Interesting if there is truth to it.
I did not make this headline up
Interesting if there is truth to it.
No not magee.......Take gerg....BUT NOT MAGEE
It's just a message board rumor. But don't forget that Meyer and Rodriguez are friends; they share offensive ideas all the time. Meyer learned the spread option from RR. They could just be catching up while Magee is down there recruiting.
Florida is a potential bowl opponent. If this actually happened, the timing suggests that it's probably more than just catching up.
rumor mill and Florida will make it rain on an OC or DC, I would have to say this is concerning. Boyz FTW
Don't be naive, man
Just trying to be optimistic. Forgive me!
Speculation about how this TOTALLY, ABSOLUTELY signifies Coach Rod's departure commences in...
You heard it here first.
I don't know if it means his departure is imminent, but it certainly shows that RR and co. are just as in-the-dark as we all are about what's going to happen.
Umm...unless he was to say become head coach, why would he leave one big school for another of similar prestige for the exact same position? I guess he could be paid more... but I doubt it. And unless he has had a falling out with RR, then I don't see this happening
edit: ah, I get it, as a safety in case RR is fired (which isn't happening, sorry!)
See: Greg Mattison
he got a huge pay jump at ND; private school.
We got an opportunity to spend some time with the Mattisons at the UM alumni family camp a shortly before he bolted for Notre Dame, and all they talked about was how much they loved Michigan, how he wanted to coach there for life, how it was so great and being DC in Ann Arbor was the perfect situation...
And a year or two later (might have even been the following winter, I can't remember if it was 1995 or 1996) he bolts in the gap before the bowl game for the exact same job at Notre Dame.
Total cash grab. Can't blame him all that much, but still a bit of a puzzler at the time based on how naturally gushy the family was about how much they loved UM. It wasn't an act.
They offered to put all his kids through college for free too.
Lloyd wasn't amused.
(Lloyd scowl) Well, no question, Jim. That was disappointing for our football team.
More along the lines of "dead to me". Probably up there (though these had better reasons) with Les, Cam, and the special teams coordinator after the Iowa game. Maybe Harbaugh too. We'll see.
Florida was absolute dogmeat before Spurrier got there. Michigan's prestige is uncomparable.
Do you mean when Spurrier coached there, or when he won a Heisman as a Gator?
Head Coach. They had a couple good seasons every now and then but they were more like MSU than Michigan in the SEC pre 1990.
of good seasons were usually the result of cheating their a##es off.
I'm not sure this has been true in the successful (ie, Spurrier and Meyer) eras. Way back they were notorious cheaters in the Charley Pell era. I certainly wonder about Zook. However, in their MNC years led by one arrogant genius, Spurrier (who I like by the way) and then another, Meyer (who I most definitely do not like), I have heard very little about cheating. The truth is, with their recruiting base, they shouldn't have to cheat to get top talent.
Even with his Heisman and bowl winning campaign, Florida never won a conference championship till he was their coach.
Florida was absolute dogmeat before Spurrier got there.
True, but that was 20 years and three national titles ago. To a recruit, UF has been good throughout his lifetime.
It's not a huge deal if it happens. RR is basically the OC, anyway.
prestige plays little in recruiting. A recruit almost aways choses UF over us.
and it hates us all.
The Gator Bowl a lot more interesting.
He interviewed for Florida schools head coaching jobs before. Maybe he figures it's be easier in-state, or in a program where the head guy isn't really the OC (I mean, does Magee get any credit over Rich Rod?). Or it's all the other rumors, which are even getting me weary.
worships the ground coaches walk on. And the President--who not-so-secretly hates Michigan--is always asking can he do anything else for you.
The UF president hates Michigan? Why?
Damn it. I really don't know what to think anymore...
He might just have been in Florida for recruiting.
Replace him with a special teams coach or another defensive coach. RR and Rod Smith can call the plays just as well.
I agree that the offense would still be pretty good, but we don't need another defensive coach. We just need a DC who's allowed to run his own defense, and position coaches who are on the same page as the DC.
that that is ultimately what needs to happen. So yeah, I don't think simply adding a defensive coach to this group is the answer. My thinking is more along the lines of, if RR is staying, he's basically got a year to turn the defense around. So it's kind of an all hands on deck situation and you'll need all the hands you can get over there.
In the alterntative hire a ST guy for a year. I know you did that analysis that basically says few schools have them. But again, I'm looking for the quick fix, which might just be hiring a guy dedicated to that.
Probably overly shortsighted, but it a staff opening is definitely an opportunity to address some deficiencies.
Maybe the team doesn't need another defensive coach. I'd agree with you on that.
However, this team needs a special teams coach, badly. Of note: Stanford has a dedicated special teams coach. It's Bill Polian's kid (coincidence with Harbaugh, I'm sure). He worked at Notre Dame and did quite well, and has significantly improved Stanford's special teams in his first year there.
Seeing as how special teams directly led to the holes in three games (Iowa, Penn State, and Ohio State) that the Michigan offense couldn't dig out of, I think the team needs a special teams coach. It's 1/3 of the game, and the team needs a dedicated and consistent focus on it.
That's a good idea. As long as RR is the coach, we really don't need a separate offensive coordinator. Use the extra coaching spot for something we clearly do need - a dedicated special teams guy.
If RR hires a new DC, leaves him alone and gets someone to fix special teams . . . he may yet have a chance to turn it around.
If RR wants to the run the 3-3-5 he has to get Casteel, if he can't get Casteel, RR let the DC, whom ever it may be run his system and pick his personell. Otherwise we won't really see much improvement.
RR calls most of the plays anyways. Magee might want to go somewhere that he can have more input.
More credit, at least.
I am all for RR, I want it to work just as much as any Blue Blooded Michigan Fan. But really, Top 5 offense. Denard Robinson. Unlimited resources. 9 starters on offense returning. Michigan wont be outbid if it were about money. Michigan wouldnt let an top 5 statistical OC out the door to interview. Were not there yet but were days away of getting OJ type evidence that something is going down. In close, I Love My School No Matter Who Is Coach, Period!
Michigan Athletics has been notoriously cheap, especially regarding personnel. The "honor of working for" and all that. Though I think it's shifting and moving more into "you get what you pay for". (Martin was notoriously cheap, going around buildings and shutting off lights and telling staff to use the stairs instead of the elevator. He probably would have had a stroke seeing the Stadium lights on).
Florida and most of the SEC pay their assistant coaches a LOT more than Michigan and the rest of the Big Ten.
Well, it would suck, but I think we would survive it. Probably promote Rod Smith or something. What I won't look forward to is the shit storm about this meaning RR is getting canned.
i sure am praying that Calvin stays on the staff! And if this does happen it will just add more fuel to my "Hate for Meyer/Florida" fire!!
all I see on that board are .gifs of Gators spearing dudes with their helmets
this is getting uglier by the day. I can't believe this is true. I am actually getting worried now that things are going in this direction.
Why are you all so worried about Magee leaving? We really need another defensive coach or a special teams coach. Right now there are essentially 3 Qb coaches with Rodriguez, Smith, and Magee. Like another poster said, Smith can just move up to OC.
No, we don't need another defensive coach. That is dumb. Essentially every team has the same number of offensive and defensive coaches that we do.
And Magee isn't a QB coach. He was a TE in the NFL and coaches the tight ends. Don't be ridamndiculous.