I assume a full injury report is coming, but this is from Coach Rod's radio interview this evening:
This is maaaaybe premature there, ESPN. Maryland #1 FWIW.
I assume a full injury report is coming, but this is from Coach Rod's radio interview this evening:
This might sound somewhat sick, but I hope that Boobi is seriously hindered by that shoulder. If not, it just confirms that a man that is slower than a good portion of DE's has taken his spot on the depth chart. This is not good
I think we're gonna have to trust the coaches on this one. We're clearly thin at the position, and they're doing the best to put us in a position to win.
Yes, he is. Remember that he was responsible for half of Michigan State's points last year, too.
That's a lot of responsibility, kudos to him
then there is no reason to bury him. No he hasn't played well, and I'm not going to go over the mitigating issues again. More importantly, I'm not hanging anything that happened in 2008, with THAT defense, on Cissoko's head. It's pretty obvious looking back there was a serious issue throughout that unit that affected everyone's skills, development and performance, especially that of a true freshman.
For now, let's all lay off the kid, let him recover, and then support him.
And again, I want to remind everyone here that Stevie Brown is waiting for an apology for all the grief he took the past two years despite playing out of position at the coaches' direction. It is obvious, in the position he is in, that he can be, and is, a fine football player.
Didn't Cissoko play most of his time in the nickel position last year? I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of him just because of MSU's current passing attack. Plus with Stevie Brown playing the hybrid that might give us the speed we're going to need to slow them down.
That said, we haven't gone to a lot of nickel looks this year, as per the UFRs.
lots of time to improve.
Agreed on all points
I appreciate your point and agree that we should err on the side of cutting kids slack, especially when they're doing all that they can to improve and help the team win. I really do understand what you're getting at.
That being said...I mean...what if said player actually, kind of is...well...death? We all know he's trying hard. We all appreciate the fact that he's giving up a lot of time and dedicating himself to improving and helping the team win. But, man, he's still kinda...DEATH.
nick sheridan = death
we all love nick and he wears a headset and holds a clipboard as well as anyone. on the field however he's a party foul.
The Death tag bounces of Nick and sticks on Coner
It doesn't rhyme, so sue me.
The honorable mention high school all-conference walk on beats out the three-star, scholarship player.
When you shrieked to the heavens "Why is he on the field?", the answer was because the alternative was worse.
why would you bury anyone on the team? I can understand being disappointed with someones performance, or wondering why the team can't perform better, but these are 20 year old kids working their asses off for the team. If there was some indication that he wasn't working hard enough, then I could understand it. But I don't understand all the anger against him. He's trying his best and he can't cut it, I don't think we cant hold it against him.
(This isn't at you jg, just seemed a decent place to put it). I've just always been miffed when UM fans boo or jeer their own players, for lack of talent. I'm sure I'm a bit defensive about it, but I don't understand it at all.
Michigan players. I love Michigan football and I support the players, so even when a guy like Ezeh frustrates me by his sometimes slow reactions, I just wait for him to make a good play and applaud that.
And personally, I think they're doing fine given their time with Robinson and the mess in 2008. The team is steadily improving in their defensive looks. I've watched a lot of teams this year, and outside of Florida, Alabama, USC and Ohio State, I haven't seen many teams that cannot be exploited defensively. It's just the way of college football.
Further, given what we know now about the amount of time (wink) they put in to get better and to get their education, and the demands put on them by Rodriguez and Barwis, I'm with you - I'm even less apt to criticize the team because it's not an issue of either preparation or effort - it's maybe talent, and probably coaching and experience. Talent is what it is. For coaching and experience, we just need to be patient.
16 or 17 of the current players in the two deep will still be at Michigan in 2011, just think about that. Plus, you can add Turner, Emilien, Avery, the Talbotts, Gordon, Big Will Campbell, Marvin Robinson, Wilkins, Paskorz, LaLota, and other 2010 recruits to that depth. Things will be very good here in the future.
