so much for that
Former WR Jerald Robinson arrested, faces multiple felony charges (CONFIRMED)
March 18th, 2013 at 5:05 PM | 
Well sadly for you and
Well sadly for you and
March 18th, 2013 at 5:08 PM |
The law is the law.
The law is the law.
The law is the law.
March 18th, 2013 at 7:19 PM |
The law is a ass.
The law is a ass.
The law is a ass.
March 18th, 2013 at 5:14 PM |
Well...
Well...
Seeing as how criminal laws are supposed to be a reflection of a society's morals and protection of each other... I would say its a shame for everyone that something so devoid of bad morals or victims can carry such a significant burden. If laws without any logical basis can be used to throw people in jail...look out.... Something you do might be criminalizes for no reason in the future.
Plus, you, me and everyone pay a lot of money to enforce those laws.
He was dumb to do it (assuming he is guilty), but we should all be against baseless criminalization of morally innocent conduct.
March 18th, 2013 at 6:40 PM |
Seems Innocent
Seems Innocent
until your investigator calls you out to look at a couple of dudes he found in a car, handcuffed and with their heads cut off. you know, innocent dope mules, but maybe the cost is too much? it's worse in the desert, too. they stink to high heaven. or when the angels blow torched a guy to death, now that was definitely some innocent fun. i dunno, maybe we can't handle that much fun. i don't believe simple possession should be much penalized, nor should a mere pound or two, but make no mistake, it's not an 'innocent' crime.
Quiverfull
March 18th, 2013 at 8:47 PM |
You must be kidding...
You must be kidding...
Those things happened because of the mere fact it is illegal. In other words, those things are another reason why making it illegal is dumb. If you think outlawing drugs prevents, instead of encourages outlaw gang violence, then you are an idiot.
March 18th, 2013 at 10:33 PM |
Not Kidding
Not Kidding
lived it. ran a covert gang task force in cal for years before i (gratefully) came home to mich. it is legal in california and those things still happen all the time. it is basically legal in mexico and it is thunderdome down there and they are in the process of losing their country. if it were proper i could post some nice crime scene photos. you'd love them. so innocent, especially the torture ones where the organs are hanging out of the body. blow torches leave very tell-tale marks too, unless of course the bod(ies) have been in the desert for a while, then they all turn black and start to liquify. dope is 'safe' in, say, brighton or ann arbor, but dope is a killer. but it will make you smart and ambitious, so there's a saving grace.
Quiverfull
March 18th, 2013 at 10:45 PM |
You lived it?
You lived it?
When did you live it being legal? "Basically legal" in Mexico and "legal" in CA? When?
I thought it was stilling legal in CA without a script (like oxy). Not really street legal then is it?
What you saw happened because people couldn't grow it or buy it in a store. Do you think those people would have killed each other if it was available in the beer isle at Kroger? What you saw happened because it was forced into the black market
Like I said... You are not too bright.
BTW- I don't use marijuana or any other illegal drugs. I'm just capable of reasoning.
March 19th, 2013 at 5:15 AM |
MJ is legal in California
MJ is legal in California
they sell it in shops and you can have it delivered like dominos pizza and pick the type you want. MJ is legal in Mexico for all intents and purposes, there is no law there and if you're 'caught' you can give the cop a bribe (it's called 'mordido' in spanish) and you can walk with your weed. i agree i'm not too bright, but i do have a least a modicum of wisdom and far more experience on these topics than you, so you may want to refrain from the personal attacks - folks on this blog tend to be pretty good to one another and you might want to adopt that e-demeanor. otherwise they'll send you to bolivia. i'm not sure if weed is legal in bolivia.
Quiverfull
March 19th, 2013 at 6:35 AM |
How?
How?
You worked in the area and don't know it is illegal in California without a prescription, it is illegal under US federal law and Illegal in Mexico? You realize saying you can bribe someone in Mexico still makes it illegal and pushes it to a violent underground, right? If it was in mainstream commerce things would be much different. It's scary someone presumably in charge of enforcing laws doesn't know what is illegal.
