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Final Rivals 250

Bolden at 111

Ross at 172

RJS at 184

Amara Darboh at 215

Reeves 219

Richardson 224

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:12 PM | Roos is WAY underrated.... (Score:4 Normal)
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Kidding, thanks for the info!

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:14 PM | Fixed, thanks (Score:2)
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Fixed, thanks

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:12 PM | T-Rich is #224 (Score:2 Normal)
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he's small, but don't overlook him.

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:14 PM | You're right, but it's easy (Score:5 Normal)
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You're right, but it's easy to look over him

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:15 PM | I don't seem to understand (Score:0 Flamebait)
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I don't seem to understand why Jarrod Wilson hasn't been getting a lot of love. I'm probably most excited for him. 

HOKE SMASH.

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:20 PM | And Strobel is #93 to Scout, (Score:2)
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And Strobel is #93 to Scout, not 250 to Rivals

And Funchess, A.J. Williams, Wormley, Ojemudia are Top300 to Scout and only 3-stars to Rivals

 

Class of '97: 4 Years -- 4 Four-loss seasons

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:16 PM | Formerly Bolden 152 Ross (Score:2)
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Formerly

Bolden 152

Ross 163

RJS 182

Darboh 208

TRich 217

Galileo was also chastised.

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:19 PM | position rankings (Score:2)
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When do they get updated? Pipkins isn't the 7th DT.

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:25 PM | I think friday. (Score:2)
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I think friday.

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:21 PM | armani reeves #219. (Score:1)
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armani reeves #219.

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:23 PM | David Perkins to Ohio? (Score:2 Normal)
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This blows.

Carter, The Darter, The Human Torpedo!

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:40 PM | And he's a 4 star (Score:5 Normal)
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Which likely gives them the better class according to Rivals, unless we close out strong. It's frustrating that we haven't (yet?) capitalized on the strong finish to our season (OSU victory, Nebraska thrashing, and Sugar Bowl win). Contrastingly, Meyer has pulled out 4 and 5 star recruits and in less than two months overtaken us despite a bowl loss and sanctions.



I'm really hoping we can get Diggs or someone off the radar to pull back in front. I'm confident we get Garnett, but we need another headliner to put the finishing touches on the class.



I know the coaches have done great job, but I question how they can't sell our program to a top wideout with our current O-line class and 5 star Shane Morris and Devin Gardner waiting in the wings. Obviously, the true verdict will come on signing day, but in the last two months Meyer has out recruited us, maybe not head-to-head, but definitely on the whole. Did we even go after Noah Spence? With our 3 D-line coaches, I would think we would have had a chance vs an offense-oriented coach?



Hard not to get despondent...

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:51 PM | It will be ok (Score:2 Normal)
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Games are not won on the recruiting trail.  Ask Clemson and Notre Dame.  Coaching and having players fit into the system are just as important as getting top recruits.  As shown by this last year's success, we have great coaching and now we are have a top 5 class coming in. 

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:54 PM | We won't (Score:2)
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Get diggs, these coaches really care about a persons character. When they schedule an in home visit only to find the recruit making a surprise visit elsewhere, that seems to pretty much close the door on their chances of coming here.

This might sound arrogant, and if it is, it is. We’re Michigan.

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:01 PM | I didn't know (Score:0 Overrated)
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If the diggs rumor was verified. But if true, can we have DGB instead? I hoping for at least one surprise on signing day. On the other hand, I could totally see Meyer pulling out Diggs and Wright...

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:15 PM | No surprises with DBG, the (Score:2)
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No surprises with DBG, the kid has been in the bag for months now

David Brandon propaganda

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:21 PM | Stop crying... (Score:4 Normal)
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...

 

 

Do Something. If it works, do more of it. If it doesn't, do something else.

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:28 PM | Excellent. (Score:3 Normal)
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Excellent.

"You know, for a bartender/bookie, you're pretty judgmental."

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:37 PM | Funny (Score:1)
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I guess I'm weakened from living in Ohio... I guess I'll rest my faith in our superior coaching and higher-character recruits. I also forgot Ohio had two coaching staffs during this recruiting period to thrive in.

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:59 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2)
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If you're really that worried about our recruiting vs. Ohio's, then I don't think you've been playing very close attention this past year.

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:30 PM | If you look back (Score:1 Normal)
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I clearly acknowledged head-to-head battles weren't problematic. I know we have recruited well this past year, but I am more concerned with how quickly they pulled ahead. We got the bulk of our recruits BEFORE our strong season finish, which hasn't yet translated to anything significant in terms of recruiting.