In sum, all I'm just saying is wait until a guy has played 2-3 full years in his slot, not 2 1/2 games, before jumping to conclusions. Further, 2008 was a huge complication. And, given what we know now about Warren, why the rush to condemn Cissoko when rumors of injury abound?
So, that's a long winded way of saying I agree with you. Forza Azul.
Well said, I agree with you every step of the way. Interesting you mentioned Ezeh, because I feel the same way. I scream at the tv when he doesn't hit his gap or bites a fake, but I have a ton of respect for him, because he never seems to give up. I'm sure he's as frustrated as we are, he knows he's not playing up to his potential, but he's out there working hard til the end of the game.
While we're talking about the defense, I just want to say I love watching Donovan Warren play. He just looks like he wants to win more than anything.
God I love this team.
I was fond of calling him "Big Play" Stevie Brown, and not just because of the deep balls he gave up. Dude could make plays, turns out he should have been at LB since birth.
That is an odd thing to say. I would hope Boo Boo improves.. and say what you want about Floyd, but he usually is in decent position on passes and is an excellent tackler. Kid is going to be a good player, IMO...regardless of if he is not super fast. Maybe it will be as a strong safety, but Floyd can play football.
That Boubacar's injury is the reason he hasn't played very well, not that he hopes the injury keeps him off the field.
Are you talking about booboo? Boobi makes me think of Gibson the guard for the Cavs. I just hope whoever starts is able to stop the deep ball and at least make the hitch a tough completion. I expect to see booboo in the game quite a bit though. I'm not giving up on the kid.
This was a reply to Matt D.
Boobi makes you think about the Cavs? That's certainly not what I think about.
Well played. An upbang for you is in order. It makes me think of Boobie Gibson but also other things.
seemed to have a lot of upside last year and he has physical tools and obvious confidence (maybe too much)which is so important at DB. I don't get how he can be so bad, I just don't.
Does anyone know the specifics on what is holding back Justin Turner? I know, I know, he's a freshman. But what do the coaches see that says he's not ready. Not questioning anyone's judgement.Just curious.
The coaches continually say that he's behind. The inference is that its the result of him arriving at fall practice late because of his academic issue, although I guess it could be any number of reasons.
Personally, if he's still not ready by week 5, I'd think twice before burning the red shirt (crap, did we already burn it on special teams?).
No, I don't think we'd see him in there on special teams. I guess I could have missed him but I haven't noticed. I also haven't looked every time either. I doubt they have though.
Can you give a summary of what he said about Tate? "Tate's sore and will play a few snaps", or "Tate's sore now but will be 100% by Saturday," or something inbetween? Any indication?
Regarding Tate, this is directly from the linked article:
Rodriguez also reiterated that quarterback Tate Forcier will play against the Spartans despite a sore shoulder.
Forcier was limited in practice earlier this week, but returned without limitation on Wednesday....
"I don't know if he's 100 percent without soreness," Rodriguez said. "But there's no limitations and there's no damages there. He's good."
Thanks. Sorry, I am on a mobile device and probably should have just clicked the link.
Sounds to me like Tate is fine, assuming RichRod isn't trying to mislead anyone (any why would we have the injury report in the first place if RichRod finds it valuable to mislead other teams?)
between class today. He was wearing a hoodie and had both of his hands in the pocket/pouch. I'm worried he might have Raynaud phenomenon (thanks Web MD).
If spelled like so - "Boobie" - makes me think of Boobie Miles from Friday Night Lights, which is an extremely awesome movie.
Better book, on account of being factual.
The movie writers changed quite a bit from the original manuscript.
that BooBoo had a good week of practice. He needs to keep what confidence he can b/c he CAN be a great CB. He just needs to focus.
"He just needs to focus."
My guess is that it is just not that simple.
I don't doubt you, but can you explain further?
