MGlobules

January 30th, 2018 at 10:03 AM ^

over several weeks now, in explaining how this situation evolved, in the deeper administrative background, pointing quietly to who the real villains were in upper admin (Ferguson looms very large), and how cooler heads were forced out, revealing another layer of culpability/impunity. Too bad the OP does such a terrible job of introducing it or saying why we should read it. 

Robbie Moore

January 30th, 2018 at 8:44 AM ^

“This is a moment of soul-searching for anyone who has any affiliation with that university,”

"that university." She worked there and can't bring herself to actually name the place.

FieldingBLUE

January 30th, 2018 at 8:47 AM ^

she was disrespected and forced out by blubbering idiots Perles, McPherson and Ferguson, the culture that allowed Nassar was alive and well before him. she hired Izzo so MSU owes her one...even if he goes down with the whole university

Mike Damone

January 30th, 2018 at 10:27 AM ^

was a disaster as an AD.  I can remember the press conference in '94 when they fired Perles as head coach - she wasn't even there, the President of MSU had to do it.

However, she never had a chance against the good old boy network there.  Perles had stepped down as AD just to coach, and Perles and the old cronies running the show hated her, and made her life hell.  Though there is some "sour grapes" in her - that culture shut her down fast, and what she is saying rings relatively true.  She is going to be a nightmare for them in the upcoming weeks - the mistreated, Me-Too, female ex AD of MSU.  Good luck with that, Sparty...

Mr Miggle

January 30th, 2018 at 12:02 PM ^

McPherson had put public pressure on Perles more than once before. It was obviously his decision to fire him, not Baker's, even though that would normally be part of her job.

It was either grandstanding by the president or indicative of a culture where a woman wasn't going to have authority over the football program, no matter her job title. Or both.

Great Cornholio

January 30th, 2018 at 10:33 AM ^

This is the user-driven content section. You're free to pick and choose what you want to read, or to, you know, create or share additional content. Instead you clicked on a thread you supposedly didn't want to read, then took the time to post a comment questioning other users' continued interest in said story. But here you go, I'll humor you: Michigan offered 2020 Berea Heights (KY) offensive tackle Jerome McDougle yesterday. Although a middling 3* to all of the recruiting sites except ESPN, which has yet to rate him, McDougle's stock appears ready to soar based on a recent offer list including Georgia, Oklahoma, Florida State, and about half of the B1G, following on his amazing performance at the Saucony Lights Out Future Wave All-Starz Gala, where he was names "a guy to watch." When pressed for an adjective to describe him, more than one scout used the word "special" and none indicated that his motor might be low. Fade to comments...blah blah blah Trust in Harbaugh...blah blah blah why can't the class be all 5-stars?...blah blah blah love his tape...blah blah blah new assistant coach is really hitting Kentucky hard...blah blah blah yo its yo boy Franklin heah ayyight yall be callin me racist im finna be eatin at [insert shitty bbq joint here] sunday u can take my picture im furrilz yo...blah blah blah MOAR TACKLES PLZ. /Recruiting roundup

GoBLUE_SemperFi

January 30th, 2018 at 9:54 AM ^

“There is no question in my mind — and this is not a horn-honk,” Baker said, “but had I stayed through my first contract, this man (Nassar) would have been discovered, uncovered, stopped and remediated in 1997, with the first complaint."

In reply to by GoBLUE_SemperFi

Mr Miggle

January 30th, 2018 at 10:08 AM ^

If the investigation shows that following proper procedures, mandated procedures by the way, would have stopped Nassar 20 years ago, then the next step is to look at why MSU wasn't doing so. Tieing that into the football and basketball programs is the worst case scenario for them. That's what ESPN is working on.

FLwolvfan22

January 30th, 2018 at 9:13 PM ^

Family member involved? MSU Alum? Seriously, maybe take a step back and evaluate. I hated to hear about the Penn State stuff too but once you get all the rotten details from a news site, what more is there to know? It sucks, it happened, people suck, it happened. 

How bout some Michigan football which is what I escape TO from this lousy news of the world.

Indy Pete - Go Blue

January 30th, 2018 at 10:31 AM ^

Wow, this is very incriminating.  She called them out hard and called them out specifically.  If she is speaking truth, this sounds like the worst run university imaginable.  Secrecy and deceipt to protect what again?  Sports and reputation?  So many girls and women were harmed during this time frame.  May we all learn from this...

Don

January 30th, 2018 at 11:24 AM ^

—it will be a long time before that happens—it will be obvious to the world that Joel Ferguson has been nothing less than a malignant tumor within the MSU body politic since he first sat his ass down in a trustee chair.

SteamboatWolverine

January 30th, 2018 at 4:51 PM ^

The are holding on to power as a means of containing damage to the brand.  In doing so they ensure that no real change takes place.  In the last 24 hours MSU has appointed an insider to be interim president and opened an investigation into 25 year old accusations against Sue Carter (faculty who spoke out against MSU).  

They still don't get it.

NittanyFan

January 30th, 2018 at 11:30 AM ^

I get it, she has reason to be mad at Joel Ferguson and George Perles.  Those guys hamstrung her career as MSU AD, and were the primary reason she lasted only a few years.

But this quote???  "Had I stayed through my first contract, (Nassar) would have been discoverd, uncovered, stopped and remidiated in 1997, with the first complaint." 

