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October 7th, 2012 at 12:43 PM
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First Coaches Poll in History Without a top 25 B1G team

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2012/10/07/college-football-r...

 

 

1   Alabama  1474   58   0 - HIGHEST       
 2   Oregon  1411   1 
 3   South Carolina  1345      0 - HIGHEST       
 4   West Virginia  1296      0         0 - HIGHEST       
 5   Kansas State  1216      0         0 - HIGHEST       
 6   Florida  1165      0       
 7   Notre Dame  1152      0 - LOWEST       
 8   LSU  961      0 - HIGHEST       
 9   USC  940      0 - HIGHEST       
 10   Oklahoma  872      0         0 - HIGHEST       
 11   Florida State  819      0         0 - HIGHEST       
 12   Georgia  761      0       
 13   Clemson  759      0         0 - HIGHEST       
 14   Oregon State  691      0       
 15   Texas  663    
 16   Louisville  628      0         0 - HIGHEST       
 17   Stanford  577      0 - LOWEST       
 18   Mississippi State  558      0         0 - HIGHEST       
 19   Rutgers  410      0       
 20   Cincinnati  365      0       
 21   Texas A&M  208      0       
 22   Boise State  197      0       
 23   TCU  194      0         0 - HIGHEST       
 24   Louisiana Tech  131      0       
 25   Iowa State  73      0       
 26   Arizona State  61      0       
 27   Baylor  52    
 28   Michigan  33      0       
 29   Northwestern  31      0         0 - HIGHEST       
 30   Michigan State  27      0 - LOWEST       
 31   Ohio  23      0       
 32   Nebraska  18      0 - HIGHEST       
 33   Texas Tech  11      0       
 34   Duke  10      0         0 - HIGHEST       
 35   Wisconsin  8      0       
 36   W. Kentucky  7      0         0 - HIGHEST       
 37   Louisiana-Lafayette  6      0         0 - HIGHEST       
 37   North Carolina State  6      0       
 39   Oklahoma State  5      0       
 40   San Jose State  4      0         0 - HIGHEST       
 41   Louisiana-Monroe  3      0         0 - HIGHEST       
 42   Nevada  2      0         0 - HIGHEST       
 42   Toledo  2      0         0 - HIGHEST       

 

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October 7th, 2012 at 12:47 PM
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Well that sucks.

Well that sucks.

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October 7th, 2012 at 12:48 PM
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asterisk

*

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October 7th, 2012 at 12:49 PM
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this is all rich rod's

this is all rich rod's fault!

/s

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October 7th, 2012 at 1:15 PM
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Honestly, if they win out, I

Honestly, if they win out, I think they might be in the MNC. 

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October 7th, 2012 at 1:22 PM
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They won't win out. They're

They won't win out. They're good, but not undefeated good at all. The Stanford game now looks winnable, but I still think OK and USC beat them. Both have passing attacks to go after the weak ND secondary.

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October 7th, 2012 at 2:31 PM
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Oklahoma is not good

I expect ND to be the favorite to beat OU. Their defense is elite IMO and having the best MLB helps as well

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October 7th, 2012 at 8:44 PM
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Both the Oklahoma game and

Both the Oklahoma game and the USC game are winnable.  Neither team looks that strong, and a couple bounces their way could easily give ND a win.

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October 7th, 2012 at 3:08 PM
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I would love

I would love so much for Notre Dame to go undefeated, go to the NCG, and get slaughtered by Bama.

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October 7th, 2012 at 3:55 PM
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Slaughtered meaning by like

Slaughtered meaning by like 48-14.  It would just be funnier if they lost by one more TD than our boys did.

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October 7th, 2012 at 12:52 PM
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Coaches poll is a joke and

Coaches poll is a joke and needs to end.

Surprisingly, I trust the media for polls more than coaches who are busy COACHING so they can't exactly watch the other games. 

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October 7th, 2012 at 12:59 PM
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the very idea of a coaches

the very idea of a coaches poll is crazy. it would be like having a government where only the candidates can vote on who should be elected and everyone just has to deal with it. it is the total definition of conflict of interest

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October 7th, 2012 at 1:34 PM
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You think the Media poll is

You think the Media poll is better? The AP poll for the most part is made up of beat writers for local newspapers. And their job surprisingly is not to watch Football all day, but cover their own team. Which is an all day commitment. For a 3:30 game, they're at the stadium by like 2, 2:30, and after the game they're in press conferences for another hour or so. There's so many games they're missing because they have to do their jobs

That's why there's the blog poll. Sure it's not professional, and some people have wonky reasonings, but at least it's made up of people who spend all day Saturday watching CFB and not working

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October 7th, 2012 at 1:40 PM
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Human polls in general are a

Human polls in general are a complete joke.

