Bolden at 111
Ross at 172
RJS at 184
Amara Darboh at 215
Bolden at 111
Ross at 172
RJS at 184
Amara Darboh at 215
Kidding, thanks for the info!
he's small, but don't overlook him.
You're right, but it's easy to look over him
I don't seem to understand why Jarrod Wilson hasn't been getting a lot of love. I'm probably most excited for him.
And Strobel is #93 to Scout, not 250 to Rivals
And Funchess, A.J. Williams, Wormley, Ojemudia are Top300 to Scout and only 3-stars to Rivals
When do they get updated? Pipkins isn't the 7th DT.
I think friday.
armani reeves #219.
Which likely gives them the better class according to Rivals, unless we close out strong. It's frustrating that we haven't (yet?) capitalized on the strong finish to our season (OSU victory, Nebraska thrashing, and Sugar Bowl win). Contrastingly, Meyer has pulled out 4 and 5 star recruits and in less than two months overtaken us despite a bowl loss and sanctions.
I'm really hoping we can get Diggs or someone off the radar to pull back in front. I'm confident we get Garnett, but we need another headliner to put the finishing touches on the class.
I know the coaches have done great job, but I question how they can't sell our program to a top wideout with our current O-line class and 5 star Shane Morris and Devin Gardner waiting in the wings. Obviously, the true verdict will come on signing day, but in the last two months Meyer has out recruited us, maybe not head-to-head, but definitely on the whole. Did we even go after Noah Spence? With our 3 D-line coaches, I would think we would have had a chance vs an offense-oriented coach?
Hard not to get despondent...
Games are not won on the recruiting trail. Ask Clemson and Notre Dame. Coaching and having players fit into the system are just as important as getting top recruits. As shown by this last year's success, we have great coaching and now we are have a top 5 class coming in.
Get diggs, these coaches really care about a persons character. When they schedule an in home visit only to find the recruit making a surprise visit elsewhere, that seems to pretty much close the door on their chances of coming here.
If the diggs rumor was verified. But if true, can we have DGB instead? I hoping for at least one surprise on signing day. On the other hand, I could totally see Meyer pulling out Diggs and Wright...
No surprises with DBG, the kid has been in the bag for months now
I guess I'm weakened from living in Ohio... I guess I'll rest my faith in our superior coaching and higher-character recruits. I also forgot Ohio had two coaching staffs during this recruiting period to thrive in.
If you're really that worried about our recruiting vs. Ohio's, then I don't think you've been playing very close attention this past year.
I clearly acknowledged head-to-head battles weren't problematic. I know we have recruited well this past year, but I am more concerned with how quickly they pulled ahead. We got the bulk of our recruits BEFORE our strong season finish, which hasn't yet translated to anything significant in terms of recruiting.
I understand recruiting is just one of the pieces and that good coaching is another. But recruiting is where it all begins. Since Rivals has the best track-record, Ohio having a better class means something in what was supposed to be a down year for them.
Regarding Diggs and others, just because a 17 or 18 year old kid makes a stupid decision doesn't mean they can't be made to realize their mistakes and correct them. I understand their reasoning, but there are always alternative approaches and mindsets.
The fact that we couldn't capitalize on our surprisingly positive season finish while Ohio crushed it despite having a terrible finish frustrates me. As an example, I don't see any reason why we shouldn't have gone after Spence, if indeed we didn't.
My point is that we didn't close the gap as much as I was hoping and maybe more could've been done. I don't know.
because Meyer had a bunch of slots available in his class to fill, and Penn State obliged him by imploding and giving him an entree to poaching--what?--three of their top recruits? Meyer is also going to generate some excitement, just accept it. Let's see how it all plays out. If recruiting rankings determined wins and losses, Wisocnsin would never get to the Rose Bowl. Coaching is critical, and it sure looks like we have good coaching on both sides of the ball now.
You're not drawing a fair or logical comparison. In the last two months, OSU has had to fill a bunch of slots, whereas M had already secured most its class, leaving only a few slots for blue-chips of the sort that draw things out until NSD: Garnett types. M has set things up so it's likely to close with two or three big signings. You're essentially blaming M for having secured a class well ahead of OSU.
Also, remember, OSU has not stolen a single recruit from Michigan. Michigan will end up with a top-five class. So chill.
