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Florida player Matt Elam - A study in violence

I realize that the odds we have any dealings with Florida this year are pretty low, though I suppose the B1G will still end up with their usual Capitol One, Champions, etc bowl slate, so one never knows. Either way, I could not let this opportunity pass us by.

Presenting to you all: Matt Elam, a study in violence.

Now, before you condemn Elam for playing killshot football, you should be aware that Elam was not trying to play football at all. This is simply how he introduces himself to friends and new acquaintances.

No, seriously. If we do end up playing Florida, we need to petition the refs to allow the post-game handshake to be conducted y mail.

"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
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October 9th, 2012 at 1:13 AM | He plays like a dumbass. Can (Score:3 Normal)
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He plays like a dumbass. Can you imagine if his teammate separated a shoulder on that hit?

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October 9th, 2012 at 1:31 AM | With SEC grey shirting, I (Score:3 Normal)
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With SEC grey shirting, I think there would no problems finding a substitute.

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October 10th, 2012 at 1:15 AM | Actually (Score:1)
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Actually Florida doesn't do that. Or they didn't just recently anyway. Could have changed

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October 9th, 2012 at 10:25 AM | Not sure if serious?   Elam (Score:1)
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Not sure if serious?

 

Elam played like a terror all game. If we had a safety like that we'd be in much better shape.

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October 9th, 2012 at 1:16 AM | Eh (Score:5 Normal)
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I think he's just kind of a dipshit with waaaay too much energy who plays with zero fucks given. The thread title mildly implies the workings of a sociopath.

No excuses. Play like a champion.

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October 9th, 2012 at 1:23 AM | I agree. (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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The first hit looks dirty in a personal foul call, not really much discussion after kind of way. The celebration was just him being a dumbass, and I don't think injury was a very likely result.

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October 9th, 2012 at 1:59 AM | Could someone please explain (Score:5 Normal)
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Could someone please explain what is wrong with the first hit?

ALL ABOARD THE A-TRAIN!!!!!

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October 9th, 2012 at 2:02 AM | Nothing (Score:5 Normal)
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It looked like a solid, fundamental tackle to me.

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October 9th, 2012 at 2:08 AM | From the angle in the gif is (Score:2 Normal)
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From the angle in the gif is looks like he leads with the crown of his helmet. Then again, it's not the best view and I could be wrong.

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October 9th, 2012 at 2:19 AM | But he went low (Score:5 Normal)
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He wasn't going for the head. When you're a DB going against a running back, that's how you're supposed to tackle. 

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October 9th, 2012 at 2:23 AM | I thought that it was a big deal because he threw his helmet (Score:2 Normal)
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right into the LSU guy's crotch. Probably not too pleasant of a sensation.

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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October 9th, 2012 at 2:39 AM | If he did lead with the crown (Score:0 Overrated)
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If he did lead with the crown of his helmet, shouldn't it be a personal foul for targeting (NCAA rule 9-1 3a)? My football rules knowledge is definitely behind a lot of other people on the board, but this seems fairly black and white.

ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul.

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October 9th, 2012 at 3:13 AM | Yes (Score:5 Normal)
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But that is something that will never be called unless it's a hit to the head. Players are encouraged to put their helmet on the ball to force fumbles, and a ref would take too much heat for calling it.

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October 9th, 2012 at 3:26 AM | FWIW... (Score:1 Normal)
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Section B of that rule deals with helmet to helmet and defenseless player hits.

I'd also just say that a play can be dirty or a bad choice even if a referee doesn't call it or refuses to call it. I doubt this hit was the worst thing that happened even in this one quarter, but it does look illegal, at least the way I'm reading the rule.

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October 9th, 2012 at 9:02 AM | He didn't lead with the (Score:2)
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He didn't lead with the crown.  If you look closely, he's getting his helmet in front of the player he's trying to tackle.  The top of his helmet never hits the other guy, at least like everyone here is talking about.  This is a perfect example of putting your earhole on  the far side of who your tackling.  Nothing illegal about from my point of view, matter of fact, if he had wrapped up, it would be a pretty perfect tackle.

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October 9th, 2012 at 10:08 AM | Facemask up (Score:2 Normal)
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I was always taught from the very beginning that you should be looking at what you are tackling... "facemask up".  First, you need to see what you are tackling, and; second, putting your head down and looking at the ground is a good way to injure your neck.  I don't know if it was so much an illegal hit on the ball carrier as it was a good way to get hurt because he appears to be looking at the ground when he makes the hit. 

This is why I love watching Kocacs so much and why I have my kids watch him.  He is fundamentally sound, and when he makes a tackle his hips are under his shoulders and his facemask is typically buried into the ballcarrier. 

