The shockers pull off the shocker.
that is nice bonus change
Man ohio's chances are looking good
I might be overstating this, but I honestly think there's a better chance for the B1G to get 3 or 4 teams in the Final Four than to get zero.
Ohio State and Indiana should cruise there, frankly. Michigan is like a 1 in 3 shot, higher if someone (GOOOOOOOOOPHERS!) can take down Florida for us.
Sparty has a tough road, but I like how they match up with Duke. Louisville I like considerably less, because I think Keith Appling secretly sucks.
Miami (YTM) is in Indiana's region. Cruise is hardly a word I'd use.
it seems the secret is out, LMAO
Ironically, I would like our chances better against Louisville than against Kansas. Louisville might be the better team, but they are guard-oriented and like to press. And we look rather good against the press.
Absolutely. I want to play press teams the rest of the way. Withey's ability to alter shots concerns me considerably more than Louisville's press would.
Oh, the irony.
But I honestly do NOT want to play Minnesota. They know us far to well and should not be looked at as an 11 seed, but as a talented team that has underachieved and knows our tendencies.
Beilein vs. Tubby is good for like 15 points.
Yeah, we're like 8-1 against Minnesota the last few years. They may be familiar with us, but we know their tendencies even better.
In all seriousness my bracket's final four is OSU, Mich, Indiana and MSU with OSU beating Indiana for the title.
I'm liking my chances so far.
But IU with the title. It'll be a fun next few rounds
I wouldn't "like" the chances. Indiana has Miami/Marquette and Syracuse to deal with. We have Kansas and odds are Florida, Ohio State's road is by far the easiest, and Michigan State has Duke and Louisville.
I would go ahead and assume 2/4 won't make it.
Cuse can't score. They survive because their length bothers teams in that 2-3 zone. I don't think Indiana will have this problem, and Oladipo will take away Carter-Williams and probably force even more turnovers than he usually commits.
Miami's tougher, but ultimately not as good as Indiana. Marquette's not very good but has gotten VERY lucky to advance.
Albeit, this year's Syracuse is not as strong offensively as some of Syracuse's past teams, they still have guys who, when they are playing well, can put some major points on the scoreboard. And, more importantly, as you mentioned, defensively, Syracuse is a headache to deal with. Indiana has not really faced a zone team quite like Syracuse and I think Indiana will struggle offensively. I am not saying Syracuse will beat Indiana but I would not dismiss Syracuse like you have. If Syracuse gets passed Indiana, they are goin go the Final Fou
An all big ten final four with non-big ten refs would be awesome.
Ohio's chances looked better before Gonzaga fell. If I were a Buckeye, I would want to meet the Zags in the Elite 8. Pretty favorable matchup. Hell maybe they get the Shockers who have proven they're better Gonzaga and have less to lose.
I, for one, am STUNNED! Just this morning Charles Barkley assured me that the WCC and the PAC 10 were the "real" powers in basketball and the B1G was vastly overrated.
How can this be? How can a team that plays a conference schedule as daunting as Gonzaga get knocked out this early?
is why having the NBA guys commentating on college games it just plain stupid... barkley's reason behind why he thinks certain teams from the west are better than others is because he lives in arizona... ernie, greg anthony, kenny smith and barkley collectively have no idea what they are talking about, it a lot like when fox had NFL guys doing the bowl games...
Is this really a shocker? Most people knew Gonzaga was a joke before the tournament. Southern should have converted any remaining doubters
I truly believed Gonzaga would be the first 1-seed to lose to a 16-seed before the tournament started. Mostly that was because I felt they didn't deserve a 1-seed. Period.
Seems they were better when nobody ever gave them any respect.
First thought I had when I saw the brackets was who is Gene Smith blowing to get such favorable treatment for the Buckeyes? That bracket was a joke from the start. Gonzaga's the softest #1 seed in recent memory and now Ohio can sleepwalk to the Final 4... Joke.
Sparty on the other hand, as to go through Duke and Louisville...
What happened on that Stockton play? Did the ball get inbounded to him and he didn't realize it, so he just walked out of bounds with it thinking the ball hadn't been imbounded yet? Critical mistake that might have ended up costing the Zags the game, given that it led to that 3-pointer for the Shockers. They never recovered.
That is what happened. The fault lies with the guy who passed it to Stockton as he was heading out of bounds. If you are passing it to him it has to be earlier.
I have no clue what the "violation" was and I am still trying to figure it out, but I do not believe it is as simple as this.
After the play, Gonzaga tried to make a subsitution afterwards, but the refs disallowed it because no time went off the clock as it was a dead ball violation. If it was as simple as the ball was inbounds to Stockton and he went out of bounds, at least .1 of a second should have been taken off the clock (he clearly had both feet inbounds when he caught the ball) and Gonzaga would have been able to substitute.
Does anyone know the exact ruling? I would love to know.
Gonzaga (basketball) < Boise state (football)
Quit wasting America's time.
If football had something similar to the tournament, Boise would be exposed as well. But that's another thread.
I was confused but I don't know basketball inbounding rules that well.
Just so everybody knows, EricTheActor is replying to DarthWolverine who was being a whiny bitch.
This is awkward.
What was posted here? I only see EricTheActor's replies.
When comments get pulled, it would be great if a placeholder was added noting such. As it stands now, they just disappear and this leads to confusion.
is gonna choke on their cake and stumble tomorrow. or so my bracket says
Ohio State's cakewalk to the Final Four just got even easier.
By 10 over Indiana to advance to the Final Four. Pretty gutsy I know, but I just have this feeling that Miami might be better than their two seed suggests.
Indiana St., WF, and GT say they are not.
They were the better team. IMHO, OSU will have a harder time with Wichita State than they would have against Gonzaga, who is soft. WSU could have won that game by 15 points if the officiating hadn't tightened up so much.
Yeah, but how many times is Wichita going to go 14/28 from 3?
OSU won't have an easy time with Arizona, who seems a lot better than a 6 seed. On the other hand, getting out of the Big Ten has done teams a world of good.
Arizona matchups up very well with OSU. I don't think OSU gets to the final four.
I am really looking forward to the Cuse Indiana game.
Yeah, 'Cuse is big and athletic down low and IU can shoot the 3. It's like they're both facing the thing that can beat them most easily. Going to be an interesting one. Assuming IU beats Temple of course.
that proves what most teams have come to realize, which is that it is absolutely worth a few extra losses to either play in a tough conference or load up the pre-confreence schedule with some meaty games.
One other observation -- if virtually every betting person realized that the Zags were way overseeded, what's up with the selection committee? Also, Oregon State.
You mean Oregon? They were overly slavish to the RPI, except, oddly, in seeding the MWC.
It proves if your opponent nails 14 3's you are in trouble. A lot of those were end of the shot clock heaves as well.
As far as OSU goes, Lyons is going to be huge problem for them. Playing physical against him will not bother him in the least.
I believe oregon was up to #9 at one point this season, then I think somebody got injured for a long stretch and they lost quite a few games without him. Whoever that was is back though, def not a 12 seed