Home
i'm an actor, not a reactor

Primary links

  • About
    • $upport (lol)
    • Ethics
    • FAQ
    • Glossary
    • Privacy Policy
  • Contact
  • MGoStore
    • Hail to Old Blue
  • MGoBoard
    • MGoBoard FAQ
    • Michigan bar locator
    • Moderator Action Sticky
  • Useful Stuff
    • Depth Chart By Class
    • Hoops Depth Chart by Class
    • 2017 Recruiting Board
    • Unofficial Two Deep
    • MGoFlickr
    • Diaries, Windows Live Writer, And You
    • User-Curated HOF
    • Where To Eat In Ann Arbor
  • Schedule/Tix
    • Future Schedules (wiki)
    • Ticket spreadsheet
Home Forums MGoBoard

Navigation

  • Forums
  • Recent posts

User login

  • Create new account
  • Request new password

MGoElsewhere

  • @MGoBlog (Brian)
  • @aceanbender
  • @Misopogon (Seth)
  • @Aeschnepp (Adam)
  • @BISB
  • @EUpchurchPhoto
  • @FullOfTwitt (Fuller)
  • Hail to the Victors 2016
  • MGoFacebook
  • MGoPodcast
  • WTKA
  • Instagram

Michigan Blogs

  • Big House Blog
  • Burgeoning Wolverine Star
  • Genuinely Sarcastic
  • Go Blue Michigan Wolverine
  • Holdin' The Rope
  • MVictors
  • Maize 'n' Blue Nation
  • Maize 'n' Brew
  • Maize And Go Blue
  • Michigan Hockey Net
  • MMMGoBlueBBQ
  • The Blog That Yost Built
  • The Hoover Street Rag
  • The M Zone
  • Touch The Banner
  • UMGoBlog
  • UMHoops
  • UMTailgate
  • Wolverine Liberation Army

M On The Net

  • mgovideo
  • MGoBlue.com
  • Mike DeSimone
  • Recruiting Planet
  • The Wolverine
  • Go Blue Wolverine
  • Winged Helmet
  • UMGoBlue.com
  • MaizeRage.org
  • Puckhead
  • The M Den
  • True Blue Fan Forum

Big Ten Blogs

  • Illinois
    • Illinois Loyalty
    • Illinois Baseball Report
  • Indiana
    • Inside The Hall
    • The Crimson Quarry
  • Iowa
    • Black Heart, Gold Pants
    • Fight For Iowa
  • Michigan State
    • The Only Colors
  • Minnesota
    • GopherHole.com
    • The Daily Gopher
  • Nebraska
    • Corn Nation
    • Husker Max
    • Husker Mike's Blasphemy
    • Husker Gameday
  • Northwestern
    • Sippin' On Purple
    • Lake The Posts
  • Notre Dame
    • The House Rock Built
    • One Foot Down
  • Ohio State
    • Eleven Warriors
    • Buckeye Commentary
    • Men of the Scarlet and Gray
    • Our Honor Defend
    • The Buckeye Nine
  • Penn State
    • Slow States
    • Black Shoe Diaries
    • Happy Valley Hardball
    • Penn State Clips
    • Linebacker U
    • Nittany White Out
  • Purdue
    • Boiled Sports
    • Hammer and Rails
  • Wisconsin
    • Bruce Ciskie

Links of Note

  • Baseball
    • College Baseball Today
    • The College Baseball Blog
  • Basketball
    • Ken Pomeroy
    • Hoop Math
    • John Gasaway
    • Luke Winn/Sports Illustrated
  • College Hockey
    • Chris Heisenberg (Class of 2016)
    • College Hockey Stats
    • Michigan College Hockey
    • Hockey's Future
    • Sioux Sports
    • USCHO
  • Football
    • Smart Football
    • Every Day Should Be Saturday
    • Matt Hinton/Grantland
    • Football Study Hall
    • Football Outsiders
    • Harold Stassen
    • NCAA D-I Stats Page
    • The Wizard Of Odds
    • CFB Stats
  • General
    • Sports Central
  • Local Interest
    • The Ann Arbor Chronicle
    • Arborwiki
    • Arbor Update
    • Ann Arbor Observer
    • Teeter Talk
    • Vacuum
  • Teams Of The D
    • Lions
      • Pride of Detroit
    • Pistons
      • Detroit Bad Boys
      • Need4Sheed
    • Tigers
      • Roar Of The Tigers
      • Bless You Boys
      • The Daily Fungo
      • The Detroit Tigers Weblog
    • Red Wings
      • Winging It In Motown
      • On The Wings
    • Michigan Sports Forum

