft, except:
(i) A Player on the Reserve List of a Club, other than as a try-out;
(ii) A player who has been claimed in two prior Entry Drafts;
(iii) A player who previously played in the League and became a free agent pursuant to the Collective Bargaining Agreement;
(iv) A plyer age 21 or older who had played hockey for at least one season in North America when he was age 18, 19 or 20
In short, anybody aged 18-20 is eligible to be drafted
In the NHL, you don't lose your amateur status by getting drafted, the team is just getting the rights to offer you a professional contract for a certain period of time. If you're a college player, they have exclusive rights to sign you up until 30 days after you finish school. Otherwise, they have two years to sign you (roughly when players drafted at age 18 will be hitting the age limit of 20 for Canadian junior hockey). If they don't sign you by then, you just become a free agent. Most players continue to develop in the NCAA/OHL/WHL/etc. for at least a year before they get signed (why pay to develop them when you can have somebody else pay to do it for you?), and typically the only ones that get offered a professional contract right away are the elite few that are ready to jump straight to the NHL (Crosby, Stamkos, etc.).
You have to declare for the NFL and NBA drafts. The NHL and MLB you do not, so there isn't a voluntary revoking of eligibility of the athlete. If a player had to declare for the NHL draft, he would become ineligible immediately.
Incorrect. A player does have to declare for the NHL draft by "opting in".
I'm just curious what's wrong with this post that someone would "moderate" it that way. The prior poster made a point that was absolutely not true and I just corrected the information. A player DOES have to "declare" for the NHL draft, so the comment about being ineligible is just not true. Under the current system, if a player does not submit their opt in paperwork, they cannot be drafted. Have we really reached a point here were stating a fact is somehow considered inappropriate here?
The one word sentence is a dick move. I know. I use it. I like it. It gets downvoted because it makes you sound like an asshole. I guess they want us to say something like, "Actually you do have to opt in for the NHL Draft."
That's a fair point. I should have written it differently. I can see how it could come across that way. Definitely not how I meant it, though.
as declaring in the NFL and NBA. The declaration process in those two leagues revokes a players eligibility because they have to sign with an agent. Maybe I wasn't clear that I meant the process and it was a case of bad wording. That said, I'll go back and plus your comment because it is true.
Ok, yeah, I understand what you meant now. I totally wasn't meaning to be a dick with my prior comment. It was just short because I was on my phone. I apologize if it came across any way other than just trying to correct what I saw as a misstatement. Considering that so few people understand how the NHL draft works, I was just trying to be helpful. I should have worded it differently.
Like I said, my post probably wasn't as clear as it could have been (I'll blame that on my phone as well).
I wish football and basketball did it this way.
Agreed, but for football, how could you ever switch from one system to another? The year they switched from drafting juniors and seniors, to the rights for incomming freshmen would be the most insane draft ever.
I can see basketball, but there is no way it would work for football. If a player is eligible to be drafted right out of HS, then what? Can he make the jump to the show right away or is there still a 3 year wait limit? Recruiting is already dirty enough, we don't need to add NFL teams into the hunt for these HS'ers
You would need the NFL to establish a full-on minor league system (ala the MLB and NHL) for drafting out of high school to make sense, IMO. I do like Brian's idea about expanding the existing D-League and NBA draft to four or five rounds, though.
I don't see why it matters. Just because a player is drafted in hockey, it doesn't mean they are ready to play in the NHL. Just like in baseball. The MLB and NHL drafts are about assigning future rights, while the NFL and NBA drafts are about assigning current readiness. That said, if the NFL were ti adopt the NHL model, I don't see why it wouldn't work. If the player is physically and mentally able to compete, they could do so. Very few, if any, would be able to do so. That's how it works in hockey, though. It is possible for an 18 year old to make the jump, and it does happen, although not as often as many people think. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that the average age for a rookie in the NHL is older than the average age for a rookie in the NFL.
Congrats to Jacob and his family. Now come to Ann Arbor ready to play - team needs what he's got especially this year (based on what I've read about him).