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October 9th, 2012 at 10:31 AM | Yeah, I'd like to see a (Score:2)
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Yeah, I'd like to see a slower gif of this, because I just can't tell exactly what's he's doing there.   I swear it looks like he has his facemask up and is putting his earhole right on the the other players thigh pad, making it a beautiful hit.  If it is in fact pointing down, then you're absolutely right, and it would turn this into a still clean, yet very stupid/risky play.

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October 9th, 2012 at 2:37 AM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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October 9th, 2012 at 4:17 AM | .... (Score:2)
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Pure comedy YAHTZEE.

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October 9th, 2012 at 4:42 AM | This is stupid. The first (Score:2 Normal)
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This is stupid. The first tackle is fine. The second tackle looks like a miss. Just flung his arms out there to make the tackle

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October 9th, 2012 at 4:48 AM | #15 (Score:5 Normal)
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That is not Elam.

"I recently heard from fans and friends that Michigan will be great again one day.   In my opinion, Michigan never stopped being great."  --Zac Ciullo

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October 9th, 2012 at 9:04 AM | Watch the celebration. (Score:2 Normal)
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Watch the celebration.

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October 9th, 2012 at 6:31 AM | Methinks... (Score:2)
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You're missing the point (and the intended humor)

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October 9th, 2012 at 7:11 AM | you are right (Score:1)
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I should watch the whole GIF next time. There it is-->      *intended humor*!

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October 9th, 2012 at 8:02 AM | In the second GIF, Elam's the (Score:1)
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In the second GIF, Elam's the one who comes flying in after the tackle and sends his showboating teammate sprawling.

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:09 AM | Oh. Oooooh. Kinda stupid , (Score:1)
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Oh. Oooooh.

Kinda stupid , looks like he hit his teammate as hard as he could.

 

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October 9th, 2012 at 7:00 AM | Those two gifs are all I've (Score:5 Normal)
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Those two gifs are all I've ever seen of the kid, but I think I'd love to have him on my team.

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October 9th, 2012 at 7:25 AM | I fail to see the issue here. (Score:3 Normal)
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I fail to see the issue here.

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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October 9th, 2012 at 9:54 AM | The issue is that Matt Elam (Score:3 Normal)
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The issue is that Matt Elam will probably kill someone on a football field at some point.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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October 9th, 2012 at 10:26 AM | The funny thing is that (Score:2 Funny)
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The funny thing is that someone who Elam kills, might be himself...  I would keep him away from concrete walls, he might try to hit it helmet first. 

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October 9th, 2012 at 2:58 PM | Did someone say that Elam (Score:1)
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Did someone say that Elam killed some hookers!???  Uh oh.  Here we go . . .

 

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October 9th, 2012 at 8:44 AM |   I went to the Swamp for the (Score:4 Normal)
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I went to the Swamp for the LSU game last weekend - it was my first foray out of the B1G (and ND). I had "a real good time". 

Observations on the teams - Florida played great D most of the game. The middle of the field was open for the first 2/3s of the first drive and if LSUs QB was better at the deep ball, there may have been something there as well. Also the right side of the O-line flat out dominated LSU in the second half. 

The Field - The N-S orientation coupled with the 3:30 start left LSU in the sun for most of the game, while UF was in the shade the whole game. By mid-way through the 3rd quarter, LSU looked beat. Conditioning or baking on the surface of the sun? I believe it was a huge advantage for the home team. Something to think of when we ask for a H&H versus the SEC in September. 

Everything else - The people were nice, the beer was cold and weather hot. It's a very nice campus as well with good "scenery". 

Brewer. Wolverine.

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October 9th, 2012 at 8:45 AM | Well this was fun (Score:1)
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Well this was fun

www.eatacheeseburger.blogspot.com Brian Cook has read this blog!

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October 9th, 2012 at 9:55 AM | The first hit looks pretty (Score:1 Redundant)
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The first hit looks pretty clean to me.  He drops his head, but I don't think it's intended to hurt the guy.  It's just unsafe tackling form (for himself).  Hitting a guy in the midsection with your head is more likely to hurt you than someone else.  Now if you're hitting someone in the chest or the head with your head lowered, then that becomes dangerous for both people.

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October 9th, 2012 at 10:21 AM | 1. the hit looks clean... 2. (Score:2)
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1. the hit looks clean...

2. if he was on our team, you'd all commend him for being a beast instead of saying he's too rough

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October 9th, 2012 at 9:32 PM | the second one (Score:0 Overrated)
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is helmet to helmet. after blowing it up, i even think it looks intentional. something weird going on there for sure.

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October 9th, 2012 at 11:31 PM | Matt Elam is a beast (Score:0)
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the people saying he's dumb or reckless probably got their first exposure to him in this post.

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