Beveled Guilt

Site Search

Diaries

  • New
  • Popular
  • Hot
  • 14 Months Ago: The Fire Beilein Threads.
    stephenrjking - 3 weeks ago
  • Loyola-Chicago: A First Glance
    Bambi - 4 weeks ago
  • ‹‹
  • 2 of 2
  •  
more
  • This Month in MGoBlog History - April 2008: No Spring Game at the Big House! Hockey loses to ND in the Frozen Four!
    Maize.Blue Wagner - 1,267 views
  • This Month in MGoBlog History - April 2008: No Spring Game at the Big House! Hockey loses to ND in the Frozen Four!
    Maize.Blue Wagner - 8 comments

MGoBoard

  • New
  • Recent
  • Hot
  • Michigan Alumni Club Scholarship Golf Tournament featuring Honorary Chair Glen Rice - This Saturday in Miami!
    4 replies
  • Hello? Boring Tuesday POSbang Happy Hour Thread
    98 replies
  • OT: UCL Semi-final First Legs
    14 replies
  • More evidence of awful culture at MSU, volleyball this time
    58 replies
  • OT: Rick Pitino Rumored to be Candidate for Detroit Mercy Job
    75 replies
  • New Jersey DE Aeneas DiCosmo: Prospect we should all want at UM
    54 replies
  • In-state recruiting rankings update
    122 replies
  • A piece of U-M broadcast history ends tonight.
    28 replies
  • Crootin': Joey Velazquez
    78 replies
  • OT: College Football video games coming back
    90 replies
  • LaMarr Woodley Opening K-8 School in Saginaw
    43 replies
  • SIAP: Jay Feely prom "controversy"
    36 replies
  • Pep and Partridge Pressers
    11 replies
  • Michigan Vs Notre Dame in 131 days
    83 replies
  • WBB Hello: 2020 G/W Makailah Griggs-Zeigler
    12 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 6
  • ››
  • Hello? Boring Tuesday POSbang Happy Hour Thread
    98 replies
  • In-state recruiting rankings update
    122 replies
  • OT: Rick Pitino Rumored to be Candidate for Detroit Mercy Job
    75 replies
  • More evidence of awful culture at MSU, volleyball this time
    58 replies
  • New Jersey DE Aeneas DiCosmo: Prospect we should all want at UM
    54 replies
  • Michigan Alumni Club Scholarship Golf Tournament featuring Honorary Chair Glen Rice - This Saturday in Miami!
    4 replies
  • A piece of U-M broadcast history ends tonight.
    28 replies
  • Pep and Partridge Pressers
    11 replies
  • OT: UCL Semi-final First Legs
    14 replies
  • Crootin': Joey Velazquez
    78 replies
  • WBB Hello: 2020 G/W Makailah Griggs-Zeigler
    12 replies
  • LaMarr Woodley Opening K-8 School in Saginaw
    43 replies
  • Michigan Vs Notre Dame in 131 days
    83 replies
  • OT: College Football video games coming back
    90 replies
  • OT: Tigers at the 1/8th point
    59 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 6
  • ››
  • Belleville coach Jermain Crowell mad at UM again
    244 replies
  • "Being Not-Rich at UM" Guide
    168 replies
  • The Evolution of Commerce - What Industries are Dying, What's Thriving?
    148 replies
  • Pep Hamilton on Shea: Can extend the play, make all the throws, plus other QB's
    129 replies
  • In-state recruiting rankings update
    122 replies
  • OT - Jalen Hurts possibly looking to transfer
    121 replies
  • Notre Dame Spring Game: analysis from M n B, video
    119 replies
  • No additional protest of Shea Patterson appeal by Ole Miss
    113 replies
  • OT: MSU digs hole deeper, Engler adviser: Nassar survivor's claims of payout 'fake news'
    106 replies
  • Nebraska football
    105 replies
  • Hello? Boring Tuesday POSbang Happy Hour Thread
    98 replies
  • OT: Map of college stadiums that sell alcohol
    96 replies
  • Karsen Barnhart - did we cool on him?
    92 replies
  • OT: College Football video games coming back
    90 replies
  • UCF Knights unveil 2017 championship banner
    89 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 6
  • ››