March 19th, 2013 at 10:06 AM |
Bless Your Heart
Bless Your Heart
peter. you are taking things out of context a bit, aren't you? no points for pouncing on a non-existent straw man.
Quiverfull
March 18th, 2013 at 7:17 PM |
not hating, just observing that...
not hating, just observing that...
i just think its hilariously ironic that someone with username PetrKlima (sic) is commenting on issues of substance abuse.
This is home...
March 18th, 2013 at 5:07 PM |
LOL on the shopping bag in the background
LOL on the shopping bag in the background
Nothing says class like putting your weed in a Plum Market shopping bag.
March 18th, 2013 at 5:08 PM |
Well, it looks like Rodriguez
Well, it looks like Rodriguez
Well, it looks like Rodriguez recruited at least two drug dealers (Feagin and Robinson) in his three years here. I wonder who the drug dealer in the 2009 class is/was; that way he could have one in each class.
March 18th, 2013 at 5:57 PM |
So Magnus, does Billy Taylor count against Bo?
So Magnus, does Billy Taylor count against Bo?
How many other addict/bank robbers did Bo recruit?
Does Lloyd Carr have to answer for the misdeeds of Kelly Baraka, B.J. Askew, Jeremy LeSeur, Todd Howard, Jonathan Goodwin, Maurice Smith or James Whitley?
Does Gary Moeller have to answer for any other Moellers?
See how that goes, Magnus?
March 18th, 2013 at 6:18 PM |
I was unaware that all those
I was unaware that all those
I was unaware that all those guys were drug dealers.
March 18th, 2013 at 6:26 PM |
Good point
Good point
Good point but will you please give it up? Magnus' comment is obviously not constructive but your RR defense comments don't help anything. I would hope people recognize the ignorance of his comment without you weighing in.
March 18th, 2013 at 6:47 PM |
You mistake me for somebody who is trying to "help."
You mistake me for somebody who is trying to "help."
Now everybody recognizes "the ignorance of his comment." Like the scene in the Godfather where Michael Corleone witnesses the Cuban rebel with a grenade grabbing the Captain of the Guards and falling together inside a car where the grenade detonates. Messy. And a hard lesson for those who witnessed it.
"Help": I'm not much interested in a tutorial on Michigan football arrests. But Magnus has this very bad habit if taking cheap shots at Coach Rodriguez, and I'm trying to help him overcome it.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:47 AM |
I'm sorry, but was there
I'm sorry, but was there
I'm sorry, but was there anything factually incorrect about my comment? No. Was I taking a shot at Rodriguez? Um, yeah. Did Rodriguez fail miserably at Michigan? Absolutely. Were there factors outside of his control? Sure.
Did he still recruit two drug dealers in three years? Yes. Yes, he did, and numerous other guys failed to qualify at Michigan, transferred, got in trouble, etc. That 2010 class was a huge failure with 16 guys who have left already; a few good players remain on the team, but just 11 are left out of the original 27.
March 20th, 2013 at 2:40 PM |
Was there anything incorrect about MY comment?
Was there anything incorrect about MY comment?
We both know that you were taking a shot at Rodriguez. YOU say you were taking a shot at Rodriguez.
And I was defending Rodriguez.
If you know as much as I think you do about recruiting, Magnus, you'd know that the 2010 recruiting class was assembled under the dark cloud of Stretchgate. Unfair to Rodriguez; borderline defamation of Rodriguez. A despicable and shameful act on the part of Michael Rosenberg and the Free Press and whoever Rosenberg's ennablers were within the Athletic Department. It cost us recruits. I trust Bacon's reporting on that subject.
You don't read me telling anybody how to coach, Magnus. You've never seen me substitute my opinion for a coach's opinion on coaching. All that I have done in the case of Rodriguez is to point out how unfairly he was treated at Michigan. I don't care if you agree with that; I know that I am right about that one.
