How about a Fab Four reunion? I don't think the person who dug a ten-year ditch for the University of Michigan's basketball program with his greed, and has never offered up a mea culpa or apology, should be allowed back in any official capacity. Ever.
*Freep Warning* Jalen wants Fab Five reunion to watch MBB in March.
I say #FreeTheFab5
And a hearty wanking motion to the holier than thous saying no.
Anyone take the time to appreciate the irony in the title of this thread?
It begins, "Freep Warning", as a note to all those here who hate the Free Press because of their (wrongfully) overzealous attention to our football team's ("major" though minor in reality) NCAA violations. No one denies that Michigan football, untarnished for ages, committed actual violations, but there are still shrines to RichRod in some MGoBasements and not a single adult in A2 is blamed for the violations. Instead...it was the Freep's fault. The football team was terrible, committed violations and we all still love the program/players/(and many) the coaches.
Contrast that with Webber...The bball team committed violations two decades ago and the kids are still taking endless shit from Michigan fans here. There can be no excuses, no tolerance. We don't blame the prosecutor or Cleaves or a black cat walking under a ladder?
I don't understand the disconnect, but if we're to blame a newspaper for football violations committed by the staff, why blame the kids (still, decades later) for basketball violations? Personally, both programs committed wrongs; I'm just more inclined to forgive a kid (20 years later) than I am to make excuses for a highly paid staff of adults.
Do you really believe that stretching to long is the same as taking money from a booster?
I sure don't. I also don't believe adults are the same as kids, or that it makes sense to blame a newspaper (endlessly) for one wrong and then a kid (excuses be damned) for another.
I believe if you read 3 And Out by John U. Bacon he address who was at fault in the Athletic Department for failing to keep up to date forms. Also something about a quality control person told the kids he was an assistant coach which led to some confusion. There were adults who took the heat for Stretchgate and are no longer working for the University.
Still this pales in comparison to taking six figures and showing no contrition when busted.
I don't blame just Webber. I blame the coaches for not keeping a closer eye on the type of contact Ed Martin was having with their players. Those guys all knew who Ed Martin was and his involvement with Detroit baskeball players, but they turned a blind eye. I blame the Athletic Department and Compliance (if there even was such a thing 20 years ago) for not keeping closer tabs on the basketball program. Webber makes an easy target in the eyes of many fans, but he's far from the only transgressor in this scandal.
I think it would be best if every player who had wins vacated came back. Yes, the Fab 5 was the overwhelming driver of value, but those important role players who had absolutely nothing to do with the sanctions got screwed, too.
Why is it automatically a Fab 5 reunion? What about Rob Pelinka, Eric Riley, James Voskuil, Dugan Fife, and all the other players not in the Fab 5? Without Riley, the Fab 5 doesn't make the Final Four in 91-92. Without Voskuil, they don't beat Cincinnati and make the title game that same year. Etc., etc., etc.
I love the Fab 5, and I was one of those students who filled Crisler to the rafters back then. But let's have some more respect and recognition for the other guys on those teams who busted their butts for Michigan.
I'd love to see all of those guys back. No doubt.
The school would be surprised at the reception some of those guys would get. Even Jason Bossard would get love from the alumni at that time. I think that if you honor the entire team, it can take some of the negative press away.
Like it or not the Fab Five did a lot to not only impact U of M in a positive way (not just negative) but they also transformed a culture. People need to stop getting their panties in a bunch over them and what happened. With that said, of the five the one who gets the least respect is Webber. His silence in the Fab Five doc and throughout has me believing that he knew what he did was wrong and that he doesn't regret it. I don't hate Webber at all, it's just easier to let something go when the one at fault apologizes. I think the Fab Five attending a game is cool. Honoring them would be off limits IMO.
Would set us up for recruiting the next two years. Would be awesome.
The Fab Five has zilch to do with this team or it's current success. This program was built in spite of them, not on their legacy. At this point they are a liability. How about not compounding what you did to this university and staying the hell way? This isn't about you.