It's ALWAYS easy to say "if only I had been there."  Just express your disappointment in Ferguson and the current admins - talk about how Ferguson has always been mucking about in things and making it tough for MSU to do the right thing - and keep it at that.

lhglrkwg

January 30th, 2018 at 11:55 AM ^

“There is no question in my mind — and this is not a horn-honk,” Baker said, “but had I stayed through my first contract, this man (Nassar) would have been discovered, uncovered, stopped and remediated in 1997, with the first complaint.
Sure seems like a horn honk. It's awfully easy to say after the fact that you - or any of us - would've done better. Hard to say if you were in charge if you really would've done it better

charblue.

January 30th, 2018 at 12:00 PM ^

sore. The usual result of these cases is that everyone who could have played a role in stopping something, will come under scrutiny and then blame will be assessed and the greater the outrage, the louder the cry for ouster.

Izzo's program arose from the ashes of the post Fab Five booster payment scandal. It resulted in a complete change of direction for Michigan basketball and enabled Izzo to grow his program without serious national threat inside the state. He took complete advantage and the success of his program led to a similar rise in Sparty football fortunes once Lloyd Carr retired and Michigan botched the hiring of his replacement and Dantonio prospered in the coaching void.

Recognizing how scandal and indecision tore apart and disrupted Michigan's basketball and football success, MSU has never allowed the hint of similar problems to swallow up their programs until now. Maybe there has been a method behind their success in March Madness. Or maybe they realize the consequences of washing your dirty launder in public and then hanging it out to dry instead of just putting it in a rinse and wash spin cycle?

 

 

 

1VaBlue1

January 30th, 2018 at 12:47 PM ^

Not sure I'm buying what your selling, here...  Yes, Izzo started when Steve Fisher annihilated UM bball, but Judd Heathcote's bball program wasn't exactly a bottom-feeding organization.  His last season was 22-6, not even 'hard times'!  There is no argument to be made for Izzo's program growing because UM's bball fortunes tanked.

MSU football, OTOH, grew up under the wandering eye of Bill Martin - who was watching (partaking in) sailing competitions as his football program burned.  Yes, MSU football under Mick Damtony got good when Michigan wasn't paying enough attention to football.  However, where I disagree with you here, is that I doubt it was any willfull  action on MSU's part to take advantage while Michigan was down.  I just think it worked out for Dimtania - right place, right time kinda thing.

I believe the dumbassery that runs that joint did nothing more than try to protect its star athletes because they like sports.  I have a hard time believing they purposly took advantage of something so nebulous as downturns in sporting fortune.  They just don't seem that smart, or perceptive, to me...

UMxWolverines

January 30th, 2018 at 1:22 PM ^

Dantonio was a national championship winning defensive coordinator at OSU. He was going to build a program no matter if we were bad or not. Obviously Rich Rod pissing off high school coaches in state didn't help, but it was far from the reason they rose up, they made themselves a nice pipeline from Ohio also. Izzo was going to do well also, I don't know how many of the Flintstones we recruited, but obviously Cleaves going to MSU helped a ton, but we were gonna be bad either way with Ellerbe as a coach.

crg

January 30th, 2018 at 1:59 PM ^

If it were that easy, Saban would have had MSU as a national power while he was there. Dantonio is certainly better than John L. Smith, but that is not exactly a high bar to exceed. I am certain that MSU would never have exceeded being average or above-average in the conference had UM not self-imploded in the late 2000's.

snarling wolverine

January 30th, 2018 at 4:55 PM ^

His last season was 22-6, not even 'hard times'! There is no argument to be made for Izzo's program growing because UM's bball fortunes tanked.

It's misleading to pull that record out of context. MSU had a senior-led team and overachieved in '95. They then missed the tourney the next two years.

A glance at Heathcoate's coaching record shows he really didn't do that much beyond the two years he had Magic Johnson.

Roy G. Biv

January 30th, 2018 at 12:22 PM ^

Her comment about protecting the brand over people is, IMO, the very heart of the problem. If they had outed Nasser immediately, the PR plaudits would have rolled in. That a predator was on the staff to a certain extent was beyond their control . . . Nassers exist in just about every walk of life. I think MSU feared short-sightedly the repercussions of Nassers ills becoming public. Long term, for immediately dismissing/ prosecuting Nasser, MSU would have received universal acclaim for rooting out and dealing harshly with a predator. Sure there may have been questions as to why Nasser was there to begin with, but the news is filled every day with stories of brilliant, talented people with ugly demons. They can't be identified until they make a mistake.

Mongo

January 30th, 2018 at 1:51 PM ^

with hundreds of complaints against Nassar to investigate.  I mean he is getting 175 years in prison for this and MSU couldn't follow-up on complaints that started like 20 years ago?  That is just absurd to think could happen anywhere in today's society.  You put that together with the whole sexual assault issues out of the football & basketball programs, the conclusion is the Athletic Department is corrupt and needs to be gutted.  I think the NCAA is going to come down hard on MSU when this is all said and done.  Like a really bad outcome for MSU, far beyond losing TI and MD as coaches. 

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

January 30th, 2018 at 2:05 PM ^

was the unspecified magnitude of the consequences especially related to Title IX by the two attorneys. When attorneys cannot even articulate the potential scenarios because a situation is so egregious & unprecedented, it makes you fathom how far up shit creek MSU is without a paddle.

UM Griff

January 30th, 2018 at 10:21 PM ^

Could have done to stop Nassar from his horrible crimes, but it would have to be better than the complete meltdown that the Simon/Hollis era has turned out to be. And now we have Engler returning to the stage - God help us all.