that is sad.
should've started your business up in washington state instead homey.
that is sad.
should've started your business up in washington state instead homey.
If it turns out that this is an unfortunate mistake we'll make sure the title gets changed and the post gets updated. Until then, though, the stuff reported by the TV station seems to support enough to post on the board as possible. Bad press isn't what gets deleted, it's unsubstantiated rumors or something that ended horribly after a bunch of comments (in regards to M athletes in the news).
But it does sound like the 2010 class is having even more FAIL poured on it.
Go big or go home I suppose. As a side note, I have a feeling that the Ohio State Patrol exercised some artistic liberties when taking that photograph.
Maybe my concept of trolling is askew, but the UM garb juxtaposed with that pile of weed seems like a rather fine piece of trolling by whomever took that photo. Enemy or not, gotta tip my hat to him/her.
Rest assured that if the situation was reversed, we'd all be immersing ourselves in the glorious schadenfreude.
I wonder if he is going to get intent to distro? Kid could be in big trouble if they go drug dealer route instead of drug user route.
Also, I am betting the highway patrolman was an osu alum/ fan given the fine job he did in capturing the Michigan paraphernalia. Seems a little unnecessary to be broadcasting.
Caught with a pound? That's pretty much guaranteed intent to distribute.
Though his inability to get on the field consistently could indicate that it was for personal use and he was just stocking up on the good stuff in MI, rather than sourcing locally in Ohio.
Especially outside of Michigan.
If you don't know that this is a legal and elected fact, then I don't know what to tell you. Other than: it is.
obviously the police have never been to Stubenville. Everyone there has cateracts and needs medicine.
Its the brownie capital of ohio too. Maybe he is a baker and doesnt like walnuts.
but is the city you're talking about THAT city?
Also, socially accepted capital law or not, it's the state law that matters (usually).
The extra, empty baggies only add to the "accessories", too. Regardless, they will hit him with multiple counts, I'm sure. Best scenario would probably be felony possession, while the worst might be somewhere from 5-8 years or more.
The latter is improbable, but the risk/reward for your pound can't be worth it...especially taking it in transit. Dumb.
In Ohio the charge is trafficking in marijuana. I should know. It's a fifth degree felony.
At least it doesn't add to our Fulmer cup rating.
Hope you get your life turned around.
It isn't April yet is it?
never understood why people would risk so much for an extra $500 bucks a month...unless you are pablo escobar it cant be worth the risk...
he's has a seriously flawed business model if he's only making $500 off a pound. should be able to turn a grand or two off that.
Not that I endorse this behavior in anyway, nor have I, umm, took part in it in anyway....buuuut I can say that there is the potential for a lot more than $500 a month. Keep in mind too, thats straight cash, tax free, and requires a lot less than the 60 hours/week I put into my job now. To 18/19/20 year old, that can be a lot more enticing than working as a cashier or a waiter for $10/hour
$500 bucks $1,000 bucks...what ever.. still not worth spending YEARS of your life in jail for a pair of gucci shoes. Cant imagine he is using this money to send himself through school.
but I think the penalty is just a year max for his amount, and I doubt he gets that.
EDIT: Should clarify: I think there is a fine involved, as well.
lol having weed does not equal years in jail.
Not to nitpick....but Canton is not in Lorain County, where the arrest took place. Other than that, yeah, prob the same Jerald Robinson
Uh, it says Jerald Robinson II of Canton, Ohio.
Speaking of which, what the fuck makes somebody a II as opposed to a Jr.?
I'm pretty sure the difference is the 'II' after the name as opposed to the 'Jr."
Not named after daddy. Named after a grandfather or other prior male progenitor.
My dad is a II, named after his grandfather.
Good one. Another good example: Henry Ford II was name after his grandfather, Henry Ford.
I am responding to what the OP put in his OP.
Same age, arrested in Canton, OH (his hometown),
Um, yeah, what is this?
It’s a Katchina doll.
The hopi word ‘katsina’ or ‘katchina’ is used in 3 ways. It refers to spirit beings, the mass dancers who impersonate these beings, or the painted wooden figurines, which represent these dancers. The katchina was very important in the religious life of the ancient Pueblo people.
Wow that’s fascinating.
Yeah and you put your weed in there.
I wonder if he can successfully pull off an "I was using it as a sacrament in a religious rite" defense?
Wait until you get home to burn a doobie fergodsakes!!!!
Those loser Ohio cops COULD HAVE removed the Michigan gear from the picture, as they would have any Ohio State gear, but I guess they didn't want to "tamper".
yeah, this one is gonna hit 11W and the rest of the internets really hard. Can't wait...
Since when do cops post pictures of evidence (with or without their little logo) for all to see?
Some people desperately need structure and guidance in order to make good decisions...
Not good for him. But, marijuana possession (even a large amount) is one of the most harmless and victimless crimes that can be considered serious. He shouldn't have done it for his own future's sake, but he did nothing close to morally wrong in my book.
