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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:24 PM
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The "Five of Diamond's" theory



On the scout board, there is an interesting discussion of Diamond’s apparent statement that he will “shock the world” tomorrow.   Is it bad news or is it a reference to the Fab Five (offensive line commitments at UM, if he comes). 

I call this the “Five of Diamond’s” theory (ie the theory that Diamond  was referrring to the (Fab) FIve when he said he would shock the world.).   And if he picks UM, I will give him Michelin's FIve Diamonds award.

 

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SCOUT BOARD

“Sam Webb interviewed Hoke yesterday at the WTKA Signing Day Extravaganza. And Webb asked Hoke about the possibility of landing any more kids. Hoke replied something like "a Texas sized piece and an Alaska sized piece". To me that says he means two large players. So obviously the staff is holding out hope for landing either or both of these kids.

Unfortunately I'm starting to get a feeling we land neither. Think I read on ******* last night that Jordan Diamond tweeted he's going to shock the world. Well going to Michigan will not shock anybody. So it would have to be a team people hardly expected him to go to. So that puts Auburn,Wisconsin and who knows? maybe even something crazy like OHIO. “


“Could it be that Diamond is referencing the fab five when Juwan Howard said they were gonna "shock the world"? He was also another Chicago boy. Diamond is going blue and Kozan is going Auburn... Book it.”
 

“I hope that's what he meant.”


“ A poster on the r*ivals board also takes the statement as a reference to the "Fab FIve" and believes that it is not only a good omen for UM.   As a member of a school that competes with UM, he regrets that it is now a foregone conclusion that Diamond will pick UM.”
michigan.******.comr/showmsg.asp?fid=39& ; ; ; mid=152756863&sid=883&tid=152756863&st yle=1



“I thought something similar.... But he has kept things so close to the vest it is hard to really get a feel.”
 

“I think you're spot on here”

 

”He has been coy. But he also said at the beginning he was going to go thru the process. He took all his officials and yet he has been to UM like 6 times. I think this is a kid who was always going blue, yet he wanted to enjoy the trips plus get some exposure for his boys at Simeon High.”

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:29 PM | (Score:5 Normal)
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For carp's sake, this is crazy. What time does he announce?

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:33 PM | 7 PM CT (Score:2)
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8 to you AA types is what I saw

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing.” ~Bo

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:37 PM | atrout (Score:2)
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11 AM

http://semichigansports.com

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February 2nd, 2012 at 9:44 PM | Don't fuck with us, which one (Score:4 Normal)
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Don't fuck with us, which one is it, 8 or 11 est?

You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.

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February 2nd, 2012 at 10:50 PM | 8 (Score:2)
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I've seen it listed that way 4 places, including http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1050544-jordan-diamond-announcement-will-he-commit-to-michigan-or-auburn

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing.” ~Bo

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February 2nd, 2012 at 11:11 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:4 Normal)
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A bleacher report link does not count. That's like me using Wikipedia as a source on a research paper in law school. It doesn't fly

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February 2nd, 2012 at 11:16 PM | This isn't a law school paper (Score:3 Normal)
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http://www.warblogle.com/2012/01/31/football/national-signing-day-schedu...

http://theozone.net/recruiting/2011_12/rundown_12_01_23.html

If you want something more authoritative, look it up yourself, Counselor-to-be.

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing.” ~Bo

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February 2nd, 2012 at 11:50 PM | you're right it isn't a law school paper (Score:5 Normal)
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this actually matters

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:30 PM | I do not follow. I see a (Score:5 Normal)
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I do not follow. I see a bunch of quotes but no theory. Lets call it the Grasping at Straws Theory.

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:37 PM | The "Five of Diamond's" theory (Score:1 Normal)
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is the theory that Diamond  was referrring to the (Fab) FIve when he said he would shock the world.  

michelin

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February 2nd, 2012 at 9:12 PM | Maybe I'm a bit (Score:5 Normal)
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pessimistic here, but don't you think Diamond is a little young to be throwing around Fab Five references? The Fab Five wasn't even at full strength at UM the year he was born.

Although, I will say the 30 for 30 def. shot up their popularity recently, I just don't think that phrase is commonplace with 18 years olds.  Of course, when you're 12 years old in '92 and in a basketball league, wearing your shorts half off your ass and black socks - "shock the world" is a phrase you don't soon forget.

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February 2nd, 2012 at 9:59 PM | While I don't normally chime (Score:2)
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While I don't normally chime in on recruiting speculation, I would venture a guess that the Fab 5 are still well-known & popular.  If Mr. Diamond had been pointed towards Michigan history at all during his 6 or so visits to campus, I could imagine him relating to their story & becoming attached & enthusiastic about his part in sculpting the future of Michigan.

