Former player Curt Stephenson Posts This on Rivals Today
That'll be $9.95 please.
I can't speak for others, but I've been feeling pretty fucking good lately.
This hire was huge! We could have ended up like Notre Dame and have been irrelevant much longer. JH will have us back on top quickly. 2-3 yrs at most.
that ND played for an NC just a year and a half ago. You may be referring to their long previous period in the wilderness, but with ours having stretched--what 15? years--to their 20 (?), I am willing to stay a little bit humble until we are a few steps closer to full recovery.
Dear Devil's Advocate:
To Hell With notre dame!
April 24th, 2015 at 10:01 PM ^
Ours is only really since 2007 or 2008. ND is since the 90s. Also they were not much better than us in 2012 just got lucky that whole host of things went their way.
April 25th, 2015 at 10:50 AM ^
Agreed.
Sounds like your typical slappy response. You guys had 5 losses that year. We had the #1 defense in the country for most of the year.
So I am not quite sure of your criteria as being relevant. Other than, you know, you being a Michigan fan and believing you are relevant.
How did that "#1 defense in the country for most of the year" work out for you in the National Championship game that you didn't belong in?
Oh yeah, now I remember.
UM v. Bama
14 41
ND v. Bama
14 42
oopsie
doopsie
April 24th, 2015 at 10:13 PM ^
Something about ND making it to that national title game didn't seem right though. They were blown out, and everyone knew they were going to be blown out. It was a really strange year in college football, and the only quality win they had was a victory over Stanford in overtime. In the last few years, ND hasn't been anything better than an average major team.
I still don't think ND is back to being considered a quality program because they still recruit well and haven't had a dominant team.
April 24th, 2015 at 10:22 PM ^
It was a weird year. We basically outplayed them in their place and threw 6 interceptions. Pitt or Boston College i forget which missed a chip shot field goal to beat them, Matt Barkley got injured the week before playing ND, Stanford got a b.s. call against them which pushed their game with ND to overtime.
April 24th, 2015 at 10:26 PM ^
And they choked away many opportunities that day.
April 25th, 2015 at 12:41 AM ^
Wasn't there a B.S. call in OT in the Stanford game, too?
Yes. Stanford got screwed by not being rewarded a touchdown that clearly crossed the plane.
Pittsburgh got triple screwed getting called for a phantom pass interference that gave ND a first and goal, Pitt missed a field goal in overtime that would have won it, an Irish defender was offsides on the kick but the ref refused to throw the flag and a ND player gave a punch to a Pitt player and not a single ref noticed it to throw the flag.
Two gifted victories by the refs in South Bend. That team had no business playing in the national title game and were predictably exposed.
during which ND had two players wearing the same jersey # on the field when Pitt missed a PAT or FG? ND wasn't flagged and should have been, which would have allowed another attempt (correct me, please, if I'm wrong, or clarify the details please).
I always mention this. ND had 2 players wearing #2 on the FG block team with a ref staring right at them. Not even a blocked view. Pitt should have been given a re-kick from what would have been XP territory if called - Wasn't. Then we throw as many INTs as points we lost by (lol), Stanford was robbed as their HB was called as not scoring when he went over on top of another player. That was BY FAR the worst NCG team in my lifetime. Maybe ever. Bama whooped us in week 1 down in Dallas. Bama ruined, absolutely ruined, ND after a complete season of dual scouting, injuries, rhythm, etc. ND wasn't even a top 10 team that year, IMO. Yet, through luck & a crazy B.S. they made it in lol
Not sure how you say he got in?
His elbow is down before he thrusts the ball into the endzone. Thats besides the point that he was already stuffed a yard and a half back. I also am not sure how you couldn't call them a top 10 team? Alabama was a buzz saw that year.
Also since you seem to want to pile on ND regardless of other results I would refresh you memory:
USC 55 Oklahoma 19
Florida 41 OSU 14
Why are you even on this board? We don't play each other anymore since your school opted out.
The likes of WF, Duke, NC St seemed more appealing.
WOW! How can this be even said? I show you the score of the 2014 Michigan vs Notre Dame game: 31-0. Let me put that in again. 31 points for Notre Dame. 0 points for Michigan. 0. Now read your post again.
April 25th, 2015 at 12:11 AM ^
Are your "years" only 6 months long?
