Interesting if there is truth to it.
this may be of some local interest
Interesting if there is truth to it.
No not magee.......Take gerg....BUT NOT MAGEE
It's just a message board rumor. But don't forget that Meyer and Rodriguez are friends; they share offensive ideas all the time. Meyer learned the spread option from RR. They could just be catching up while Magee is down there recruiting.
Florida is a potential bowl opponent. If this actually happened, the timing suggests that it's probably more than just catching up.
rumor mill and Florida will make it rain on an OC or DC, I would have to say this is concerning. Boyz FTW
Don't be naive, man
Just trying to be optimistic. Forgive me!
Speculation about how this TOTALLY, ABSOLUTELY signifies Coach Rod's departure commences in...
You heard it here first.
I don't know if it means his departure is imminent, but it certainly shows that RR and co. are just as in-the-dark as we all are about what's going to happen.
Umm...unless he was to say become head coach, why would he leave one big school for another of similar prestige for the exact same position? I guess he could be paid more... but I doubt it. And unless he has had a falling out with RR, then I don't see this happening
edit: ah, I get it, as a safety in case RR is fired (which isn't happening, sorry!)
See: Greg Mattison
he got a huge pay jump at ND; private school.
We got an opportunity to spend some time with the Mattisons at the UM alumni family camp a shortly before he bolted for Notre Dame, and all they talked about was how much they loved Michigan, how he wanted to coach there for life, how it was so great and being DC in Ann Arbor was the perfect situation...
And a year or two later (might have even been the following winter, I can't remember if it was 1995 or 1996) he bolts in the gap before the bowl game for the exact same job at Notre Dame.
Total cash grab. Can't blame him all that much, but still a bit of a puzzler at the time based on how naturally gushy the family was about how much they loved UM. It wasn't an act.
They offered to put all his kids through college for free too.
Lloyd wasn't amused.
(Lloyd scowl) Well, no question, Jim. That was disappointing for our football team.
More along the lines of "dead to me". Probably up there (though these had better reasons) with Les, Cam, and the special teams coordinator after the Iowa game. Maybe Harbaugh too. We'll see.
Florida was absolute dogmeat before Spurrier got there. Michigan's prestige is uncomparable.
Do you mean when Spurrier coached there, or when he won a Heisman as a Gator?
Head Coach. They had a couple good seasons every now and then but they were more like MSU than Michigan in the SEC pre 1990.
of good seasons were usually the result of cheating their a##es off.
I'm not sure this has been true in the successful (ie, Spurrier and Meyer) eras. Way back they were notorious cheaters in the Charley Pell era. I certainly wonder about Zook. However, in their MNC years led by one arrogant genius, Spurrier (who I like by the way) and then another, Meyer (who I most definitely do not like), I have heard very little about cheating. The truth is, with their recruiting base, they shouldn't have to cheat to get top talent.
Even with his Heisman and bowl winning campaign, Florida never won a conference championship till he was their coach.
Florida was absolute dogmeat before Spurrier got there.
True, but that was 20 years and three national titles ago. To a recruit, UF has been good throughout his lifetime.
It's not a huge deal if it happens. RR is basically the OC, anyway.
prestige plays little in recruiting. A recruit almost aways choses UF over us.
and it hates us all.
The Gator Bowl a lot more interesting.
He interviewed for Florida schools head coaching jobs before. Maybe he figures it's be easier in-state, or in a program where the head guy isn't really the OC (I mean, does Magee get any credit over Rich Rod?). Or it's all the other rumors, which are even getting me weary.
worships the ground coaches walk on. And the President--who not-so-secretly hates Michigan--is always asking can he do anything else for you.
The UF president hates Michigan? Why?
Damn it. I really don't know what to think anymore...
He might just have been in Florida for recruiting.
Replace him with a special teams coach or another defensive coach. RR and Rod Smith can call the plays just as well.