I'm upvoting you in definace of your expectations.
ohio passed us!!
Strobel is definitely getting overlooked here. Wormley as well. I think as far as who actually got into the top 250, it's pretty decently accurate. Wilson got jobbed also
MSU's Burbridge is ranked #103 and the highest ranked in the state.
So, according to Rivals, Sparty has secured the #1 in state recruit for 3 straight years (Big Will was the last non-Sparty)
But obviously the in-state recruiting champ, per Rivals and Scout, is UM by a large margin
He would be Blue if he could hack it academically... he can't.
... if you weren't a dick...
Does anyone know if they announce them today or tomorrow?
Can't start my own of course but nice to see Koger getting some love at the Shrine game. http://www.cnnsi.com/2012/writers/tony_pauline/01/17/shrine.game.practic...
Todd McShay, was just on ESPN talking about how Hemingway has increased his draft stock quite a bit with his performances during the practices.
Cunningham from MSU as well. I guess the B1G guys have been workin hard down there.
A small article on Shrine game practice with a few B1G notables and one very recognizable name right on top.
Edit: just got beat to it, oh well.
Are we overrating Ross/RJS/Wilson a bit? I understand Ross is somewhat small for an NFL linebacker, and rivals rates gears their recruiting a bit towards NFL potential, although RJS and Wilson seem to have at least adequate size as an NFL prospect.
As far as NFL potential to me that doesn't matter. This isn't the NFL and where they go from Michigan on isn't nearly as important to me as them coming in and playing at the College level and continue to bring Michigan back into the national spot light as a contender for B1G titles and national championships.
If Hoke and Mattison believe that these kids are the right fit then I could care less what the stars say on the recruiting websites.
RJS never bulked up the way the experts expected after he was very highly touted as a JR and seemed to lose his aggressive, decisive play that made him so deadly last year. I think that's the reason he has lost some steam to the recruiting services. Still a great player with a lot of potential, just not the sure-fire stud he seemed before his senior season. At least that's what I've picked up from a few articles/tid bits.
no idea what the story on Wilson is.
Wilson didn't camp I believe. That's probably one of the best ways to get scouts to notice you
We also have:
geeze urban liar has already got a top 5 recruiting class.
Who is this "Urban Liar" you speak of?
It be his brother? I always thought his brother was Rural Meyer tho
it is he. the one in charge of the blood that will be spilt by the hands of kyle kalis.
After I ensure that Ohioblueblood has been taken out, you're next.
.........so much stock into how Meyer is doing at Ohio as far as recruiting goes. Remember, at Florida he was pulling in 4 and 5 stars left and right, and yet, Florida, as a team, declined in competitiveness his last couple of years there. Screw him.
I care more about Hoke and Co. bringing in high quality, high character kids. That alone will translate to Michigan fielding a good/great team year in and year out. Will Ohio beat us in the future? Almost certainly. Will they dominate us like they did during the Vest's tenure as their coach? Not while Hoke is still our coach. I love the quality of kids Hoke has brought in, and personally, I cannot find a questionable recruit, as far as character is concerned. The fact that he is bringing these kids in, and them being amongst the highly rated ones too, should allay everyone's concerns about how Ohio is doing.
Would have been nice to see him in the class
At least Ohio isn't on any of these players final few... However, I'll never understand why someone would want to play for Brian Kelly.
Don't tell anyone on 11 warriors that they aren't in on those final few, if anything they are going to come out of nowhere and land all 5 and make a real statement.
Urban Meyer is the type of coach to go after the best talent regardless of anything else. He wants those Rivals100 guys. We do too, except Hoke cares about character and the types of kids we're bringing in. He wants them to represent the University on and off the field. Urban just wants the talent and that is proven by taking a quick glance at his former classes.
Thats why I root for Michigan. I would also like to add that while everyone is in a panic about how Meyer has been snatching up top recruits, he hasn't taken shit all from Michigan. The real losers out of all of this has been Sparty and PSU.
and I could be... but what other head-to-head recruiting battles have Urban Meyer and Brady Hoke been in, other than Bri'onte Dunn and Kyle Kalis?
A lot of posts I read seem to imply that Urban has lost a lost of recruiting battles with Hoke, but other than those two I don't know about any other players that they both have recruited at the same time.