You can continue to take "shots" at Rodriguez. And I'll continue to defend Rodriguez on the defensible points that I am aware of as a non-coach, as long as you do that.
And count this as yet one more episode in which the Rodriguez haters crawl out to raise him as a subject without prompting from people like me. Haved a nice day.
March 20th, 2013 at 2:56 PM |
I'm not arguing any of your
I'm not arguing any of your
I'm not arguing any of your points.
Regardless, the recruiting in the 2010 class was terrible. Shadow of Stretchgate or not, having a bunch of kids fail to qualify and having 16 of them gone after three years is abominable. And of the 11 remaining, there are a handful who never/rarely see the field - Paskorz, Ash, Furman, etc. Hagerup is often suspended. Etc. Michigan got a couple good players, a couple mediocre starter types, and then a bunch of riff-raff.
March 19th, 2013 at 2:07 AM |
So many potheads on the team
So many potheads on the team
Brandon Minor. Mario Manningham. Forcier.
Abort, Retry, Fail?
March 18th, 2013 at 5:10 PM |
He
He
He is most likely looking at 6-12 months. Hope he can figure his life out.
THIS IS MICHIGAN
March 18th, 2013 at 5:55 PM |
6-12 months on the marijuana
6-12 months on the marijuana
6-12 months on the marijuana charges, but he's probably facing 10-20 years for possessing Michigan apparel in Ohio.
The swag is back.
March 18th, 2013 at 5:17 PM |
Well that is a bummer ain't
Well that is a bummer ain't
Well that is a bummer ain't it, but look at those nugs, oh my
March 18th, 2013 at 5:26 PM |
I believe a true Jr. is
I believe a true Jr. is
named exactly like dad. Including same middle name. A II is the same first and last name but not the full complete name.
The Blog, the Blog, the Blog!
March 18th, 2013 at 5:34 PM |
Or after a grandfather.
Or after a grandfather.
Or after a grandfather, like Henry Ford II.
March 18th, 2013 at 5:38 PM |
Jeesh
Jeesh
The law is the law, and this was a stupid choice on his part ... but this is a stupid law. Here's a kid who's now potentially done a lot of damage to his future by possessing ... a plant. Unfortunate. (Apologies if this treads too closely to politics).
March 18th, 2013 at 5:52 PM |
^ Exactly, the law is the
^ Exactly, the law is the
^ Exactly, the law is the law. Without getting into politics, whether we agree with the war on drugs and our current drug laws, it currently is what it is until it no longer is what it currently is. Or something like that.
I, for one, feel both very bad for him for commiting a crime that in my opinion should not be a crime. However, at the same time I just shake my head at, in my opinion, the stupidy of his actions taken.
I hope for the best for JR II.
Streaming UM games early Sunday morning from Korea, since 2007
March 18th, 2013 at 9:06 PM |
Yeah
Yeah
You are right. I usually don't care one way or another about drug laws. It just kind if hit me though that banning marijuana is flat out stupid. Since we make the laws in this country (indirectly) I figure some discussion is good to move the dial because Jerald does not deserve what he is about to get. Even though he didn't play much, he was a Wolverine and that makes him sympathetic to me.
March 18th, 2013 at 6:01 PM |
Wow
Wow
The cops in Ohio DEFINITELY took the opportunity to set those bags up perfectly on top of the Michigan gear. There is no way Jerald would be rollin that dirty with bags of weed just carelessly tossed in the back seat like that. Obviously what Jerald did was very wrong but the Ohio cops knew exactly what they were doing putting it on display like that to reflect poorly on Michigan.
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March 18th, 2013 at 6:03 PM |
Smoking weed makes me feel
Smoking weed makes me feel
Smoking weed makes me feel good. Selling weed makes me feel sad.
Sent From My Commodore 64
March 18th, 2013 at 6:09 PM |
This is just sad to me. I
This is just sad to me. I
This is just sad to me. I hate to see someone so young make this big a mistake. I hope he can turn things around in his life.
Denied by UM multiple times, nonetheless lifelong M fan.