April 25th, 2015 at 12:38 AM ^
Yeah, nobody should ever forget that Notre Dame played for the National Championship in 2013.
Because they got stomped and it was hysterical.
April 25th, 2015 at 10:05 AM ^
Who's there?
Devil's Advocate.
Devil's Advocate who?
Fuck Off!
me too.....could be the booze though
I've been burned too many times over the past decade to start celebrating prematurely, but I think we're in pretty damn good hands.
Ever thought of laying off the spices? Might mitigate the burning...unless the burning is more related to the Carlos or the Wiener...or some combination thereof.
As far as being in good hands (Mr. Spicywiener)...no comment.
April 24th, 2015 at 10:47 PM ^
I remember listening to a Les Miles interview on Sirius before their bowl game, and while he was still in discussion for the UM job - at least among the commoners - he indicated that no matter what happened there was something special about Michigan, and whoever ended up coach everyone would rally around...
He might have known at that point it was Harbaugh - because obviously not everyone rallied around RR - but its telling, and hopefully the momentum continues.
is awesome. Love the energy! The short sentences! The pugnacity!!
The only player I remember from La Jolla, CA. other than Hayden Epstein.
April 24th, 2015 at 10:14 PM ^
it feels good to compete.
April 24th, 2015 at 10:18 PM ^
that feel the same way as Stephenson. Everybody in my Michigan circle feels the same way.
April 24th, 2015 at 10:31 PM ^
We went to the Rose bowl in 2004, 2005, 2007, and Orange Bowl in 2000. The beginning of Michigan's downfall is either Lloyd Carr's last year or Rich Rod's first year. It doesn't matter though cause we got Harbaugh.
April 25th, 2015 at 12:05 AM ^
We may have gone to the Rose Bowl in 2007 but we got embarassed. We also lost 5 games in 2005 and lost to App St in 2008. The decline started way before LLoyd retired.
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We went 11-2 in 2006 and at one point were # 2 in the country and won the big ten in 2004 and 2003. 2005 sucked but it was an outlier at that point. It's not like we won the national title or anything in those years but we were pretty good.
Meh...in my mind, the downfall started in 2005. Our program started to develop a number of holes that were visible on the field: poor recruiting, questionable coaching, and players who weren't getting better. Our performance in 2007 is a complete mirage. When it is all said and done, we beat up a very bad big 10, and we lost to the only two teams that were any good. The icing on the cake was App State and then Oregon. Those two games signaled just how far we had fallen (and we are still trying to catch up).
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In particular, the OL recruiting had already started to decline leaving RR with little to build on. QB too had almost no viable depth, so that once Mallett bolted we were screwed. LInebacker, safeties, I could go on, but why bother. Because, now HARBAUGH.
April 25th, 2015 at 12:51 PM ^
We lost the Rose Bowl in 2003, 2004, and 2006. If would be different if we win one of those, but we didn't. 0-3 in Rose Bowls and lost 5 of 6 bowls overall from 2001-2006.
OSU going to the National Championship game opened the way for Michigan to actually go to some of those Rose Bowls.
Yeah, it sucked. But losing Rose Bowls on New Years Day to one of the top 3 teams in the county is not the sign of a program in decline. Even Bo did that when Michigan was "dominant".
Hell, even in 2007 we were pretty good once everyone healed up and our coaches decided to let all the future NFLers just play the game.
Our period of decline has been more like 7 years, not 15 . . . which is a moot point. It's been long enough for my tastes. It's time to start winning some meaningful games again.
Agreed.
Losing in big bowls sucks, but you have to be at least good enough to ge there.
Over the last 7 years UM Football record: 46-42
Take away the 11-2 season (the BIGs weakest year in recent memory), and we're: 35-40
The pre-2008 years "may" have been waning, but nowhere near what the last 7 years has been. Not even close.
April 24th, 2015 at 10:51 PM ^
noon and we would all be in our seats out of respect for Bo and THE TEAM
At least back in the "ancient times" (pre-ESPN) when many games were not televised.
The rest of your point stands, though: out of respect for Bo, the other coaches and especially the players, we would be in the stands in time for kick-off.
April 24th, 2015 at 11:03 PM ^
Let us not forget, Curt Stephenson still holds the record for the longest TD catch in Rose Bowl history - 76 yards from Ricky Leach.