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Football Coaches Contract Info Released (except for Hoke)

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Michigan, according to contract obtained today, will pay Greg Mattison $750K/year with chance to make $900K if the team wins Big Ten title.
 
Close to a million a year for Mattison if the team wins the conference. Also said that Hoke's contract is not yet finalized.
 
EDIT: From DetNews, Borges to make 350K, Hecklinski 225K and the other assistants 200K.
 
http://detnews.com/article/20110224/SPORTS0201/102240480/1361/rss41

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:18 PM | $350K for Borges is a hair (Score:1)
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$350K for Borges is a hair lower than I'd have guessed for a guy with a pretty long resumé that includes a Broyles Award.  Position coaches look to be doing very well.

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:21 PM | I'm just glad that most the coaches (Score:1)
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Will be making more than Cam Newton while he was at Auburn

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February 24th, 2011 at 7:53 PM | Coincidentally this was just (Score:1)
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Coincidentally this was just tweeted:

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"Contract for LSU OC Steve Kragthorpe will be presented for approval to the LSU Board of Supervisors in March; his proposed salary is $700K."

 

Interesting to compare SEC spending to Michigan.

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February 24th, 2011 at 8:05 PM | LOL (Score:1)
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KRAGTHORPE'D

Hide ya kids, hide ya wife.

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:04 PM | Hopefully he proves to be (Score:1)
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Hopefully he proves to be worth it, but as of now I'd say its already began paying off in recruiting.

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February 24th, 2011 at 9:00 PM | How so? (Score:1)
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How so?

"After all was said and done, there was nothing left to do."

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:05 PM | anyone know what Mattison (Score:1)
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anyone know what Mattison made in the NFL? I like the loaded incentive part though, lots of motivation. I hope he shows Big Will how to finally utilize himself on D.

 

 

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February 25th, 2011 at 12:46 AM | Yeah I bet the reason Rich (Score:1)
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Yeah I bet the reason Rich Rod couldn't win the big games was because the coaching staff wasn't properly motivated.  They tried to win based on love of michigan but obviously a real michigan man needs some financial in$entives to give a shit.

You gotta bring that "business" mastermind-ness to the game, and DB knows this.  I bet he didn't overlook how motivated Cam Newton looked last year. 

I mean really, who wants to win if you don't get anything $weet for it?  You really think I would still root for Michigan if I wasn't getting checks in the mail from DB for my effort on a weekly basis?

I just hope the $150k bonus for Mattison is enough to win the Big Ten championship.  I'd hate to come close and lose just because we weren't willing to pay the extra $50k or $75k more it would take to lock it up.

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:06 PM | That seems to be on par with (Score:1)
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That seems to be on par with other top coordinators. He deserves it if he can deliver (which I think he will). It's nice to see our assistants finally making some real coin.

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:45 PM | Old v. New (Score:1)
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Outside of Mattison, the difference isn't that great between what the previous assistants were making and the new staff.  Assuming Hoke gets $1.5M, the difference between the total staff salaries would probably be rather negligible.

For the record, the top 3 assistants on Rich's staff were:
C. Magee - $285k

G. Robinson - $273k

T. Gibson - 224.7k

The rest of the coaches were getting about ~$185k except for Braithwaite at $135k, but you can see these (and the rest of your favorite Athletic Department personnel) here:  http://www.umsalary.info/deptsearch.php?Dept=Athletics&Year=0&Campus=

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February 24th, 2011 at 7:50 PM | Negligible? (Score:1)
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200% more for one coordinator, 25% more for the other and 10-15% more for the rest of them isn't negligible. It's seriously more money.

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:11 PM | Section 1 is going to flip (Score:1)
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Section 1 is going to flip his shit.

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:14 PM | Why? It's detnews, not freep. (Score:1)
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Why? It's detnews, not freep.

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:23 PM | Because Mattison is making so (Score:1)
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Because Mattison is making so much more than G-Rob was.  Section 1's been talking about it since Hoke was hired, how he was waiting to see how much money the DC was making, because he believed that RichRod should have been given a fair amount of money to bring in Casteel or someone else to run the defense.  I'm sure he'll be here soon enough, assuming he doesn't slit his wrists when he sees the story.

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:46 PM | 2 comments (Score:1)
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1) Casteel doesn't deserve $900K, and turned RR down at least once before (if not twice)

2) Who says that RR wanted to fire GERG? Even if he did, a new DC (especially one making $900K) would want to hire his own staff, and who is to say that RR would be cool with new guy firing RR's friends? He hired GERG for a reason, and that reason was that GERG would keep RR's staff and wouldn't bitch about them like Shaffer did.