Now the DUI, beating regular sized humans, stolen goods crowd... That is a whole different group he unfortunately lumped with now.
And in my state, this wouldn't have been an issue (well, maybe the qty.) so long as I was operating the vehicle sober.
They can pull you over for not having a license plate in the front? That extra plate must cost some extra cash at the Ohio DMV. And how do they prove he intended to sell it rather than smoke it all himself? They just add charges they can't prove so when the plead him down it looks like they are "helping" him. Fact is, regardless of how I feel about it, when those who make/enforce the laws are not well intentioned, better off obeying them.
There needs to be a "costco law" with marijuana. Buying bulk for personal use can really save you money, but if you get caught with it they can slap an intent to distribute. It doesn't even look like that much if that is all of it in the picture.
People in IL get pulled over all the time for only having one plate instead of two. I guess the same in Ohio. That is all I can contribute to this unfortunate incident.
Well sadly for you and Jerald, it doesn't have to be morally wrong to be wrong...
The law is the law.
The law is a ass.
Seeing as how criminal laws are supposed to be a reflection of a society's morals and protection of each other... I would say its a shame for everyone that something so devoid of bad morals or victims can carry such a significant burden. If laws without any logical basis can be used to throw people in jail...look out.... Something you do might be criminalizes for no reason in the future.
Plus, you, me and everyone pay a lot of money to enforce those laws.
He was dumb to do it (assuming he is guilty), but we should all be against baseless criminalization of morally innocent conduct.
Those things happened because of the mere fact it is illegal. In other words, those things are another reason why making it illegal is dumb. If you think outlawing drugs prevents, instead of encourages outlaw gang violence, then you are an idiot.
When did you live it being legal? "Basically legal" in Mexico and "legal" in CA? When?
I thought it was stilling legal in CA without a script (like oxy). Not really street legal then is it?
What you saw happened because people couldn't grow it or buy it in a store. Do you think those people would have killed each other if it was available in the beer isle at Kroger? What you saw happened because it was forced into the black market
Like I said... You are not too bright.
BTW- I don't use marijuana or any other illegal drugs. I'm just capable of reasoning.
You worked in the area and don't know it is illegal in California without a prescription, it is illegal under US federal law and Illegal in Mexico? You realize saying you can bribe someone in Mexico still makes it illegal and pushes it to a violent underground, right? If it was in mainstream commerce things would be much different. It's scary someone presumably in charge of enforcing laws doesn't know what is illegal.
i just think its hilariously ironic that someone with username PetrKlima (sic) is commenting on issues of substance abuse.
Nothing says class like putting your weed in a Plum Market shopping bag.
Well, it looks like Rodriguez recruited at least two drug dealers (Feagin and Robinson) in his three years here. I wonder who the drug dealer in the 2009 class is/was; that way he could have one in each class.
How many other addict/bank robbers did Bo recruit?
Does Lloyd Carr have to answer for the misdeeds of Kelly Baraka, B.J. Askew, Jeremy LeSeur, Todd Howard, Jonathan Goodwin, Maurice Smith or James Whitley?
Does Gary Moeller have to answer for any other Moellers?
See how that goes, Magnus?
I was unaware that all those guys were drug dealers.
Good point but will you please give it up? Magnus' comment is obviously not constructive but your RR defense comments don't help anything. I would hope people recognize the ignorance of his comment without you weighing in.
Now everybody recognizes "the ignorance of his comment." Like the scene in the Godfather where Michael Corleone witnesses the Cuban rebel with a grenade grabbing the Captain of the Guards and falling together inside a car where the grenade detonates. Messy. And a hard lesson for those who witnessed it.
"Help": I'm not much interested in a tutorial on Michigan football arrests. But Magnus has this very bad habit if taking cheap shots at Coach Rodriguez, and I'm trying to help him overcome it.
I'm sorry, but was there anything factually incorrect about my comment? No. Was I taking a shot at Rodriguez? Um, yeah. Did Rodriguez fail miserably at Michigan? Absolutely. Were there factors outside of his control? Sure.
Did he still recruit two drug dealers in three years? Yes. Yes, he did, and numerous other guys failed to qualify at Michigan, transferred, got in trouble, etc. That 2010 class was a huge failure with 16 guys who have left already; a few good players remain on the team, but just 11 are left out of the original 27.
We both know that you were taking a shot at Rodriguez. YOU say you were taking a shot at Rodriguez.
And I was defending Rodriguez.
If you know as much as I think you do about recruiting, Magnus, you'd know that the 2010 recruiting class was assembled under the dark cloud of Stretchgate. Unfair to Rodriguez; borderline defamation of Rodriguez. A despicable and shameful act on the part of Michael Rosenberg and the Free Press and whoever Rosenberg's ennablers were within the Athletic Department. It cost us recruits. I trust Bacon's reporting on that subject.