I understand recruiting is just one of the pieces and that good coaching is another. But recruiting is where it all begins. Since Rivals has the best track-record, Ohio having a better class means something in what was supposed to be a down year for them.

Regarding Diggs and others, just because a 17 or 18 year old kid makes a stupid decision doesn't mean they can't be made to realize their mistakes and correct them. I understand their reasoning, but there are always alternative approaches and mindsets.

The fact that we couldn't capitalize on our surprisingly positive season finish while Ohio crushed it despite having a terrible finish frustrates me. As an example, I don't see any reason why we shouldn't have gone after Spence, if indeed we didn't.

My point is that we didn't close the gap as much as I was hoping and maybe more could've been done. I don't know.

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:04 PM | Meyer has done better lately (Score:3 Normal)
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because Meyer had a bunch of slots available in his class to fill, and Penn State obliged him by imploding and giving him an entree to poaching--what?--three of their top recruits?  Meyer is also going to generate some excitement, just accept it.  Let's see how it all plays out.  If recruiting rankings determined wins and losses, Wisocnsin would never get to the Rose Bowl.  Coaching is critical, and it sure looks like we have good coaching on both sides of the ball now.

wolverine 73

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:56 PM | You're not drawing a fair or (Score:2 Normal)
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You're not drawing a fair or logical comparison. In the last two months, OSU has had to fill a bunch of slots, whereas M had already secured most its class, leaving only a few slots for blue-chips of the sort that draw things out until NSD: Garnett types. M has set things up so it's likely to close with two or three big signings. You're essentially blaming M for having secured a class well ahead of OSU.

Also, remember, OSU has not stolen a single recruit from Michigan. Michigan will end up with a top-five class. So chill.

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January 18th, 2012 at 5:24 PM | I'm upvoting you in definace (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm upvoting you in definace of your expectations.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:25 PM | Bloody Hell (Score:1 Normal)
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ohio passed us!!

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:32 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2 Normal)
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Strobel is definitely getting overlooked here. Wormley as well. I think as far as who actually got into the top 250, it's pretty decently accurate. Wilson got jobbed also

"Dream Big, Work Hard"

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:34 PM | MSU's Burbridge is ranked (Score:4 Normal)
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MSU's Burbridge is ranked #103 and the highest ranked in the state.

So, according to Rivals, Sparty has secured the #1 in state recruit for 3 straight years (Big Will was the last non-Sparty)

But obviously the in-state recruiting champ, per Rivals and Scout, is UM by a large margin

Class of '97: 4 Years -- 4 Four-loss seasons

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:15 PM | hmm (Score:2 Normal)
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He would be Blue if he could hack it academically... he can't.

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:23 PM | And you'd be cool... (Score:5 Normal)
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... if you weren't a dick...  

Do Something. If it works, do more of it. If it doesn't, do something else.

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:37 PM | Additional 4 stars? (Score:2)
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Does anyone know if they announce them today or tomorrow?

This might sound arrogant, and if it is, it is. We’re Michigan.

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:48 PM | tomorrow (Score:1)
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tomorrow

 

 

Touchdown Manningham!  MICHIGAN WINS! 

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:47 PM | Koger (Score:2 Normal)
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Can't start my own of course but nice to see Koger getting some love at the Shrine game.  http://www.cnnsi.com/2012/writers/tony_pauline/01/17/shrine.game.practic...

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:16 PM | Todd McShay, was just on ESPN (Score:1)
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Todd McShay, was just on ESPN talking about how Hemingway has increased his draft stock quite a bit with his performances during the practices.

 

Cunningham from MSU as well.    I guess the B1G guys have been workin hard down there.

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:48 PM | Michigan related Shrine Game news (Score:1)
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/tony_pauline/01/17/shrine.game.practice.reports.tuesday/index.html?sct=cf_t2_a9

 

A small article on Shrine game practice with a few B1G notables and one very recognizable name right on top.

Edit: just got beat to it, oh well.

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:56 PM | Are we overrating (Score:1)
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Are we overrating Ross/RJS/Wilson a bit? I understand Ross is somewhat small for an NFL linebacker, and rivals rates gears their recruiting a bit towards NFL potential, although RJS and Wilson seem to have at least adequate size as an NFL prospect. 

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:02 PM | As far as NFL potential to me (Score:2 Normal)
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As far as NFL potential to me that doesn't matter. This isn't the NFL and where they go from Michigan on isn't nearly as important to me as them coming in and playing at the College level and continue to bring Michigan back into the national spot light as a contender for B1G titles and national championships.