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:56 PM | I'm not making any of these (Score:1)
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I'm not making any of these arguments.  I do not want to speak any further for Section 1, we already hate each other with a passion.  You'll have to ask him.

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

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February 24th, 2011 at 7:12 PM | "hate" (Score:1)
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You definitely are exhibiting feelings but I don't believe hate is the word you are so desperately seeking to share.

Perhaps "passion" was a small Freudian slip on your part.

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February 24th, 2011 at 8:33 PM | No, I hate Section 1. I really do. (Score:1)
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If he died, I would honestly be happy.  I feel bad for his family for having to deal with him all of their lives.  He's a miserable human being.  

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

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February 24th, 2011 at 8:54 PM | Thanks! (Score:1)
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You already made the substantive argument for me, re: Casteel and Michigan assistant salaries.

As for personal meltdowns, I think you own the record.  I'm doin' fine.  John U. Bacon's book due out in the fall might be a lot of fun.

Have a nice day. 

 

 

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:15 PM | (No subject) (Score:1)
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February 24th, 2011 at 5:17 PM | RR is going to flip his shit (Score:1)
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RR is going to flip his shit

'Murica & Footbaw: That's what Michigan Does

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:19 PM | I don't know.  Some claim (Score:1)
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I don't know.  Some claim that Brandon gave him the month of December to find a top-notch DC, with salary apparently not a factor, and he was unable to convince one to come.

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:36 PM | That never happened (Score:1)
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not while RR is preparing for Gator Bowl.

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February 24th, 2011 at 6:02 PM | Do you know this for a fact, (Score:1)
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Do you know this for a fact, or are you assuming so because we were in a bowl?  Coaches make assistant hires in December all the time, even when they're prepping for the game.

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February 24th, 2011 at 6:14 PM | Know this for a fact (Score:1)
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Dave Brandon never told RR to find a DC in December.

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February 24th, 2011 at 6:22 PM | There are reasonably (Score:1)
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There are reasonably connected people saying the exact opposite: that Brandon not only laid that ultimatum down, but that RR pretty much knew by the time of the Bust that he wasn't going to be able to land anyone high-profile, leading to his emotional response.

The record will probably never be made clear. 

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February 24th, 2011 at 6:58 PM | So are you Dave Brandon or (Score:1)
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So are you Dave Brandon or RR?

Let's eat Grandpa.

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February 24th, 2011 at 9:23 PM | "RR is going to flip HIS shit..." (Score:1)
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That's really the point.  Not too many folks are going to worry about what I think.

There were, in all liklihood, at least three major efforts to lure Jeff Casteel to Ann Arbor.  Everybody knows perfectly well that Greg Robinson wasn't the first, second or perhaps even third choice for the job.

And this isn't a knock on Brandon, either, who I am convinced clearly recognized the problem and knew it had to be fixed, with or without a million-dollar DC.  It may be that the fault lies with Bill Martin, although I don't know enough to make that kind of an allegation yet.  It will be interesting from my persepective, because all along I have been one of the most determined defenders of Martin, for what he did with the Stadium and with Athletic Department finances.  But it really does appear that Michigan cheaped its way out of one of the best DC's in the nation and one of the most important hires it could have made, in Casteel.  With devastating effects on the program under Rodriguez.

Also funny is the fact that only way after the fact, are a handful of bloggers figuring this story out.  Way back when, when RR was hired, Drew Sharp said, wrongly, that Bill Martin's "legacy" would hinge on the success of Rodriguez.  It doesn't, of course.  We'll be looking at, and talking about, the Stadium renovation even when people can no longer remember what happened in 2008-10.  And naturally, Sharp recently repeated himself (it is all that he does, mostly) in saying that David Brandon's "legacy" now depends on the Hoke hire.  Yada yada yada. 

Meanwhile, the real story (like so many interesting and important stories that the Freep guys were too lazy or too stupid to do) was the long-running negotiation with Jeff Casteel.  As I say, I do hope John U. Bacon sheds some light on this.  I have a feeling he will.

 

 

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February 24th, 2011 at 10:07 PM | Question (Score:1)
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I realize you probably get this question a lot, but what is the title of the book by John U. Bacon, whom exactly is he, approximately when will be the book be released, and what tidbits are you looking forward to/hoping for besides the ones you outlined in your post?

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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February 24th, 2011 at 11:14 PM | ... (Score:1)
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Title is Third and Long: Three Years with Rich Rodriguez and the Michigan Wolverines.

