Fire Hoke
It's time. There is more than enough evidence. Can anyone give one good reason why this guy should remain head coach at Michigan? He was a mediocre MAC coach and has shown nothing to suggest that he's capable of leading us to success. Fire him now, and take Brandon with him. I'm really not being emotional here, it's just objectively obvious. The guy is a bad coach.
September 6th, 2014 at 10:24 PM ^
Goddammit can we at least wait until week 10 to start these threads.
September 7th, 2014 at 12:08 AM ^
Every year or just this year?
September 6th, 2014 at 10:24 PM ^
September 6th, 2014 at 10:24 PM ^
September 6th, 2014 at 10:24 PM ^
And it won't happen quickly. Doubt the new president wants to measure his clout early in the game with a power struggle like this when he's trying to downplay sports a little in the first place.
September 6th, 2014 at 10:24 PM ^
September 6th, 2014 at 10:36 PM ^
Some success/competence would be nice, though, wouldn't it? I don't necessarily care if they win a bunch of championships at this point. They're a long way from that. I really don't think Oregon was the best team you could pick to make your point. Let's at least move somewhere halfway between this shit and National Championships.
September 6th, 2014 at 10:43 PM ^
September 6th, 2014 at 11:19 PM ^
SEC teams are we playing a year? We're not competitive down south out west or in our own backyard.
September 6th, 2014 at 10:25 PM ^
September 6th, 2014 at 10:26 PM ^
No no. This is all because Rich Rod didn't recruit enough offensive lineman five fucking years ago. (Just kidding. Hoke totally needs to be fired. This is all on him.)
September 6th, 2014 at 10:26 PM ^
Hoke shouldn't even be allowed to return to Ann Arbor after this horseshit. Fire him now and Brandon can go with him. Both these morons are destroying this program.
September 6th, 2014 at 10:27 PM ^
It is blatantly obvious now.
September 6th, 2014 at 10:27 PM ^
You all are idiots.
If we reel off 8, 9, 10 straight you all should eat lemons til you turn into one.
If we have another year like last year...I'm right there with you.
But right now, none of us have enough data.
If I would've told you all that we go 11-1 with a blowout to ND, every person in this thread would've taken it and bought their tickets to Indianapolis.
September 6th, 2014 at 10:29 PM ^
September 6th, 2014 at 10:55 PM ^
But M left a massive turd on the field tonight. Why can this team not win on the road against even marginal opponents? Something about their road process sucks. Also, I do not like many of the position coaches and think M needs younger and more innovative talent. I like Mattison but can't figure out the defensive plan tonight. No adjustments even though they carved us up like a thanksgiving turkey in the passing game tonight. This is f*cked up.
No pass rush. That is the game. And no running game. That is the game. And no passing game. That is the game. And no good adjustments. That is the game. I personally thin M will end up having 9 wins but some changes about the road process are badly needed. is Hoke still demanidning the team "break a sweat" before road games? Whatever he is doing before road games, this shit clearly ain't working.
September 6th, 2014 at 10:56 PM ^
September 6th, 2014 at 10:29 PM ^
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September 6th, 2014 at 10:35 PM ^
We probably will still go 9-3. Northwestern and Penn St. couldn't beat even this.
September 6th, 2014 at 11:32 PM ^
September 6th, 2014 at 11:46 PM ^
September 7th, 2014 at 8:50 AM ^
Lose, yes I did.
But curb-stomped? No.
September 6th, 2014 at 11:06 PM ^
...the point is it's the 2nd game of the year.
If this is the MSU game and we're on our 3rd loss. I'm all for it. But right now it's stupid to say thi crap 2 games into the season.
September 6th, 2014 at 11:06 PM ^
...the point is it's the 2nd game of the year.
If this is the MSU game and we're on our 3rd loss. I'm all for it. But right now it's stupid to say thi crap 2 games into the season.
September 6th, 2014 at 10:31 PM ^
September 6th, 2014 at 10:31 PM ^
September 6th, 2014 at 10:33 PM ^
This isn't 1991 FSU UM is losing to. This is a mediocre ND program that has been losing on average 4 games a year for three decades.
This is a talented team that is lead by a staff incapable of developing that talent. UM has had the same problems for three years in a row. At some point you have to call a spade a spade.
September 6th, 2014 at 10:34 PM ^
With all due respect, you are a dumbass.
