They just got beat by 40+ this list is a joke
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They just got beat by 40+ this list is a joke
Air Force 3-3, other two losses UNLV, NAVY
UMASS 0-6 losses to UCONN, Indiana, and 3 MAC schools
Purdue 3-3 3 wins were E. Kentucky, E. Michigan and Marshall
Illinois 2-5 2 wins over W. Michigan and Charleston Southern, blown out in all 5 losses to ASU, PSU, Wisky, UM and La Tech.
Purdue is the only one of those teams ranked in the top 100 in passing at #70.
We have not beaten anyone who finish in the top half of college football
Didn't we settle this issue when everyone was arguing over how good Mississippi State actually was back in the day? That you're judged on the quality of opponents you beat, and not by the quality of opponents who beat you?
My problem with this is last year's selection of Alabama over OSU (ntOSU) for the championship game. OSU had the better victories but the worse loss and that made the game an SEC lovefest.
Basically choose if the deciding factor is wins or worse loss.
Not criticism of you just criticizing the current system.
/ thank goodness for playoffs.
Actually, now that you say that, I should have put some restrictions on the "not judged by the quality of opponents who beat you" comment. Becuase if UMass whomped you obviously you'd be viewed as a worse team than you were before the whomping.
More like "Losing to good teams doesn't entail that you are good."
That should cover the bases. But yeah, there has to be better systems than what we've got now. Might as well abandon the whole trying to find a "national champion" goal and just install a system with a "playoff champion." Not to start that debate again.
the 3rd best team in college football. This is pure SEC homerism.
They are supposedly the 2nd best according to this list
We could beat #4,5,8 and then 15-25 these list just upset me
Uh, we already lost to #5.
Very true. For argument's sake, though, I bet we beat them 3 times out of 5 on a neutral field. It took the perfect storm of a bad game from Denard to beat us in South Bend. But you are still right, we lost the game and can't change that now.
Everybody knows that if we played Notre Dame 9 times out of 10 we'd win.
/Terrelle Pryor logic
Quite a shot in the balls when your only losses are to the #1 and #5 teams in the rankings and you are not ranked. Whatever. Win the Big Ten and I'll be happy for the seniors.
We need to have a standard response to polls in 2012 along the lines of... "There's no sense in getting worked up about polls, because they just don't matter for Michigan". Unfortunately, Michigan is not going to win the national title, and with how weak the Big 10 is, even going undefeated the rest of the regular season would not land an at-large BCS bid. It's either "Win the Big 10 and go to Pasadena, or... go to some bowl named after a restaurant." Brady's goal is winning the Big 10, and that's still very much in play, and that's all that matters. The rankings are essentially irrelevant.
Or a credit card. Either way.
BCS rankings are going to be irrelevant for us. Which I am somewhat happy about. Our destiny is in our hands - win the conference and make a BCS bowl. If we lose a game, we probably won't be eligible for one. Just gotta maintain focus and beat the teams in our division and probalby Wisconsin.
Michigan has beaten no one good to date. B1G is a terrible conference. The only good team that would really move the needle in the poll for Michigan is OSU. Until then, they just need to take care of business and win B1G. They won't go to BCS bowl unless they win it
Since OSU isn't included in the BCS poll, will it count when we beat them?
/s <--- (just in case)
Anderson-Hester you have Alabama 5 your computer is broken you might want to reboot or something bro.
They are accounting for number of recruits over the last 5 recruiting classes.
I'm glad as heck we're almost done with this thing.
You, me and the sad clown on the corner could arrange the teams better 9 times out of 10.
Only one man has beaten the computer.. That man, Dwight K. Schrute.
Ryan was super embarrassed.
Just win out and win the B1G championship and beat the shit out of a PAC-12 team and the season is a success. Next up State.
Computers are regressing in their "fight" to become more powerful and "knowledgable" than humans: There are actually computers that have Alabama ranked lower than No. 1. We're safe for at least another decade.
