FLERBY DERBY DOO!

Submitted by Firstbase on
editor's note: title updated Okay. What do you think? If "major" violations are found to have occurred relative to practice time, is it enough to fire RichRod? Ostensibly that contractual option is open to U of M officials, should they decide to act on it. Regardless of the outcome, I can't help but think of the potential negative impact this could have on recruiting. The political posturing behind the scenes and uncertainty within the program are problematic at the very least right now.
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MichiganStudent

October 27th, 2009 at 11:58 PM ^

First off, I doubt RR gets fired if they find they went over 20 hours. Secondly, I do not think going over 20 hours is a major violation. At least I hope not. I'm not too sure on what the punishment would be, but I don't think it would be a loss of scholarships.

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uniqenam

October 27th, 2009 at 11:58 PM ^

Um, I'm pretty sure they didn't say they believe major violations have occurred, I think they stated something along the lines of they were aware of the possibility of violations having occurred, not that they assuredly happened. Get off the Free Press and use your God-given brain.

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michiganfanforlife

October 28th, 2009 at 12:04 AM ^

Is that you? Just kidding. I believe every NCAA Div 1 athelte signs a realease form every week that states every hour worked above 20 in a given week was voluntary. How could you get past the forms that these kids fill out? I thought this BS was over with.

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joeyb

October 28th, 2009 at 8:12 AM ^

Well, you interview every player that signed one and asked if they were forced to sign them. If numerous players say they were forced to sign them even though they knew that the information was not true, then there could be problems.

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Tater

October 28th, 2009 at 12:19 AM ^

It amazes me how one drop of blood causes a feeding frenzy in the media. I'm sure they will sensationalize it and milk it as long as they can for all they can get out of it. I wish Rosenpuke would have done this in Tennessee where the "hillbilly mafia" could teach him a lesson.

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tomhagan

October 28th, 2009 at 12:33 AM ^

I just read the comments from the NCAA person who says that the NCAA has "credible information" that a violation has occured and that they will finish their investigation by Dec. 31st "University president Mary Sue Coleman said Monday the NCAA has sent the school a letter of inquiry. NCAA spokeswoman Stacey Osburn says a letter means the NCAA's initial review has found credible information a violation may have occurred." http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/ncaa/10/27/michigan-ncaa… That comment from Stacey Osburn sounds ominous.....It certainly sounds like the Witch Hunt is at full force now. Personally, I despise Mike Rosenberg and his self-aggrandizing newspaper and the way he has been an asshole through this whole thing. However, if there is some major violation found... well Michigan has to look at what to do with this situation especially if the team does not finish well this season. It has just become a huge distraction towards going on...yes we all want to be positive...but something sucks when whatever happens, people just pile on the new Michigan program. IMO, if they are found guilty of something and dont finish well...the Rich Rod will be replaced after this year. Note: Im not saying that he SHOULD be replaced, but I have a feeling that if it goes that way, then RR will be gone. Remember that this his NEVER happened before and an NCAA violation would set precedent for many upset people at UM. --- According to this other article, there is a clause in RRs contract where UM can dismiss him without penalty if the program is found of a major violation: "The University has the right to terminate the employment of Rodriguez for cause in the event of the following: ** Rodriguez is determined by the NCAA, the Big Ten Conference or the University to have committed a major violation of NCAA rules, or to have intentionally committed any other type of violation of the NCAA rules. ** If Rodriguez has personal knowledge of a violation of NCAA rules by an assistant football coach, football staff member, student athlete who is a member of the team or other representative of the University's athletic interests and fails to properly report it to the athletic director. Termination "for cause" means Michigan owes Rodriguez nothing. If he were terminated without cause, the university would owe Rodriguez $4 million." http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-08-31/too-muc… * Lets all pray that UM comes up clean with the NCAA and wins the majority of the final games and does well in a bowl game.

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jblaze

October 28th, 2009 at 8:01 AM ^

"The NCAA's enforcement staff often looks into allegations, according to Osburn, but only sends school presidents a letter of inquiry when an initial review determines a violation MAY have occurred based on credible information." The emphasis on "may" is mine. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4597080 All this says is that the NCAA is looking into the Freep accusations since, in theory, the Freep is credible (remember they are a major newspaper). What piece of new information do we have post the beginning of Sept? I haven't seen anything. This is all a rehash of everything that we have known. Big deal.

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Ultimate Quizmaster

October 28th, 2009 at 12:44 AM ^

I hate these newspapers and their sensational bull. Look at the last paragraph of the article: "The next step would either be a determination by the NCAA that the accusations are baseless, or a formal "Notice of Allegations" detailing precisely what is supported by evidence." Huh, I thought NCAA was telling Michigan they're screwed.

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mbivens

October 28th, 2009 at 12:45 AM ^

So am I to believe that the sky is, in fact, falling? This topic made my heart stop for almost a full minute. Lets wait for more information that we didn't already know before we freak out. I have to go lay down....

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Blue in Yarmouth

October 28th, 2009 at 9:44 AM ^

This statement is bizarre IME "NCAA's initial review has found credible information a violation may have occurred." I am not a lawyer nor do I work for the NCAA but credible information that something MAY have occerred is beyond a "catch all" statement. On top of that, using the he said she said that Rosenburg shat out in his column as credible information is beyond laughable to me. I would think credible information would be from the players mouths themselves, not a reporter with an axe to grind.

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Tater

October 28th, 2009 at 9:47 AM ^

I'm guessing the "credible information" is a disgruntled ex-player with an axe to grind saying he was "forced" to work out. I really can't see how this will stick, though. If the old saying "workouts are voluntary, but so is playing time" is a violation, then almost every school in the NCAA is committing it right now. I wonder if that "credible information" comes from the Human Twinkie?

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