Yes, "further" is used to indicate distance or extent in cases in which the distance is not known or when distance is spoken of in an abstract sense. It is often contrasted and confused with "farther".
Sorry - the wine has put me in a joking mood. Anyway, I think his technique is lacking (I am sure someone more knowledgeable - like Magnus - could break down his technical issues further), and perhaps his stature is hindering him, which I think are affecting his mental state, i.e., his focus.
Again, I don't disagree with you, but more often than not mental state will affect physical performance. If you head is not right, then you can't perform. I am sure you have heard people say that attitude is everything. I respect your opinion, but I think he has all the tools. He just needs to focus his mental energy into having success instead of not failing. He will work out just fine. I hope he keeps that chip on his shoulder though.
Very good point - it can go the other direction also. So much for a simple explanation. Here's to hoping he improves, whatever the problem is.
PLUG IN THE BEST 22 PLAYERS AND LET THEM SMACK THE OTHER GUYS AROUND THE FIELD, I DON'T CARE IF THE KID HAS BEEN ON CAMPUS 2 MONTHS OR 2 YEARS, THE BEST PLAYERS GETS THE SNAPS THAT COUNT
An interesting perspective. Does anyone have the coaches' information so that I may relay this tantalizing tidbit?
FUCK. SHIT. UP.
Maybe Cissoko is having off the field troubles. Academic or otherwise. When people say "focus" that starts sounding like personal issues.
make those assumptions and baseless accusations.
Get off your high and mighty horse buddy. People are allowed to have opinions still.. I think.
Boubacar is 5'9". I don't know why anyone expects him to be able to cover anybody. Give these kids some time--the defense isn't as bad as the numbers suggest.
it's the fact that he gets burnt to much. It's not like he's all over the receiver and the receiver just out jumps him for the ball. The wr a lot of the time is wide open.
Some players just don't figure it out until later in their careers... at least that's what I'm hoping.
King Beaver of Scout has said repeatedly that Cissoko's shoulder injury has been so bad he couldn't lift his arm above his head.
Anyone ever hurt a shoulder that bad? Hard to run, turn, and tackling 200 lbs receivers has got to be a beeyatch.
I'm with jg--don't bury players. I know everything is THEIR fault now in the New Michigan--but really, enough is enough with you assholes who think you know what it takes to be a college football player.
I too think the shoulder injury is causing him to compensate in some way, either by playing off the line a bit more, or playing the receiver differently down the field.
I rewatched the UM vs. ND game via the torrent feed twice now with my son and nephews. Yes, Cissoko had a bad game. He was playing against two great WR and a good QB.
But did you see how much show boating this kid was doing? I don't mind if you're cocky and trash talking and gesturing wildly about how awesome you are after some great plays, but only if you can back it up. When Warren does something, it's legit. Cissoko made a fool out of himself and it drove me crazy. I assume he was doing this to either sic him up, or more likely b/c it was a national game and he was trying to look better than reality to those viewing.
To see him strutting after plays which he was horrible and should have resulted in a TD -- except for the dropped pass -- was beyond annoying and far, far too self-focused.
Cissoko has been overrated since high school. Shoulder injury or not, that shouldn't affect his ability to stay with receivers. It might affect his ability to tackle them (see the Notre Dame game), but it shouldn't prevent him from getting torched deep by whichever Indiana receiver beat him. He also allowed an easy TD to Golden Tate on that little hitch route.
And like others have said, he's like Roy Williams, who, even after a mediocre 4-yard reception for a first down, gets up and celebrates by pointing for a first down.
Floyd isn't good, but he might not be much worse than Cissoko at this point.
(By the way, I said Floyd played like shit last week and people like tomhagan said stuff like "watch the tape" and "the UFR will prove you wrong." I rest my case.)
more than likely you haven't rested your case and are intent or arguing a subjective point ad nauseum
Does anyone know if the weekly radio show is available online?
Dude . . . you joined on 08/08/08. That's awesome.