A few minor recruiting notes (12/17)

56 posts / 0 new
Login or register to post comments
Last post
December 18th, 2011 at 12:25 AM
#1
Gobluegr
Joined: 07/07/2011
MGoPoints: 647
A few minor recruiting notes (12/17)

The battle for the final offensive line spot is starting to really heat up. As previously posted, Jordan Diamond has Michigan in his top five. Michigan is going to get his last official visit, and since he seems to favor the school he visited most recently Michigan is in really good shape.

Another offensive line option is Kyle Dodson, 247 sports and Rivals are saying that he is trying to work out a Michigan official visit and it most likely will be his final one.

Josh Helmholdt tweeted this "The latest on 4star OT Kyle Dodson. Of interest to fans " followed by this "Being discussed for an official visit /// RT : Michigan fans? Kyle Dodson?" And Clint Brewster of 247 sports posted it on the Wolverine 247 board http://michigan.247sports.com/Board/59424/Kyle-Dodson-6237572/1

Speaking of offensive line recruits, 2013 OL Logan Tuley-Tillman was recently offered by Notre Dame and Ohio State. His recruitment is really starting to blow up and he is looking like a big time prospect, so it's good Michigan got in early.

2013 reciever Jake Roh (brother of Craig) won 1st team all state for Arizona and led the state in touchdown reception (via TomVH twitter). He had a total of 49 receptions for 922 yards and 17 TDs against some good high school competition. http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/bC0db1QN3Emvzqb1jEOQ7g/football-fall-11...

 

Tremendous 2014 rankings

Top
Tags:

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
December 18th, 2011 at 12:49 AM | Looks like Chesson will be our next commit (Score:1)
maizeandblue21
Joined: 01/20/2011
MGoPoints: 700

then Sam Grant will follow, the rest is up in the air all depending on which olineman commits first.

But sir, but sir, BUT NOTHING

December 18th, 2011 at 12:57 AM | How to prioritize (Score:1 Overrated)
StephenRKass
StephenRKass's picture
Joined: 07/15/2008
MGoPoints: 4206

So with the remaining spots left, how do we prioritize?

  • Whoever commits first?
  • Whoever best fits our remaining needs (And do we need OT or OG?)

Of the remaining OL prospects, I see the following ranking:

  1. Garnett
  2. Banner
  3. Diamond
  4. Kozan
  5. Dodson

Part of the issue is whether we need tackles (Banner, Diamond, & Dodson) more than guards (Garnett, Kozan) or vice versa?

Do you wait until the top of the list turns you down before entertaining the rest of the list? Or perhaps Michigan coaches rank these guys differently?

Regardless, it is absolutely tremendous that we still have a strong opportunity to land any one of these five.

 

"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi

 

December 18th, 2011 at 1:15 AM | You should take Banner off (Score:5 Normal)
ken725
ken725's picture
Joined: 10/26/2008
MGoPoints: 4564

You should take Banner off your list, he is a long shot at best.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

December 18th, 2011 at 1:45 AM | Its also up to the coaches (Score:2)
turtleboy
turtleboy's picture
Joined: 04/22/2011
MGoPoints: 3214

remembering when we (me too) were all excited for Sevon Pittmans commitment and then he was held off. Those kids mentioned are the most likely to commit soonest, but we only have 5 maximum spots left so the coaches could have their say again like with Pittman. The coaches are interested in at least 1 more WR, 1 more DB, and 1 more OL so we'll most likely take 3 more, after that who knows?

 

How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon

December 18th, 2011 at 1:46 AM | I see Diamond as a guard (Score:1)
Skiptoomylou22
Skiptoomylou22's picture
Joined: 11/29/2008
MGoPoints: 1302

Am I wrong to think so?

Bo' Money Bo' Problems

December 18th, 2011 at 1:51 AM | All 4 recruiting services (Score:2)
a2_electricboogaloo
a2_electricboogaloo's picture
Joined: 04/21/2011
MGoPoints: 4027

All 4 recruiting services have him listed as a Tackle, and I think he has the size for the position, so my money is on him playing Tackle.

USING GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF CAPS LOCK SINCE APRIL 2011

December 18th, 2011 at 2:31 AM | Boehm (Score:-1 Trolling)
December 18th, 2011 at 2:40 AM | I believe he, like Banner, is (Score:2 Normal)
BrownJuggernaut
BrownJuggernaut's picture
Joined: 10/02/2010
MGoPoints: 2791

I believe he, like Banner, is a reach to commit to us.

Avatar is a reference to this. Go Blue!

