i like 'em both
Fox Sports Detroit summary of Denard's performance at Combine
Well yeah he's getting drafted. I'd take him 3rd... Maybe 4th. Nerve problems concern me.
so I'll read this.
To be realistic (which I got negged to death for earlier), I think Denard goes somewhere between rounds 3-5. Rounds 1 and 2 usually are for elite talent at their trained positions, or a position of need.
Unless you're my Detroit Lions, then like, whatever you're feelin', man.
There have been plenty of college QBs drafted in the second round to play other positions - Armanti Edwards, Pat White, Bert Emanuel, etc. And Matt Jones was drafted in the first round. Denard may not have experience as a WR, but assuming his elbow will heal completely, he's an athlete on a level that few can touch. If I were a NFL team without glaring needs elsewhere, I'd draft him in the second round as a multipurpose playmaker and use him like Percy Harvin.
Pat White was drafted as a QB. Threw 5 passes, got sacked once, ran the ball 21 times...but never caught a pass.
He was drafted as a gadget/wildcat player. Nobody expected him to be a full-time QB.
Tommy Frazier, Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, and Tom Brady all play/played the same position, and it's called quarterback. It doesn't really matter what they planned to do with him from the quarterback position - he lined up behind center, threw passes, ran the ball, and never caught a pass.
He was as much a QB as Darren McFadden was in the Wildcat at Arkansas. If you think that's the same as Tom Brady, I guess that's your opinion. I would call it a different position.
The NFL calls it the same position. I think I'll take their word on the situation.
passes, especially over the shoulder types while at UM. Yes, he also proved he was a magnificent return man. And Desmond, although he won the Heisman, proved he couldn't catch a pass at the NFL level. However, both retired from the NFL- maybe premature on Stevie- as very wealthy individuals who offered a tremendous amount to their teams, including a Super Bowl MVP.
I still think he should be a change of pace back. He pretty much been a RB these last 4 years, and looked great there at the outback bowl. Yes he's always banged up, but he's never had any bad injury. He could handle 10 carries a game. I can see him be used like J. Rodgers in Atlanta. He has been such a great runner in college. If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.
I think at the slot he can excel because of his speed and pick up 5+yards consistently. Moreover, he's proven he can take big hits and bounce back up, so as long as his hands improve, I think he can do very well.
RB is obvious (to me): he has an incredibly quick burst and cutting ability. If, hypothetically, a team is 2nd and 8, and they want to run Denard up the gut for a 1st down or short yardage 3rd, does anyone think he can't get that?
I thought he showed great prowess at RB against SC.
No bad injuries...except the one that has kept him from playing QB since mid season and is still today impacting his ability to grip the football, right?
But that was clearly kind of a fluke. It was like hitting your funnybone, except a couple degrees of magnitude worse (so about funnybone equivalent for a normal person who isn't running into 300-pound people at 10mph on a day-to-day basis). I wouldn't call myself injury-prone if I hit my funnybone on my desk once and it bugged me for the rest of the day.
Didn't stop him from being a RB, right?
Um...it did for a few weeks.
Tom Brady's ACL tear didn't stop him from being a QB, either. It just stopped him from being a QB for the entirety of that season.
Tough. Quick. Gamer. Welker with break away speed.
But Wes Welker is a technician when it comes to route running, I think i'd compare a Jeremy Gallon to Welker, i could be off base though. Just my humble opinion.
But, but, Wes Welker is white!!!
Drew Dileo = Wes Welker
I see no similarities between Wes Welker and Denard Robinson.
he will go late first round to a contender. Maybe Atlanta.
Jacquizz Rodgers is a very similar player, so I really don't see that happening. Not too sure the Falcons would want to use a first round pick on him when they already have basically the same player at that position.
It's gonna be the Cowboys...it'll be horrid, but I'd still buy that jersey.
Jerry Jones is the damn devil. Seriously...$9 12 oz.beers?? Greedy old bastard. Anywho, I would love to be able to watch him every Sunday since I'm forced to watch their shitty team anyway.
Jerry Jones is the damn devil, but the Cowboy are my boys....... I would love to see him become one of the "star guys" (as my 5 yr old calls them).
Please God, anyone other than the Lions for D Rob, please.
Like others have mentioned, he'll go in the middle rounds - 3rd or 4th - and get some spot duty on returns and WR in special packages. Heck, he might even play Wildcat a couple of downs for the right team. Wish him the best.
On the "likely to see him fall in the draft" side-Nerve damage, hardly any time played at wide receiver in college which means lack of route running practice, fundamentals lacking, not sure if he can catch with a guy covering him, and of course very little game film to look at for scouting.
On the"likely to rise in the draft" side-Explosive playmaker in college, showed significant improvement catching the ball at the combine, very fast, completely willing to learn the receiver position and move there from quarterback, and an excellent attitude.
People so often forget the importance of being a professional and a hardworker in the eyes of NFL coaches. How do you not love Denard when you see him and talk to him? I expect to see him drafted in the middle to late third round especially by a team that has their fourth pick by then. The fourth pick is usually where teams will start be willing to gamble on a luxury option who has a lot of upside but some big questions. His upside is too big to wait for the fifth or sixth round for him.
The interesting question to me is Tavon Austin vs. Denard. Similar hybrid position, but Austin has more experience at it. Denard has 25 lbs on him, so he's probably more durable.
The number of games Denard couldn't finish due to injury has to be over a dozen (8 in 2010 alone). Regardless of his extra weight, I doubt any NFL scout will consider his durability a positive.
I still think some team will take a shot at him earlier than some expect. I'll say either late 2nd or late 3rd.
My pick would be Tavon Austin. He can return kicks and punts, in addition to playing WR immediately. Denard is more of a project.
I think the Vikings will take Denard and prepare to give Percy Harvin some wonderful parting gifts.