I agree that the offense would still be pretty good, but we don't need another defensive coach. We just need a DC who's allowed to run his own defense, and position coaches who are on the same page as the DC.
that that is ultimately what needs to happen. So yeah, I don't think simply adding a defensive coach to this group is the answer. My thinking is more along the lines of, if RR is staying, he's basically got a year to turn the defense around. So it's kind of an all hands on deck situation and you'll need all the hands you can get over there.
In the alterntative hire a ST guy for a year. I know you did that analysis that basically says few schools have them. But again, I'm looking for the quick fix, which might just be hiring a guy dedicated to that.
Probably overly shortsighted, but it a staff opening is definitely an opportunity to address some deficiencies.
Maybe the team doesn't need another defensive coach. I'd agree with you on that.
However, this team needs a special teams coach, badly. Of note: Stanford has a dedicated special teams coach. It's Bill Polian's kid (coincidence with Harbaugh, I'm sure). He worked at Notre Dame and did quite well, and has significantly improved Stanford's special teams in his first year there.
Seeing as how special teams directly led to the holes in three games (Iowa, Penn State, and Ohio State) that the Michigan offense couldn't dig out of, I think the team needs a special teams coach. It's 1/3 of the game, and the team needs a dedicated and consistent focus on it.
That's a good idea. As long as RR is the coach, we really don't need a separate offensive coordinator. Use the extra coaching spot for something we clearly do need - a dedicated special teams guy.
If RR hires a new DC, leaves him alone and gets someone to fix special teams . . . he may yet have a chance to turn it around.
If RR wants to the run the 3-3-5 he has to get Casteel, if he can't get Casteel, RR let the DC, whom ever it may be run his system and pick his personell. Otherwise we won't really see much improvement.
RR calls most of the plays anyways. Magee might want to go somewhere that he can have more input.
More credit, at least.
I am all for RR, I want it to work just as much as any Blue Blooded Michigan Fan. But really, Top 5 offense. Denard Robinson. Unlimited resources. 9 starters on offense returning. Michigan wont be outbid if it were about money. Michigan wouldnt let an top 5 statistical OC out the door to interview. Were not there yet but were days away of getting OJ type evidence that something is going down. In close, I Love My School No Matter Who Is Coach, Period!
Michigan Athletics has been notoriously cheap, especially regarding personnel. The "honor of working for" and all that. Though I think it's shifting and moving more into "you get what you pay for". (Martin was notoriously cheap, going around buildings and shutting off lights and telling staff to use the stairs instead of the elevator. He probably would have had a stroke seeing the Stadium lights on).
Florida and most of the SEC pay their assistant coaches a LOT more than Michigan and the rest of the Big Ten.
Well, it would suck, but I think we would survive it. Probably promote Rod Smith or something. What I won't look forward to is the shit storm about this meaning RR is getting canned.
i sure am praying that Calvin stays on the staff! And if this does happen it will just add more fuel to my "Hate for Meyer/Florida" fire!!
all I see on that board are .gifs of Gators spearing dudes with their helmets
this is getting uglier by the day. I can't believe this is true. I am actually getting worried now that things are going in this direction.
Why are you all so worried about Magee leaving? We really need another defensive coach or a special teams coach. Right now there are essentially 3 Qb coaches with Rodriguez, Smith, and Magee. Like another poster said, Smith can just move up to OC.
No, we don't need another defensive coach. That is dumb. Essentially every team has the same number of offensive and defensive coaches that we do.
And Magee isn't a QB coach. He was a TE in the NFL and coaches the tight ends. Don't be ridamndiculous.
Has anyone heard the rumor about Butch Jones eating at Zingerman's...no...because i just made that up. However a rumor that is probably true.... Drew Sharp and Mike rosenberg were seen on camera at the Detroit Zoo Clubbing baby seals. And they were regular attendees at Michael Vick's dog fights. I even think i saw them on an episode of Whale Wars trying to sodomize baby dolphins.