Well coached teams do not get down 31-0 against one of their biggest rivals. The team has quit. There is nothing that will change that.
You remember when we bitch slapped ND 38-0 twice? How did those two coaches end up? F-I-R-E-D
September 6th, 2014 at 10:36 PM ^
September 6th, 2014 at 10:36 PM ^
develop an offensive line. Very few thought we would be ND before we beat App State. This is still a very young team.
Yeah the answer is to fire the staff and lose a couple of years of recruiting because that worked so well the last fucking time.
September 6th, 2014 at 10:50 PM ^
September 6th, 2014 at 10:53 PM ^
Jesus fucking christ every fucking year of Hoke's tenure he's had "a very young team." Rich Rod was fired after being given one less year, and in his last year, he started underclassman all over the place. Hoke just coached Michigan to Michigan's worst loss in the history of the rivalry. He's totally overmatched for this job, as appeared to be the case when he was first hired.
September 6th, 2014 at 10:54 PM ^
Youth is a pathetic excuse in today's college football. It isn't 1974.
Hoke shouldn't have gotten an interview, let alone the job and it is no more evident than tonight.
September 7th, 2014 at 12:19 AM ^
I thought I heard Kelly say in the on-field postgame interview that he was playing 18-19 freshmen in tonight's game (not all of them starting, obviously)...how is it his freshmen are somehow more prepared to play than Hoke's?
I got so sick of hearing how Hoke was able to get RichRod's players to perform to the capabilities they never achieved while RichRod was here...when the truth is that Hoke hasn't done a single thing to develop the talent he inherited and he sure as hell hasn't developed any of the talent he recruited himself.
We are paying a karmic price for the treatment we gave RichRod and repaying a HEAVY cosmic debt for the 2011 season and the Sugar Bowl win that year. Hell, with the revelation of Gibbons' issues coming to light last year I can't even feel good about enjoying that year anymore.
September 6th, 2014 at 10:37 PM ^
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September 6th, 2014 at 10:38 PM ^
Well, there's respectable losses and there's.....you know.
I understand the Big10 is horrible but even then I'm struggling to believe this squad can make much noise in conference play.
September 6th, 2014 at 10:40 PM ^
You have the audacity to call other people idiots, but you actually think this piece of shit team has a chance to go 11-1? You think a coach who has beaten absolutely fucking nobody is going to lead us to 11 straight wins. You stupid motherfucker.
September 6th, 2014 at 10:48 PM ^
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September 6th, 2014 at 11:01 PM ^
September 6th, 2014 at 11:07 PM ^
September 7th, 2014 at 12:17 AM ^
I enjoy reading your posts, but to suggest that we don't have enough data with this being the start of his 4th year is choosing to ignore what we have all witnessed. Let's summarize performance to date:
Year 1: 11-2 (Bowl victory w/mostly RR team).
Year 2: 8-5 (Bowl Loss)
Year 3: 7-6 (Blowout Bowl Loss)
Year 4: 1-1 so far (Blowout Loss to ND, first ever shutout in the series history)
Dave Brandon's Standard (Red Letter Games):
2-2 vs. ND (RR was 2-1)
1-2 vs. MSU
1-2 vs. OSU
1-2 vs. Nebraska
1-2 vs. Iowa
0-5 on the road against top 25 on the road.
3-7 in last 10 games (borrowed from another post-3 wins were a miracle against Northwestern, against Indiana giving up 47 pts, and App St).
No one is getting fired mid-season, but I don't see how we wind up beating MSU or OSU on the road.
The icing on the cake for me was when Kelly commented at the end of the game how they had to play 19 freshmen or RS freshman in this game yet somehow clobbered UM was stunning. I thought you couldn't win with youth.
I told everyone I knew that I felt like UM would win this game, but to lose like this is akin to RR losing to Mississippi State in the blowout bowl game.
September 7th, 2014 at 12:48 AM ^
This team will be lucky to be 6-6. It's a good thing we've got a bad Miami team next week for win #2. Win at MSU and OSU? That's Funny!
September 6th, 2014 at 10:27 PM ^
September 6th, 2014 at 10:28 PM ^
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September 6th, 2014 at 10:43 PM ^
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September 6th, 2014 at 11:02 PM ^
"but too many people expect 180deg turnaround in too short a time"
(Emphasis mine.) Holy shit. It's YEAR FUCKING FOUR.
September 6th, 2014 at 10:27 PM ^