Support MGoBlog: buy stuff at Amazon

Forcier = Heisman? Really?

27 posts / 0 new
Login or register to post comments
Last post
September 16th, 2009 at 3:49 PM
#1
BostonWolverine
BostonWolverine's picture
Joined: 11/13/2008
MGoPoints: 6557
Forcier = Heisman? Really?

Take a peek here: http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=989142 .

What you see will terrify you. At the very least, it scared the hell out of me.

I hate this stuff. This guy has played two games. Two. Games. He's looked good for the most part. He made a few bad throws and his receivers have bailed him out by making tough catches (see: Kevin Koger's acrobatic grab against Western).

Why, I mean, why on earth is THIS the result of two wins? You want to talk about overinflated expectations? Jesus, man.

I suppose this is what you get for starting 2-0 after a down year and a tumultuous offseason.

Wait and see if he throws for 4 scores against Penn State. Then we'll talk. I doubt it'll happen, though. I live in the world of realistic expectations.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
Tags:
  • MGoBoard
  • no no no please no
  • premature canonization
  • tempting the fates

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
September 16th, 2009 at 3:53 PM
#2
Adrian
Adrian's picture
Joined: 08/12/2009
MGoPoints: 4159
Who cares? Before we were

Before we were complaining about the bad press now were not happy with Forcier getting praise? Well eventually there will be a freshman Heisman why not Forcier? I agree its a little too early to tell but just read and enjoy the good press were getting

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 4:33 PM
(Reply to #2) #3
James Burrill Angell
James Burrill Angell's picture
Joined: 08/12/2009
MGoPoints: 12913
Not Really!!

C'mon y'all. Tebow had an outstanding freshman year and didn't get it. Needless to say a freshman would not only have to do it better than the rest, they would have to do it WAY better than the rest.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 4:52 PM
(Reply to #15) #4
Sommy
Sommy's picture
Joined: 07/29/2008
MGoPoints: 2835
Tebow played a red zone-only

Tebow played a red zone-only situational role his freshman year. I don't think anyone would have considered him for the Heisman.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 3:53 PM
#5
jmblue
Joined: 11/07/2008
MGoPoints: 56299
Seriously, some of you guys

Seriously, some of you guys need to stop being such downers. Obviously, he's not going to win it. But hey, it's fun to have him get some pub. It's good for the program to get positive attention, especially after the last miserable last 12 months we just had.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 3:54 PM
#6
MichIOE01
MichIOE01's picture
Joined: 11/19/2008
MGoPoints: 105
Really?

This scares the hell out of you?

Not seeing Stevie Brown at safety? Not seeing Sheridan taking snaps? This is the thing that scares you?

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 4:01 PM
#7
BostonWolverine
BostonWolverine's picture
Joined: 11/13/2008
MGoPoints: 6557
I love the good press. I just

I love the good press. I am thrilled that Sheridan didn't get any playing time, and I agree that Tate deserves some publicity. He's going to be an excellent player for our program (and perhaps beyond) in the years to come. I just don't like it when people act like the world is gorgeous again with a tiny sample size.

In MLB this year, Emilio Bonifacio started his first six games 14 for 24 with a home run and 4 Stolen bases. Every column in the baseball world was hailing the emergence of this guy. He has 21 SB now in 450 AB, is hitting .251 and hasn't hit a home run since.