I'd be rooting for the dolphins to do the sodomizing in that case.
i think about this...i think this is a classic case of RR letting Calvin look around for gigs in the slim event he loses his job. wishful thinking i know!
Didn't Calvin McGee interview for a HC position at South Florida last year? He is a viable candidate to move up, and the season just ended, so this is nothing unusual.
Wheres the flight tracker??
I heard Vince Lombardi was on his way to fix our defense.
I'm with you. Flight tracker or it didn't happen.
Way cool avatar.
but why would Calvin want to make a lateral move? the only reason i can think of is he isnt the one running this offense, RR is.
Is he under contract? If so we are under zero obligation to let him go. If not we have zero right to complain that he's interviewing.
It lends to the theory that RR may have been told he would be released after the bye out dropped to 2.5M in early Jan. Sad to see him leave but that's life as a coach at a major football university. Time is money, and when you collect the big bucks you better produce fast. I disagree but DB has probably projected into the future and has decided that RR is not the coach. A defense that got worse and no special teams. RR may have been banking on Casteel but he should have had a much better plan B!
Man, it sure looks like this theory that nobody credible has reported might be true because of an event that can be interpreted 30 different ways.
in other words, this is just like an episode of Lost?
GERG is Paulo, right?
Does that make DB, Jacob, and RR ,Jack, and Harbaugh, Hurley?
Jacob-DB, the all-mighty one and the ultimate good guy
Jack- Harbough, the "leader" and the classic "all american guy"
Sawyer- RR, the souther twang fits and he is "rogue" but tries to do good things
Kate-The Michigan Fanbase, we tend to love one more at different times
The Man in Black- Tressel
That makes Rita Juliet, right?
He's already made it through more than one season.
it seems this is true. and if coach rod leaves i see denard leaving as well. i hope this is just calvin looking to make a move to enhance his career.
that RR will move to offensive coordinator and Harbaugh will be the new head coach.
I know you're joking, but that would have the potential to be awesome. Bring in a Michigan guy to make everyone happy, let Rodriguez coach the offense because the offense is awesome, and hopefully Harbaugh could bring in a DC to make good things happen on that side of the ball.
I vote for you as the new AD whenever David Brandon moves on.
Would Rodriguez move to OC? Could we bring in a quality DC? Would Harbaugh come back as HC in this case? And would the disgruntled fanbase shut up if Harbaugh came back? Interesting questions.
Would Rodriguez move to OC?
Could we bring in a quality DC?
Would Harbaugh come back as HC in this case?
NOT ENOUGH DATA SO I MAKE BIG
And would the disgruntled fanbase shut up if Harbaugh came back?
Some would, others would not. I'd be one of the disgruntled if he came back.
No. Way. No way that Rodriguez would take a slap in the face like that and accept such a major demotion. He'd be left no choice but to walk or be canned. Also no way that Harbaugh and Rodriguez could (either one) co-exist peacefully, both would want control. I've had the same crazy thought but I always stamp it out before I get excited about the wickedly awesome possibilities.
Didn't Nebraska keep Callahan's hand-chosen OC after he got canned because their offense was good but their defense was atrocious? I could (possibly) see that happening here.
would the be the NCAA football coaching version of the "dream team".
I mean, they hate him down here, but I have not heard anything to that effect.
No, Addazio has not gotten fired yet, until he does I wont worry about it and neither should anyone else
this would be a way of doing that.
Addazio sucks, so I could definitely see this happening. Florida's offense was full of DERP this year
I figured Calin McGee was not long for MIchigan, but I'd be surprised if he ends up as an OC at another major university. We can either match any offer they make or at least come close. I'm surprised he's not being mentioned for more head coaching jobs like the Minnesota job.
I'm not surprised. The spread is dead.
I hear Miami's looking for a coach.
everyone in WV claims McGee is coming back to save the 'eers too since Gomer Pyle is apparently on his way out by "his own terms".....