Anyway, fingers crossed!

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February 2nd, 2012 at 10:27 PM | Especially in Chicago... (Score:1)
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...hometown of Juwan Howard.

"One man. Goodbye! Hello Heisman!"

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February 2nd, 2012 at 11:51 PM | just young enough to think nobody will get the reference (Score:0 Trolling)
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i used to think i was being especially subtle when i quoted things from the pop culture of the late 70s when i was his age.

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February 3rd, 2012 at 3:04 AM | My Concern Also (Score:1)
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I think kids know about the Fab Five in general, but unless Howard and Diamond went to the same high school, I feel iffy about Diamond knowing the reference. Chicago is a big place and Diamond is a young guy.

Man oh man, here's to hoping, though.

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February 3rd, 2012 at 1:22 AM | No, man, I'm pretty sure he (Score:4 Normal)
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No, man, I'm pretty sure he got it. We all got it- the theory was well-explained in your OP. For what it's worth, I think if he commits to M, then yes, you're right on. And if not, no, just a coincidence. It doesn't much change my opinion of the probability of him committing. Well, perhaps a tenth of a percent.

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:31 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Yeah that's what I think to I have heard statements from his coach.

We must not falter! Show strength, show courage, show pride, but show no mercy!

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:32 PM | let's hope Hoke is smiling (Score:3 Normal)
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let's hope Hoke is smiling right now. 

Playing football on Wall Street

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February 3rd, 2012 at 9:28 AM | more importantly (Score:2)
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and more importantly, let's hope he's pointing right now.

I pay for my tattoos

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:32 PM | FWIW Wiltfong (Score:1 Normal)
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is of the opinion that M is fading...........

 

http://wisconsin.247sports.com/Board/23/Jordan-Diamond-7456014/1 

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:41 PM | Well (Score:3 Normal)
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Then i want a second opinion.

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February 3rd, 2012 at 9:39 AM | TVH (Score:1)
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Also stated this...

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:33 PM | Yeah (Score:5 Normal)
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He's going to shock the world by picking Michigan because everyone will expect him to shock the world by picking someone else, and therefor, be shocked.

I need a break.

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February 2nd, 2012 at 11:11 PM | my head hurts (Score:-1 Overrated)
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I wish he would just announce.

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February 2nd, 2012 at 11:26 PM | ...and (Score:1)
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...and he will...in time.

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Touchdown Billy Taylor!

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:33 PM | Grassy Knoll (Score:2 Normal)
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Grassy Knoll

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:34 PM | I've (Score:2 Informative)
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I've read on the FB group that our chances with Diamond are decreasing. One guy posted " Steve on 24/7 Blue Board, he is hearing that Michigan is fading with Diamond."

I'm assuming he means Steve Wilfong. Another guy said he read TomVH said the same thing. Not too sure what to think.

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:36 PM | A genuine question: (Score:4 Normal)
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How would they know that?  We're talking about the mental process of a stranger. 

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:39 PM | They (Score:1)
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They meaning the Facebook posters? I assume they read the posts from Steve and Tom.

They meaning Steve and Tom? They're both recruiting guys in the Midwest, so I assume they have some sort of insight into this. I really don't know much myself, just relaying information I've read.

Practice makes perfect. Unless you're the Buckeyes. Then you have to cheat.

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:43 PM | Steve and Tom (Score:2)
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I suppose the obvious answer is that they talked to someone who talked to Diamond or talked to Diamond himself...It's one thing when Sam Webb says he has a gut feeling, because that means that the kid told him he is going to Michigan, but I always think it's strange in these close-call situations when people start saying that one team is fading or leading.  That said, I'm trying to impose way too much rigor on this. 

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:50 PM | I agree (Score:1)
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I think it probably is too close. I really have no idea, your guess is as good as mine which might be as good as Steve's, Tom's, and Sam's at this point. I'm just hoping he comes here. I found this, thought it might be something worth posting.

Practice makes perfect. Unless you're the Buckeyes. Then you have to cheat.

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:38 PM | I can confirm that the latest (Score:2)
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I can confirm that the latest talk has been negative regarding Diamond.  I have no idea what's going on with Kozan.  If Diamond was so interested in Michigan, he wouldn't have dragged his feet for this long and would already be a part of the class.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day. 

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:41 PM | I know (Score:1)
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I know his coach had always wanted him to wait to commit to help draw attention to fellow players on the team. I think that's why he hadn't yet committed. As for the recent news, I'm not too sure what to make.

Practice makes perfect. Unless you're the Buckeyes. Then you have to cheat.