They're all based on selective memory and personal bias.

No human poll should play a role in deciding bowl/postseason matchups.

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October 7th, 2012 at 2:06 PM
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Although you're mostly

Although you're mostly correct, these beat writers also watch a lot of other football. For example, the guys at the freep will very well read on the Big Ten, at the very least. I'm guessing those guys end up watching the other games when they can, and spend some healthy time checking box scores of most of the rest of the country, even if its leisurely.

A coach's job impedes his ability to be a pollster. A media member's job helps his.

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October 7th, 2012 at 2:19 PM
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Totally agree but still a little shocked--

B1G coaches are also voters--they aren't bigging up their own conference's teams by voting for them? Out of conference coaches are so down on our conference that they neg us this badly?

[After yesterday, it seems pretty clear to me that OSU plays most of the 30+ teams above them in this poll pretty tough. . . ; okay, OSU not in poll.]

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October 7th, 2012 at 12:56 PM
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OSU

...OSU can't be in the poll cause they aren't eligible for the postseason, correct?

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October 7th, 2012 at 12:57 PM
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yup

same for penn state. thus the asterisk. 

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October 7th, 2012 at 12:56 PM
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What is the point of the

What is the point of the coaches' poll anyways? It is not used for anything important.

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October 7th, 2012 at 12:59 PM
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other than about 45% of the

other than about 45% of the weight of who plays for the bcs championship, nothing

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October 7th, 2012 at 1:06 PM
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Damn it I always get the

Damn it I always get the media and coaches polls switched as far as the bcs calculation. My tin foil hat tendencies says this poll is the perfect evidence of espn's making sure their sec dreams come to fruition. Espn and their advertisers have way too much influence in college football.

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October 7th, 2012 at 2:39 PM
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but you would think that

but you would think that would come to fruition in the ap poll instead!

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October 7th, 2012 at 1:49 PM
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Or one third of BCS

But who's counting?



Worse, the BCS is then used as a tiebreaker by many conferences, including the B1G (albeit way down the list).



Hope the Coaches Poll disappears when the playoffs arrive.

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October 7th, 2012 at 4:18 PM
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And who

And who even votes for the Coaches poll?

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October 7th, 2012 at 1:05 PM
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Where is Ohio?  They just

Where is Ohio?  They just beat a #21 ranked Nebraska pretty handily.  They are also top 10 AP poll wise.  That makes zero sense.  Also, I hate myself for arguing that Ohio should be ranked.

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October 7th, 2012 at 1:09 PM
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No elegible.

Jim Tressel's morals were too low for his team to be included. They'll return in 2013, I'm sure.

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October 7th, 2012 at 1:10 PM
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Teams under postseason bans

Teams under postseason bans are not eligible to be ranked in the coaches poll.

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October 7th, 2012 at 1:13 PM
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Was not aware of that.

Was not aware of that.

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October 7th, 2012 at 1:16 PM
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Ohio is at No. 31.

Ohio is at No. 31.

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October 7th, 2012 at 2:09 PM
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Wrong Ohio

tOSU isn't in the coaches poll but a 6-0 MAC Ohio is in there at number 31.  I like them better than tOSU just on principle.

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October 7th, 2012 at 2:21 PM
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no that would be OHIO

no that would be OHIO

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October 7th, 2012 at 2:38 PM
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listen to hoke; they're the

listen to hoke; they're the bobcats!

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October 7th, 2012 at 1:17 PM
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As multiple others have said earlier in the thread,

Ohio is ineligible to be ranked in the coach's poll because they are ineligible for the postseason.

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October 7th, 2012 at 1:22 PM
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Which makes the UM/OSU game

their bowl game. As if they needed any additional incentive....

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October 7th, 2012 at 1:40 PM
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Let's be honest.  It will be

Let's be honest.  It will be our bowl game too

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October 7th, 2012 at 2:22 PM
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I'm hoping the Rose Bowl will be our bowl game...

I'm hoping the Rose Bowl will be our bowl game...

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October 7th, 2012 at 4:55 PM
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I see what you did there.

I see what you did there.

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October 7th, 2012 at 2:23 PM
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Read... That is all

Read... That is all

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October 7th, 2012 at 1:20 PM
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Sad

Sad, really sad.

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October 7th, 2012 at 2:04 PM
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Just like Arnold...

We'll be back.

We're going to have no trouble with Illinois and then it's time for Little Brother to be put back in the corner once and for all.

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October 7th, 2012 at 2:11 PM
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A Bit Depressing Indeed...

This is a bit depressing indeed - no Big Ten teams in the top 25, but three Big East teams and one from the WAC and one from the MWC (albeit the usual suspect). Oh, brave new world that has such teams in it, right? 