You don't read me telling anybody how to coach, Magnus. You've never seen me substitute my opinion for a coach's opinion on coaching. All that I have done in the case of Rodriguez is to point out how unfairly he was treated at Michigan. I don't care if you agree with that; I know that I am right about that one.
You can continue to take "shots" at Rodriguez. And I'll continue to defend Rodriguez on the defensible points that I am aware of as a non-coach, as long as you do that.
And count this as yet one more episode in which the Rodriguez haters crawl out to raise him as a subject without prompting from people like me. Haved a nice day.
I'm not arguing any of your points.
Regardless, the recruiting in the 2010 class was terrible. Shadow of Stretchgate or not, having a bunch of kids fail to qualify and having 16 of them gone after three years is abominable. And of the 11 remaining, there are a handful who never/rarely see the field - Paskorz, Ash, Furman, etc. Hagerup is often suspended. Etc. Michigan got a couple good players, a couple mediocre starter types, and then a bunch of riff-raff.
Brandon Minor. Mario Manningham. Forcier.
He is most likely looking at 6-12 months. Hope he can figure his life out.
Well that is a bummer ain't it, but look at those nugs, oh my
named exactly like dad. Including same middle name. A II is the same first and last name but not the full complete name.
Or after a grandfather, like Henry Ford II.
The law is the law, and this was a stupid choice on his part ... but this is a stupid law. Here's a kid who's now potentially done a lot of damage to his future by possessing ... a plant. Unfortunate. (Apologies if this treads too closely to politics).
^ Exactly, the law is the law. Without getting into politics, whether we agree with the war on drugs and our current drug laws, it currently is what it is until it no longer is what it currently is. Or something like that.
I, for one, feel both very bad for him for commiting a crime that in my opinion should not be a crime. However, at the same time I just shake my head at, in my opinion, the stupidy of his actions taken.
I hope for the best for JR II.
You are right. I usually don't care one way or another about drug laws. It just kind if hit me though that banning marijuana is flat out stupid. Since we make the laws in this country (indirectly) I figure some discussion is good to move the dial because Jerald does not deserve what he is about to get. Even though he didn't play much, he was a Wolverine and that makes him sympathetic to me.
The cops in Ohio DEFINITELY took the opportunity to set those bags up perfectly on top of the Michigan gear. There is no way Jerald would be rollin that dirty with bags of weed just carelessly tossed in the back seat like that. Obviously what Jerald did was very wrong but the Ohio cops knew exactly what they were doing putting it on display like that to reflect poorly on Michigan.
Smoking weed makes me feel good. Selling weed makes me feel sad.
This is just sad to me. I hate to see someone so young make this big a mistake. I hope he can turn things around in his life.
with felony possession (5th degree felony) for having over 100 grams. In Ohio you can have up to 100 grams in one bag and it is considered "personal use" which is a class 6 misdemeanor. He is also charged with trafficking (4th degree felony) because the pound was in separate bags. I didn't see empty bags in the picture, but if they were present, then they could attach a "possession of criminal tools" charge as well. Had everything been in one bag, it would have been felony possession only. Or that's what I heard on a documentary on PBS.
Since they smelled burnt weed, but he didn't get a drug paraphenalia charge, Im going to assume he was toking a joint or a blunt.
Not entirely correct. Felony possession is over 200 grams of marijuana. Between 100-200 grams is a low level misdemeanor, a misdemeanor of the fourth degree.
Under 100 grams of marijuana is a minor misdemeanor and is not a jailable offense. However, if one has 50 grams of marijuana in one bag, a scale, 3 cell phones, and a thousand dollars in small bills, sometimes that one bag is charged as trafficking.
Also, in my 17 years of practicing criminal defense, with a high volume of cases being drug cases, I have never seen an empty bag charged as possession of criminal tools.
Well I imagine it won't be the last time we see that picture...
This old article list his name as Jerald B Robinson II .
This is a Felony 5 in Ohio. Lowest level Felony. It will get dropped to a Misdemeanor 1 and he will get probation. Most likely will be able to go through diversion program and have it removed from his record if he stays out of trouble.
not keen on Ohio cops from many years of driving east for T'giving.
The ****, man.
In Ohio, as long as you are not caught actually selling a pound of weed, there is not much of a difference between being charged with possession of marijuana, trafficking in marijuana, or both possession and trafficking. The penalties for possession of a pound of marijuana and a pound of marijuana prepared for distribution (trafficking) are equal and cannot be stacked one on top of the other.
Possession/Trafficking between 200-1000 grams of marijuana is a lower level felony, a felony of the fourth degree. These charges carry a potential prison sentence of between six and eighteen months. However, if one has no prior felonies on his or her record and is convicted of a fourth degree felony, the law dictates that the person be placed on probation instead of given a prison sentence.
He should have had the illegal stuff in the trunk and lit a cigarette as he was getting pulled over.
If he played football for OSU he could have just claimed it was his mom's weed and walked free.