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:43 PM | I've heard from quite a few (Score:1)
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Joined: 01/18/2010
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I've heard from quite a few sites that Diamond likely won't sign with Michigan.

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February 2nd, 2012 at 10:07 PM | As have i.  I've had a bad (Score:2)
ChuckWood
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As have i.  I've had a bad feeling about him since day one.  No doubt, great talent with great size, but he has never shown a true attraction to Michigan.  I want the kid but doubt he will sign with us.

He's shown more affection toward Arkansas.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day. 

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:34 PM | I agree (Score:2 Normal)
manchild56
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I wont both him and Kozan but jeez I ma getting worn out reading, sleeping, thinking, hearing rumors about all these kids and 2012 is over in recruiting for the most part. Honestly if he is gonna shock the world it isnt U of M i I am sorry everyone in the world who knows anything about the situation knows U of M would not even be close to a shock. So either way we find out tomorrow and I hope it is going blue.

21 years of coaching and every senior who stayed had at least 1 big ten title... That is what " Those who stay will be champions" will really get you Ohio native Bo Schembechler.

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:36 PM | Recruits and my Ex (Score:5 Normal)
Goblueman
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Both been getting on my nerves lately...so far every recruit who 'has been a Mich lean' has gone somewhere else.I've learned if it takes em forever to decide they aren't coming.

Goblueman-Wayne,Mich

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:37 PM | I think we get neither (Score:4 Normal)
nikj
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I think we get neither Diamond nor Kozan and I'm okay with that. I'd rather they commit, but the buzz seems to suggest they're both going elsewhere. Hopefully it's to another conference if they don't go to Michigan.

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:38 PM | So, what you're saying, is (Score:2)
Bando Calrissian
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So, what you're saying, is that he's faxing a LOI to Evanston?  Bloomington?  Minneapolis?

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February 2nd, 2012 at 9:42 PM | Houston (Score:1)
ShruteBeetFarms
Joined: 09/25/2010
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He'll be a cougar with Greenberry.

"I'm not a vegetarian b/c I love animals. I'm a vegetarian b/c I hate plants"

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:39 PM | So am I the only one that (Score:4 Normal)
MGoneBlue
Joined: 05/30/2011
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So am I the only one that thinks random Twitter postings are NOT a coded clue on a recruit's destination?

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February 2nd, 2012 at 10:15 PM | The opposite (Score:1)
MGoBrewMom
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Remember Garnet

Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:40 PM | Go Blue Jordon! (Score:3 Normal)
smotheringD
Joined: 09/15/2010
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Adding Diamond would build a fortress around Shane.

He'd have all day to shred opposing secondaries.

"Everything in Defense starts with delivering a blow."

- Greg Mattison

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:47 PM | (Score:-1 Flamebait)
Tyang
Joined: 09/14/2011
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why is everybody talking bout shane like he's going to step rite in and start. dont get me wrong. i love the kid and hope he's lights out for us. we still got great qbs in gardner and bellomy. give em some respect.

John 14:6 - Jesus said " I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the father except through me."

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February 2nd, 2012 at 9:25 PM | OMG - my brother's, sister's, girlfriend's, hairdresser (Score:3 Insightful)
LB
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heard on twitter that he was going to  commit, right up until you misspelled his name!

Adequate doesn't cut it here - G. Mattison

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February 2nd, 2012 at 9:48 PM | Isn't your brother's sister (Score:4 Normal)
AmaizeingBlue
Joined: 09/01/2010
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Isn't your brother's sister your sister?  So this story is now more likely true.  Since you heard it from your sister's, girlfriend's(?!?!), hairdresser.

"I got something to prove to my teammates, that's it."

-Denard.

 

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:39 PM | Sounds like .. (Score:-1 Flamebait)
sports fan
Joined: 07/19/2009
MGoPoints: 20

Sounds like Mr. Diamond is a little full of himself.  Evidence: his recruitment overall; having to have his own personal  signing day; now this.

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:44 PM | It's his school's signing day... (Score:2)
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And he reportedly dragged out the recruiting to help draw attention to his teammates.

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:47 PM | Every athlete signing a NLI (Score:2)
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Every athlete signing a NLI at his school is signing tomorrow. It's for some ceremony or something.

Special Teams means special times!

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February 2nd, 2012 at 8:47 PM | It isn't "his own personal signing day" (Score:3 Normal)
NorthSideBlueFan
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It is his school Chicago Simeon's and he is announcing with his teammates. So you are completely off base and probably shouldn't be bad mouthing a kid that every UM fan and poster on this board REALLY wants unless you know what the hell you are talking about.

"... never forget that Ohio is still a four-letter word."
-Bob Ufer

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