March 18th, 2013 at 6:20 PM |
Uhhh am I wrong orrrr
Uhhh am I wrong orrrr
Are the extra baggies in the picture enough (as if over a pound is incriminating enough) to hit him with distribution?
March 18th, 2013 at 8:13 PM |
he is charged
he is charged
with felony possession (5th degree felony) for having over 100 grams. In Ohio you can have up to 100 grams in one bag and it is considered "personal use" which is a class 6 misdemeanor. He is also charged with trafficking (4th degree felony) because the pound was in separate bags. I didn't see empty bags in the picture, but if they were present, then they could attach a "possession of criminal tools" charge as well. Had everything been in one bag, it would have been felony possession only. Or that's what I heard on a documentary on PBS.
Since they smelled burnt weed, but he didn't get a drug paraphenalia charge, Im going to assume he was toking a joint or a blunt.
ALWAYS remember the golden rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules
March 18th, 2013 at 9:31 PM |
Not entirely correct.
Not entirely correct.
Not entirely correct. Felony possession is over 200 grams of marijuana. Between 100-200 grams is a low level misdemeanor, a misdemeanor of the fourth degree.
Under 100 grams of marijuana is a minor misdemeanor and is not a jailable offense. However, if one has 50 grams of marijuana in one bag, a scale, 3 cell phones, and a thousand dollars in small bills, sometimes that one bag is charged as trafficking.
Also, in my 17 years of practicing criminal defense, with a high volume of cases being drug cases, I have never seen an empty bag charged as possession of criminal tools.
March 18th, 2013 at 6:27 PM |
Well I imagine it won't be the last time we see
Well I imagine it won't be the last time we see
Well I imagine it won't be the last time we see that picture...
March 18th, 2013 at 6:47 PM |
Definitely him
Definitely him
This old article list his name as Jerald B Robinson II .
March 18th, 2013 at 7:03 PM |
Low level Felony
Low level Felony
This is a Felony 5 in Ohio. Lowest level Felony. It will get dropped to a Misdemeanor 1 and he will get probation. Most likely will be able to go through diversion program and have it removed from his record if he stays out of trouble.
Happy are those who dream dreams and pay the price for them to come true
March 18th, 2013 at 8:43 PM |
Feel badly for him;
Feel badly for him;
not keen on Ohio cops from many years of driving east for T'giving.
March 18th, 2013 at 8:58 PM |
The ****, man.
The ****, man.
The ****, man.
March 18th, 2013 at 9:15 PM |
In Ohio, as long as you are
In Ohio, as long as you are
In Ohio, as long as you are not caught actually selling a pound of weed, there is not much of a difference between being charged with possession of marijuana, trafficking in marijuana, or both possession and trafficking. The penalties for possession of a pound of marijuana and a pound of marijuana prepared for distribution (trafficking) are equal and cannot be stacked one on top of the other.
Possession/Trafficking between 200-1000 grams of marijuana is a lower level felony, a felony of the fourth degree. These charges carry a potential prison sentence of between six and eighteen months. However, if one has no prior felonies on his or her record and is convicted of a fourth degree felony, the law dictates that the person be placed on probation instead of given a prison sentence.
March 18th, 2013 at 10:00 PM |
What a stupid kid
What a stupid kid
Makes sense why he wasn't able to make it on the football field and in the class room. Who the hell transports drugs knowing you have front license plate issue (probably missing) and transporting such a large quantity of weed so poorly secured that your car smells of weed? I can tell you sho does this. A fool.
"The street legend is back, bitches!"
March 19th, 2013 at 2:10 AM |
He should have had the
He should have had the
He should have had the illegal stuff in the trunk and lit a cigarette as he was getting pulled over.
Abort, Retry, Fail?
March 20th, 2013 at 1:19 PM |
Too bad
Too bad
If he played football for OSU he could have just claimed it was his mom's weed and walked free.
Well sadly for you and Jerald, it doesn't have to be morally wrong to be wrong...