Publisher is Farrar, Straus & Giroux.

Publication date is "this fall..."

John is a lecturer at Michigan.  I once said he was in LS&A, then somebody corrected me and said he was in American Studies, which I thought was part of LS&A, but whatever.  His course on the History of Sportswriting (and others, perhaps) is one of the most popular sold-out classes at Michigan.  Several guys on this Board have taken it.  Me, I am too old.

John has a blog, and a local radio show on Saturdays.

John got close to Bo Schembechler before Bo died, and asked Bo if he could look through Bo's collected papers.  Which turned out to be an amazing treasure trove.  John became Bo's informal archivist, and it turned into the book, "Bo's Lasting Lessons."

He's a great speaker.  If your dinner group needs a U-M speaker, there is none better than John.

I am looking forward to the whole book.  I am looking forward to being surprised, and not just having all of my prejudices and presumptions confirmed.  I hope that Bacon demolishes the Free Press once and for all.  I hope he puts up a thoughtful defense of Rich Rodriguez.  I hope John finds some way to write something special about Michigan football.  I am confident those things will happen, because I believe in the truth.

 

 

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February 25th, 2011 at 12:27 AM | Huh? (Score:1)
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Read the posted question immediately preceding my answer...?

 

 

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February 25th, 2011 at 1:37 AM | Thanks for the info. (Score:1)
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I'm interested in reading something written at a higher level than Tradition (which is a great book, but reads like a third-grader wrote it at times).  I'll check out Bo's Lasting Lessons and 3rd and Long for sure.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:22 PM | Hahaha my first... (Score:1)
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My first thought, as well.

It does look like DB has paid the "market value" to which he kept referring. I like that Michigan is paying positional coaches well, also. I think continuity is going to be huge for this team and there are few programs that can and will pay their positional coaches that kind of money.

We'll see. I'll be watching Borges salary the most. I hope he can earn a raise in the next couple years because that will mean he's done a good job with Denard. I see Mattison having too much success and experience to not get us back to playing strong D.

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:31 PM | They've certainly paid top (Score:1)
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They've certainly paid top dollar in Mattison's case. Rittenberg just tweeted that Mattison is now the highest paid assistant in the Big Ten.

I'm a little surprised about Borges too. Not as high-profile but has a strong resume nonetheless.

And nice to see the position coaches getting some love as well.

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:27 PM | For scratch like that (Score:1)
Don Keypunch
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I'll be a position coach. I want to coach the kickers, can't be too hard to do. Line up, kick oblong ball through uprights, repeat as necessary. Coaching accomplished.

"But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies." - Kenny Powers

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:52 PM | Are you sure you weren't (Score:1)
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Are you sure you weren't coaching our kickers last season?

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:39 PM | Two years too late (Score:1)
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DB shoulda thrown that money out there the offseason between Shafer and Robinson

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:47 PM | Seeing as DB wasn't AD at (Score:1)
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Seeing as DB wasn't AD at that point, it's pretty hard to blame him for that.

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:44 PM | According to my math, this is about the going rate. (Score:1)
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Mattison = $900K

Borges = $350K

Hecklinski = $225K

6 others @ $200K each = $1,200K

Total = $2.675 million for all assistants.

This article (it's maybe 2 years old?) states that would put us about 5th. That's pretty good, IMO

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2009-coaches-contracts-d...

 

"They're stuck with that quarterback (sophomore Braxton Miller) for the next two or three years, that's fine with me. He throws worse than (Tim) Tebow. - Steve Everitt

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:54 PM | So I guess that this is what (Score:1)
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So I guess that this is what DB meant when he said he would open up the wallet.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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February 24th, 2011 at 7:58 PM | Yet still (Score:1)
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I'm pissed that Nick Saban will still be making more than all of our coaches combined.

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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February 24th, 2011 at 7:10 PM | IMO (Score:1)
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I would rather have the job and make less than 2 million a year and invest in great assistants.  Making 2 million a year and keeping your job for 15 years is cooler than making 3 or 4 million and losing it after a couple.  In the long run of course.  Hoke is surrounding himself with good coaches and thats all that matters,

"Wasn't that Michigan drive just great.  That's like Patton riding into Berlin." ~Bob Ufer

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February 24th, 2011 at 11:50 PM | Lets not worry too much over (Score:1)
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Lets not worry too much over the money lets just hope Mattison is worth it as a coach and recruiter and that everything works out. We have plenty of money lets just get wins

Mitch McGary is a wall

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