Saw this on Twitter. I'm a bit disappointed myself, but we need a win.
Peppers at 10, which seems low.
Wow, meant to say Times-Union. I am an idiot. Apologies
That 8-4 record seems scary (given our abilities and their impressive schedule), but Miss State ranks 91st in passing yards and 16th in rushing yards -- this means they are unlikely to torch our secondary.
Not everybody. Just most people.
Their rush defense, FWIW, is 20th and pass efficiency defense is 50th.
Here is their NCAA stats page.
Their QB, Chris Reif, is a legitimate dual threat: he ran for 683 yards and threw for 1508.
Well look at Zach Frazer's #s this year and that game
Frazer went 18/37 for 205 and a ton of drops
The 205 yards for him are by far the most he's thrown for in a game this season.
But I get what you are saying.
Comrade CF. Since I am not well briefed on Mississippi State Football, I would like to ask if you have any intel on their offensive line. I am curious that if they have a good run game, if they have meat mashers and three headed trick ponies like Wiscy. I don't want to see that again. Civilians on our side of the iron cutain rejoice because of the lack of passing Miss St. fields, but Wiscy only had to pass on us once in the 2nd half of our contest with them. Is Mississippi St. comparable to Wiscy at all or is this just a red scare?
I think we get more credibility if we beat them because we already beat Florida and if we played the Vols they would say we won because they have a first year HC. PLus I think MSU has played good against some of the SEC elite. It is nice to play someone we haven't played before. Or atleast in my lifetime. This should be a good game to watch and atleast we get a New Years Day bowl instead of a 10:00pm Tuesday night bowl.
New opponent. I like games like this.
Let's extend our 20-5 record agains the SEC! (tOSU is 7-11)
The Times-Union has learned from sources within the selection committee that the Gator Bowl will invite Michigan (7-5) from the Big Ten against Mississippi State (8-4) from the Southeastern Conference for the 66th Gator Bowl on Jan. 1 at EverBank Field
to a win. Clearly, the game should have ended when Wangler got hurt with Mich up 9-0. After a 200 yd passing performance by the Winger in the first quarter.
Didn't Lawrence Taylor twist Wangler's leg after a sack -- something of a precursor to LT's infamous Theisman play?
Guess we'll see in a few hours here. This seemed all but locked up for UM/UT.
MS State is a team I don't think I want to play. They have a good defense and an underrated offense. Chris Relf doesn't look like much but he gets it done.
which means another chance for UM to beat a good team. This is an opportunity for Rich to state his case. The team will be rested and healthy.
Or Dan Mullen to state his case.
Let's not go there today.
If Miami doesn't have a coach by New Years, they're in trouble.
Seriously, Miami can't afford him or his staff. They want to be a national champion on the cheap, and the secret about South Florida having a lot of really great athletes is out (see: Robinson, Denard).
When was it a secret that South Florida has great athletes?
Ask Howard Schnellenberger. A lot of folks weren't recruiting too heavily there in the early 80s. He basically won a national title with Jim Kelly (PA) and 21 South Florida kids--many of whom were passed on by the more traditional powers.
Okay so basically 30 years ago...? Did you never notice how many guys from South Florida go on to play D1 football?
The best Miami coaches have been able to leverage under recruited guys from South Florida to build teams and then use that success to keep the best guys home. Expanded national recruiting by the big-time powers all the way down to schools like Central Michigan has made that harder and harder.
Yeah, I noticed a lot of Florida guys play D-1 ball. They have the highest number of FCS players per capita in the country.
I wouldnt consider Larry Coker to be one of the best Miami coaches and i wouldnt consider many of the guys on his 2001 team to be under-recruited players. That team was chalk full of South Florida guys, They had 17 players on that team selected in the first round of the NFL draft
Bryant McKinnie was a nobody recruit from JC, Santana Moss was a walk-on, and I think Ken Dorsey was a pretty meh recruit too. I can't find the article, but IIRC, 8-9 of the Canes stars on the 99-01 teams were relatively under-the-radar guys that Davis managed to find.
Willis Mcgahee, Clinton Portis, Frank Gore, Ed Reed, Andre Johnson, Jeremy Shockey, Sean Taylor, John Vilma, Kellen Winslow....idk if they were all from South Fla but they were stacked.
Well, he is on their short list so there must be some interest. Doubtful Mullen leaves MSU early so you never know - it could drag out until the New Year if he gives them his word prior.