My point? I just wish the hype machine would stop with this all-or-nothing crap. I'm not being a downer. I'm just a little bit wary of anyone being dubbed the second coming this fast. I hope he is, but this is a lot to have to keep up.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 3:58 PM
#8
Plegerize
Plegerize's picture
Joined: 03/26/2009
MGoPoints: 1807
Let's hope in the same way

Let's hope in the same way Tate doesn't get nervous in games, he doesn't get too full of himself when people talk him up.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 4:09 PM
(Reply to #6) #9
Adrian
Adrian's picture
Joined: 08/12/2009
MGoPoints: 4159
I guess you havent been

I guess you havent been following Michigan
"I don’t get nervous" just one of many of Forciers quotes saying he doesnt get nervous during games

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 4:54 PM
(Reply to #8) #10
Sommy
Sommy's picture
Joined: 07/29/2008
MGoPoints: 2835
You may want to reread what

You may want to reread what he wrote.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 4:01 PM
#11
Blue Bennie
Blue Bennie's picture
Joined: 03/02/2009
MGoPoints: 296
It's fine for us to read. It

It's fine for us to read. It seems ridiculous, but who cares. Take it for what it is.

However, I would hope that the players wouldn't read too much of this, just as I hoped that they didn't read too much of the Free Press garbage.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 4:17 PM
#12
DCBlue
DCBlue's picture
Joined: 07/11/2008
MGoPoints: 500
It's just Sports Porn

I mean, the 90 million sports internet sites have to have something to put up. The days of reading an old-fashioned newspaper article are WAY over. I mean, for shit's sake, I'm on MGoBlog 20 hours a day. Without fluff articles like this, what the hell would I do at work?

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 4:20 PM
#13
BostonWolverine
BostonWolverine's picture
Joined: 11/13/2008
MGoPoints: 6557
Sudoku?

Sudoku?

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 4:34 PM
(Reply to #10) #14
DCBlue
DCBlue's picture
Joined: 07/11/2008
MGoPoints: 500
Kind of reminds me of..

a comment from one of my law school classmates at Michigan. We're sitting in class, discussing the nuances of employment discrimination and race relations, and this really irritating a-hole law student posed the following hypothetical: "What if all the blacks lined up on one side of State Street and all the whites lined up on the other side. And you had to pick a side. Where would you go, my GOD where would you go."

My friend, not waiting for the professor to respond, said: "South U?"

One of my best memories from law school.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 4:24 PM
#15
BiSB
BiSB's picture
Joined: 08/15/2009
MGoPoints: 44839
I'm sure...

...they're just talking about Tate accepting the Heisman on behalf of Zoltan.

The Space Emperor is already busy that night. He's accepting the first ever combination Nobel Peace Prize/Dancing With The Stars Title/Grammy Award.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 4:26 PM
#16
Steve in PA
Steve in PA's picture
Joined: 08/10/2009
MGoPoints: 5421
Ron Powlus

He's a few years younger than me but from the same area. I remember watching the ND games and Beano declaring him ready for 2 Heisman. He never recovered from that pressure.

He was a great HS QB that went to a running team even though he had offers from schools like Florida State. System and pressure killed him.

I hope Tate gets to enjoy the game of football rather than carrying all that weight of expectations.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 4:30 PM
(Reply to #13) #17
DCBlue
DCBlue's picture
Joined: 07/11/2008
MGoPoints: 500
Paraphrasing the words of Texas Senator Lloyd Bentson:

I know Ron Powlus. I saw Ron Powlus play. Ron Powlus is NOT a friend of mine. Tate Forcier is no Ron Powlus.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 4:42 PM
(Reply to #14) #18
Steve in PA
Steve in PA's picture
Joined: 08/10/2009
MGoPoints: 5421
"Tate Forcier is no Ron

"Tate Forcier is no Ron Powlus."

That's my point. And I hope he doesn't become one.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 4:48 PM
(Reply to #17) #19
DCBlue
DCBlue's picture
Joined: 07/11/2008
MGoPoints: 500
I think we agree with each other

Plus, just wait, as soon as Forcier has a mediocre game (let alone a bad one) there will be plenty of idiots coming out of the woodwork to bitch. Just like, if Robinson gets a chance for sustained play against Eastern or Indiana and tears it up, you can bet there will be multiple board posts/discussions about who the quarterback should be.