If Hoke and Mattison believe that these kids are the right fit then I could care less what the stars say on the recruiting websites.

-Those who stay will be champions-

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:11 PM | RJS never bulked up the way (Score:1)
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RJS never bulked up the way the experts expected after he was very highly touted as a JR and seemed to lose his aggressive, decisive play that made him so deadly last year. I think that's the reason he has lost some steam to the recruiting services. Still a great player with a lot of potential, just not the sure-fire stud he seemed before his senior season. At least that's what I've picked up from a few articles/tid bits.

 

no idea what the story on Wilson is. 

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:47 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2)
FreddieMercuryHayes
Joined: 12/29/2010
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Wilson didn't camp I believe. That's probably one of the best ways to get scouts to notice you

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January 18th, 2012 at 1:56 PM | We also have: Pipkins (Score:3 Normal)
MilkSteak
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We also have:

Pipkins 14

Kalis 22

Magnuson 78

"I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy."

 

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:02 PM | (Score:-1 Flamebait)
Tyang
Joined: 09/14/2011
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geeze urban liar has already got a top 5 recruiting class.

John 14:6 - Jesus said " I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the father except through me."

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:29 PM | Who is this "Urban Liar" you (Score:4 Normal)
KinesiologyNerd
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Who is this "Urban Liar" you speak of?

I know from experience dude. If you know what I mean.

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January 18th, 2012 at 3:06 PM | can (Score:2 Offtopic)
MichFan1997
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It be his brother? I always thought his brother was Rural Meyer tho

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January 18th, 2012 at 3:21 PM | (Score:-1 Offtopic)
Tyang
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it is he. the one in charge of the blood that will be spilt by the hands of kyle kalis.

John 14:6 - Jesus said " I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the father except through me."

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:30 PM | After I ensure that (Score:3 Normal)
gajensen
Joined: 02/02/2011
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After I ensure that Ohioblueblood has been taken out, you're next.

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January 18th, 2012 at 2:51 PM | People shouldn't put...... (Score:0 Overrated)
bighouseinmate
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.........so much stock into how Meyer is doing at Ohio as far as recruiting goes. Remember, at Florida he was pulling in 4 and 5 stars left and right, and yet, Florida, as a team, declined in competitiveness his last couple of years there. Screw him.

I care more about Hoke and Co. bringing in high quality, high character kids. That alone will translate to Michigan fielding a good/great team year in and year out. Will Ohio beat us in the future? Almost certainly. Will they dominate us like they did during the Vest's tenure as their coach? Not while Hoke is still our coach. I love the quality of kids Hoke has brought in, and personally, I cannot find a questionable recruit, as far as character is concerned. The fact that he is bringing these kids in, and them being amongst the highly rated ones too, should allay everyone's concerns about how Ohio is doing.

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January 18th, 2012 at 3:20 PM | Pharaoh Brown mentioned as a big riser (Score:1 Normal)
vdiddy24
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Would have been nice to see him in the class

"when we ride on our enemies"

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January 18th, 2012 at 3:21 PM | Update on uncommitted top recruits (Score:1)
Amutnal
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At least Ohio isn't on any of these players final few... However, I'll never understand why someone would want to play for Brian Kelly.



http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Top-five-uncommitted-prospects.html?...

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January 18th, 2012 at 4:50 PM | Don't tell anyone on 11 (Score:1)
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Don't tell anyone on 11 warriors that they aren't in on those final few, if anything they are going to come out of nowhere and land all 5 and make a real statement.  

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January 18th, 2012 at 3:28 PM | Urban Meyer is the type of (Score:1 Overrated)
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Urban Meyer is the type of coach to go after the best talent regardless of anything else. He wants those Rivals100 guys. We do too, except Hoke cares about character and the types of kids we're bringing in. He wants them to represent the University on and off the field. Urban just wants the talent and that is proven by taking a quick glance at his former classes.

Thats why I root for Michigan. I would also like to add that while everyone is in a panic about how Meyer has been snatching up top recruits, he hasn't taken shit all from Michigan. The real losers out of all of this has been Sparty and PSU.

I've decided to lay off the food for a while, and go on the booze.

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January 19th, 2012 at 3:19 AM | Correct me if I'm wrong (Score:1)
Scarlatina
Joined: 12/22/2011
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and I could be... but what other head-to-head recruiting battles have Urban Meyer and Brady Hoke been in, other than Bri'onte Dunn and Kyle Kalis?

A lot of posts I read seem to imply that Urban has lost a lost of recruiting battles with Hoke, but other than those two I don't know about any other players that they both have recruited at the same time.

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