If you're going to leave to coach a new team, you're going to do what Rodriguez did if you can--leave early and work on recruiting. It's a business, and the coaches are paid to succeed at their current school, not for what they did at the previous school. That just gets you in the door.
keep AC secret all that time. Fort Schembechler indeed!
Would have preferred Tennessee, but OK. Beat them instead.
Well, I'm glad Mississippi State couldn't afford Cam Newton.
Needed that laugh! Thanks!
Based on the bowl the team that COULD afforsd him is playing in I'm guessing MSU wishes they had placed another bid too....
Their offense is another story, based on the games I saw them this year. Relf has a really strong arm but he is inconsistent.
Personally, I don't mind the matchup, although I would prefer UT. On the plus side, New Year's Day bowl bitches!
Well, I was hoping for UT so we could wear our home unis, but I'll take the Gator Bowl under any circumstances over the Insight Bowl vs. Nebraska.
Miss State isn't a gimme by any means. They haven't beaten anyone good, but they took Auburn to the wire (17-14) and Arkansas to overtime. The really nice thing about them is that their pass offense sucks, which makes Michigan competitive.
That said, they played in the toughest division in college football this season and won eight games. Sorry to the homers, but LSU, Alabama, Auburn, and Arkansas is a murderer's row this year.
They are going to run run run and run some more. Our LBs will need to be flying all over the field
Yeah, but it's better than watching our DBs run all over the field. The DBs inspire Hindenburg thoughts...
Sagarin's calculations put it at 6 points on a neutral field. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt10.htm
But I expect us to be a more explosive team with Denard given more than a month to heal.
Miss St. is tough, but I like out chances against another spread team.
Dan Mullen vs Rich Rodriguez.... this will be interesting
is the good news here. No late night game in AZ and no prematch with Nebraska. Time to start a new consecutive bowl streak.
It's actually fine, I just felt like typing that for once...
And LOL @ Val's comment at the bottom of the article...
I'm pretty sure Lloyd Brady had a say in this.
I like this more than Tennessee.
Not sure how I feel about this. I'm hoping that this will play out like the last time we lost our last two games preceding a bowl game against Dan Mullen.
Would have much preferred Tennessee. Makes sense why they'd pick MSU tho. Should be some great offense in this game. Love the Cam Newton joke a few posts up btw.
I assume we haven't ever played them, anyone know?
Michigan has never played Mississippi State.
a very young and inspiring offensive minded coach and a very poor national following. Of all SEC teams we could conceivably face (UF, UT) this is the worst match up for both on and off field reasons IMO.
We can unload on them, much like we did to Ol'Miss years and years ago...
I guess DB was right, we are going a different direction. Instead of Arizona it is Florida. And some thought he was talking coaching change.
I like this matchup for Michigan - particularly from the Defense side for the Wolves. MSU's offense is fairly vanilla - they don't have a scary passing attack and I think with 15 practices along with the time to heal the wounded warriors - this could be an opportunity to really put together a very nice game. Against Florida - MSU had 33 yards passing for the game and several others that they didn't hit 150 so stopping their run game is huge.
Michigan is called the Wolverines. That is an entirely different species than a wolf.
While I'm glad we are getting the opportunity to play in a bowl on New Year's Day, I can't help but feel a little disappointed.
A team like Tennessee would have been a great match-up because of the storylines: our attempt to avenge our loss to them in 2002, two proud programs looking to rebound, storied powers going at it.
Defeating Mississippi State will be arguably more difficult and will bring with it much less glory. What did we expect, though? Coach Rod rarely catches a break.
That being said, I'm not belly-aching. I can't wait to watch the game. Above all else, it's a chance to humble the incestuous hive that is the SEC.
Defeating Mississippi State will be arguably more difficult and will bring with it much less glory.
I totally disagree. Miss State is a much better team and thus will bring more glory. Read Tennessee's resume, they really aren't a good football team. Their best win is over a 6-6 Kentucky team. The only better thing about facing the Vols would be a much better shot at winning--which is what Michigan really needs most of all.
then we should have a better chance than against the last 2 teams we played. I'm glad we are playing period.
How do you like those apples! Go Blue!
I'd like to also register my satisfaction at going to a bowl that's kept its traditional name so I don't have to be a stodgy old bastard and call it "the former Copper Bowl" for three weeks. Because I totally would have.
This stodgy old bastard cosigns. It's Division 1AA, not FCS.
I like the matchup but it will be interesting with the announcers comparing the two coaches. Dan Mullen got that team turned around in a hurry.
From an ease-of-competition standpoint I would have preferred Tennessee, but it ought to be an interesting game regardless.