"There are actually computers that have Alabama ranked lower than No. 1. We're safe for at least another decade."
Or is that just what the computers want us to think...
I appreciate that the gurus of ESPN stated that even if ND runs the table it does not jump an undefeated Alabama or Oregon due to the conference championships. So Dame not being in a conference could really hurt them if they win out.
Since when have the WWL gurus been credible? They all picked Florida State,Oklahoma, or USC to win the NC. If the Irish are undefeated, there is no way in hell that they are not playing in the BCS championship game. Facts of life.
I didn't see who said the Irish wouldn't pass an undefeated Bama or Oregon, but I would bet my bottom dollar that it was different from those who made those NC predictions.
And those two are completely different kinds of analyses. Not comparable in any way.
It's all the same network right? My point was that people take ESPN analysis as gospel, but what have they done to achieve credibility?
Same network doesn't mean everyone has the same opinion
And again, and much more importantly, these are completely unrelated. Guesswork for "fun" before a game is even played is different than understanding how the polls work in the majority of circumstances and then explaining that.
you are very wise
The BCS just proves that it doesnt matter who you play...its all about your record. The only way strength of schedual matters is if 2 teams have the same record for the #2 spot in the BCS.
Thats why I do not understand scheduling Marque Match ups...The Bama game was worthless.
You are going to need it come playoff system.
While watching I kept waiting for Ohio to be unveiled. After not seeing them 11-15, and the not 6-10 I screamed out holy fuck Ohio is in the top 5!!!! Then did not see them......then it dawned on me, then I giggled.
After last year's Alabama / LSU championship game -- and all the attendant issues with that matchup (wipe-out game, lower ratings, etc.) -- did they include a mechanism this year to prevent that?
Let's assume Florida and Alabama win out the rest of the regular season. That would mean they meet in the SEC championship. Someone has to lose. Assuming either Oregon or ND are also undefeated (not a given) ... is there a chance we'd see another all-SEC NC with a rematch of Florida and Alabama?
As for Michigan and its BCS ranking ... meh. Just play solid football and win out the rest the games. The rest will take care of itself.
is also to avoid an SEC vs. SEC championship game. I'd hate to see the SEC get beaten in the MNC game two years in a row.
No, that probably wouldn't happen. That's a similar scenario to UM and tOSU 2006, with a loss coming in the teams final game of the season. What made Bama and LSU work was that they were both in the west, and Bama didn't play in the title game.
I think there's too much of a gap between the elite teams and the good teams this year. Am I the only one with that sense? I see a lot of overrated teams so far.
Other than Bama and Oregon, I have used the word " terrible" to describe every team in the top 25. I'm sure that none of these team are terrible but Bama set the bar really high on Septmber 1st.
But if you wanted to really waste everyone's time, you should have directed them to the BCS selection pre-show, and told them it would be something worth watching.... like a seal bouncing a ball on its nose
Are we looking at a rematch in the Rose if we win the big ten?
Assuming Bama stays at #1, I'd say close to 50-50, but I'll lean no. Sugar will get to pick an at-large team before the Rose will, so they'll take either ND or the top SEC team left.
It bothers me that UM isn't ranked becasue those 16-25 teams don't sport great resumes either in most cases, but that's what happens with 2 losses. At the end of the year, I think this team finishes as a top-10 outfit, which is great.
I will say, Florida as #2 is a recipe for disaster. That is not the #2 team in the country, just one that got to beat a mediocre LSU team.
When your conference has dominated, the way the SEC has, you get a few perks.
HAY GAIZ WHY AREN'T WE RANKED JUST CUZ WE LOST TO ALAB$MA AND NOTRE SHAME ON THE ROAD???
these are the rankings you should pay attention to... these are obviously slightly more predictive than descriptive as bookmakers/bettors use them to set lines / find value.
I look forward to a day when these rankings don't appear fixed.