My point? Portions of the Michigan fan base, like any other, are prone to irrational exuberance on the one hand and throwing themselves off a building on the other. I try to be somewhere in the middle, and just enjoy the current state of affairs.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 4:37 PM
#20
West Texas Blue
West Texas Blue's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 1843
Yeah, the Forcier for Heisman

Yeah, the Forcier for Heisman is pretty crazy, but I'll take every bit of positive, good stories on Michigan football. Only one sophomore has won the Heisman (Tebow), so I doubt a freshman could win it unless his team won the MNC, puts up ridiculous stats, and all the upperclassmen who were Heisman contenders flat out stunk.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 5:09 PM
(Reply to #16) #21
M-Go-Bleu
Joined: 09/16/2009
MGoPoints: 0
I don't understand the QB rating

How is it that Tate is number 21. He seems to be better across all statistical categories that most of those above him. Also, can anyone tell me what mistakes he has made. I can't seem to recall any real big mistakes that were on Forcier. Even Matthews took the blame for his one interception.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 6:35 PM
(Reply to #16) #22
R_mahorn1974
R_mahorn1974's picture
Joined: 03/22/2009
MGoPoints: 129
Is Bradford the only Sophmore

Is Bradford the only Sophmore redshirt to win it too?

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 4:43 PM
#23
BostonWolverine
BostonWolverine's picture
Joined: 11/13/2008
MGoPoints: 6557
Tate has some confidence.

Tate has some confidence. Some serious confidence - verging on cockiness. Honestly, I think M could use a little swagger, a little moxie. I love that about him.

A little background on previous posts: This article was a third strike for me. I have heard from (plural) people the following comparisons for Tate Forcier in the past week: 1) Tiger Woods. 2) Tim Tebow.

Then there was this article. Maybe I had a slightly more visceral reaction as a result of that. Even though Tebow bugs me, he's a winner. So is Tiger (and I think people are seeing Tate's "I've been getting ready for this my whole life" quote with little Eldrick Woods hitting a golf ball with his dad).

To borrow from Aaron Sorkin/Toby Ziegler:
"You wanna tempt the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing? Go outside, turn around three times and spit."

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 6:34 PM
#24
R_mahorn1974
R_mahorn1974's picture
Joined: 03/22/2009
MGoPoints: 129
Does anyone know how close

Does anyone know how close braford was his fresh yr(rs) to win heisman? I know he had 30 tds.

As a True fresh, if Tate throws 30-35 tds(Mich record is 24), and has a couple rushing tds, he should be considered. A 18 yr old doing that is redic!

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 11:10 PM
#25
Clair Voyant
Clair Voyant's picture
Joined: 09/16/2009
MGoPoints: 22
Tate will not win the Heisman

Tate will not win the Heisman Trophy this year but do not be surprised to see him LeviTate against those Ohio Staters

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2009 at 11:27 PM
#26
b-diddy
b-diddy's picture
Joined: 08/29/2009
MGoPoints: 56
Heisman rankings / any

Heisman rankings / any rankings are irrelevant in September. Usually they are still based on the author's preseason guesses on who will be the best, and not on what has actually happened or at all indicative of what will happen.

Sit back, enjoy the fact that someone was actually paying enough attention to acknowledge that forcier indeed had a heismanyish start to the season, and shut up. it might be years or never again that tate is mentioned with heisman buzz. this is not the first time he's gotten over the top praise, its not like he's gonna be a totally different qb now that some guy no one cares about has mentioned him in a heisman buzz blog.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
September 17th, 2009 at 11:14 AM
#27
allHAILthedeath...
allHAILthedeathbacker56's picture
Joined: 04/13/2009
MGoPoints: 47
check it

I started it first: http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/question-espn-insiderstate-heisman

Oh, and someone at ESPN agrees, kinda: http://espn.go.com/college-football/heisman09/index

And for the record, yes I know it won't happen. However, if by some crazy aligning of the planets it does, you heard it first out of my mouth...err...fingers.

Top
  • Login or register to post comments
Powered by Drupal, an open source content management system
Theme provided by Roopletheme; sidebars adapted from Chris Murphy.