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October 7th, 2012 at 2:52 PM
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So we lost to the clear

So we lost to the clear number one team in the country (and put up BY FAR the most yards they've given in any game this year and are tied for the second most points they've given up) and lost to a top ten Notre Dame team (and held them to their lowest point output of the season, held them to their lowest yardage output of the season, and put the second most yards they've given up all season) and we're not ranked. Given that Arizona State is ahead of us, with a loss to a terrible Missouri team, the only logical explanation is because we have TWO losses. Way to make to make a convincing case against playing cupcake schedules, coaches...

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October 7th, 2012 at 3:03 PM
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Polls

The poll that has Michigan ranked highest is most accurate.

 

- Signed Recruiting Ranking Services

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October 7th, 2012 at 3:46 PM
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Hype hype hype That's ALL

Hype hype hype

That's ALL these polls are about.

And you know what? There's not a chance left for anybody to change their hype opinions. Alabama's schedule from now on offers no resistance. Their schedule NEVER offered any resistance. What does it say that Arkansas, who got killed 52-0 against Bama, went on to beat Auburn? How BAD is the SEC? 

I mean come on, when Ohio and Nebraska have a high scoring game, people are talking about how shitty the Big 10 is, and when Georgia and Tennessee have an equally high scoring game, people are talking about how great the SEC is. WTF? that makes NO sense. I will not disagree that there are some good teams in the SEC, and that their best teams are the best in the country. That is without doubt. But to stand there and say teams like OLE MISS or AUBURN or KENTUCKY or MISSOURI or TAMU or ARKANSAS or MISS STATE, or VANDY (more than half of the SEC) are better than Michigan or Ohio or Nebraska or Michigan State is simply preposterous. 

PREPOSTEROUS!

I mean WHAT? You have RUTGERS and CINCINATTI and LOUISVILLE above MICHIGAN??? WHAT? CLEMSON?? THEY PLAY IN THE BIG EAST. THEY PLAYED MAC SCHOOLS TO START THE SEASON. OF COURSE THEY'RE GONNA BE UNDEFEATED.

But here you have Michigan playing the BEST TEAM in the country by far, Alabama who would crush other SEC teams by a margin greater than what we faced and then DOMINATING the #8 team (but still losing). This is stupid.

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October 7th, 2012 at 4:07 PM
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wow

Conference realignment is happening so fast I cant keep up with it.



I had no idea Clemson is now in the Big (L)East. Yesterday they were in the ACC.

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October 7th, 2012 at 7:24 PM
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In my rantage, I mistakenly

In my rantage, I mistakenly put Clemson before the sentence "THEY PLAY IN THE BIG EAST". My bad.

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October 7th, 2012 at 4:36 PM
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Yeah, tough to figure it out

Yeah, tough to figure it out right. Michigan loses to #1 Alabama and drops to 19th in poll. A couple weeks later Georgia lays a goose egg against #6 SC and falls only to 12th in poll. Both started from number 5, and a SEC team only falls half the number of spots even though the team they played was ranked 5 spots lower. At this point I guess it is who cares and hope Michigan can win the Big Ten.

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October 7th, 2012 at 4:54 PM
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It's called ESPN SEC bias.

It's called ESPN SEC bias. But that comes from a conference winning 6 consecutive national titles, and is likely to make it 7. It's annoying but somewhat justified.

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October 7th, 2012 at 9:37 PM
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We didn't start from #5.  We

We didn't start from #5.  We were #8 when we played Bama.

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October 7th, 2012 at 9:07 PM
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Dude take off your homer

Dude take off your homer glasses. Michigan hasn't done jack to deserve being ranked. Against the 2 best teams we played we got embarrassed. At this point in the season, undefeated>"quality losses", no matter who the competition is. How is that hard to understand?

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October 7th, 2012 at 9:38 PM
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snarling wolverine
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But you can make this exact

But you can make this exact same point about many other teams.  Are there really 25 teams out there that have "done something" to be ranked?

 

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October 8th, 2012 at 3:35 PM
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A SI writer on the dp show

A SI writer on the dp show today said UF is in the national title picture. I about crashed my car. This is the same UF who struggled for a half of football at home with BGSU. B10 is getting no love but not sure I want any of that love.

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October 7th, 2012 at 4:48 PM
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3 big east teams ranked to

3 big east teams ranked to the Big Ten's none. Anytime the big east beats you in something football related, it's a new low.

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October 7th, 2012 at 7:09 PM
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Wow, that's a joke. The 19 to

Wow, that's a joke. The 19 to 25 teams ranked at all is pretty funny, them being ranked instead of a single B1G team must be some kind of a slight.

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