December 18th, 2011 at 12:51 PM | Prefer a G/C. (Score:1)
Mich1993
Joined: 12/08/2010
MGoPoints: 246

My preference would be the best player that could play center in a pinch.  I think that means Garnett or Kozan (or a dream of Boehm).  With only Miller and Stacey as center options after next year, I'd like to see one more player that could at least play center in a pinch.  Potentially some of our tackles could move to guard but I assume that players like Kalis and  Bryant are not options at center.

I see that as the only true need remaining for this class. 

December 18th, 2011 at 7:08 PM | Don't be shocked... (Score:2 Interesting)
Mr. Yost
Mr. Yost's picture
Joined: 07/25/2011
MGoPoints: 5537

I personally think Kalis will play guard, however, I wouldn't be shocked if he moved to center like Michael Brewster (a one time 5* OT prospect) did at Ohio.

“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”

December 18th, 2011 at 1:00 AM | After reading Dodson's rivals (Score:5 Interesting)
Vader
Vader's picture
Joined: 12/12/2011
MGoPoints: 300

After reading Dodson's rivals article it seems like its just between Wisco and Ohio

"I find your lack of faith disturbing... This is Michigan fergodsakes"

December 18th, 2011 at 1:02 AM | I think the coaches will take (Score:1)
Look Up_See Blue
Look Up_See Blue's picture
Joined: 07/06/2011
MGoPoints: -452678

I think the coaches will take whomever commits first.  The current targets will notice that the coaches are recruiting other guys that play the same position and may force them to make a decision faster.  And if they don't and a different guy takes their spot then I think that's the coaches way of knowing they have kids that really want to play for Michigan.  

Remember Who You Are!

December 18th, 2011 at 1:08 AM | i would love (Score:2 Normal)
Lac55
Lac55's picture
Joined: 01/18/2011
MGoPoints: 1223

Jehu Chesson
Yuri Wright
Armani Reeves(if we could flip him)
Any 1 of the OL prospects
A te or another wr

If I say a duck can pull a truck, shut up and hook the sucka up!

December 18th, 2011 at 2:47 PM | Wright and Reeves (Score:1)
havkarl
Joined: 07/09/2011
MGoPoints: 36

I'd believe that we would take one db not both. Personally I think a bigger running back is a higher priority. We have excellent depth now, but it is always important to continually reload at that position.

Stay Fit, Be Sharp, Make Good Decisions.

December 18th, 2011 at 1:14 AM | I'm not really holding my (Score:0 Normal)
December 18th, 2011 at 1:37 AM | I don't usually complain (Score:-1 Flamebait)
December 18th, 2011 at 3:37 AM | Not sure (Score:1)
Yost Ghost
Yost Ghost's picture
Joined: 01/18/2011
MGoPoints: 655

why you would that about Yuri. He has it down to Colorado and UM and his last visit to Colorado didn't go so well. I'd say we have a decent shot at him.

 

http://mgoblog.com/category/tags/yuri-wright

 

FWIW I didn't neg you.

 
"True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is nois
December 18th, 2011 at 9:49 AM | I would still agree that (Score:1)
BradP
Joined: 10/17/2010
MGoPoints: 259

I would still agree that Michigan has a good shot, but he said that he was trying to schedule Georgia and Notre Dame for this weekend, ultimately scheduling a trip to South Bend.

Michigan is in decent shape as a sentimental favorite for Wright, but he is still early in his recruiting and he is open to a lot of schools who are yet to make their pitch and have been really successful (USC being the other school getting mentioned).

Hoke is still gonna have to win Wright over some recruiting powerhouses, and its gonna take a while.  With the Penn State moving slowly on its head coaching situation, if this staff is only going to take one more DB Reeves is starting to seem far more likely to me.

December 18th, 2011 at 1:18 PM | Who said we're only taking (Score:3 Normal)
Logan
Logan's picture
Joined: 09/20/2009
MGoPoints: 589

Who said we're only taking one more DB? I don't think that's wright.

December 18th, 2011 at 10:05 AM | Experience (Score:1)
ccdevi
Joined: 08/08/2010
MGoPoints: 326

Is the answer. Imo, something smells wrong about the wright situation. You follow enough recruits over almost 20 years and you get a sense sometimes. I think his interest in us is not as strong as you think. Big recruit from NJ saying he's favoring Mich and Colo? Doesnt compute. I don't know if he's just playing games, or maybe there are some academic issues, or maybe he just doesn't have the committable offers we think he has. Not setting a visit until mid Jan with us also seems off. Is that his idea or ours, either way it isn't a good sign. To be clear, I could be totally off about him but I would be somewhat surprised if he ends up in this class.

December 18th, 2011 at 11:38 AM | Well, he was on a playoff run (Score:4 Normal)
Magnus
Magnus's picture
Joined: 07/17/2008
MGoPoints: 27472

Well, he was on a playoff run for a team whose coach wouldn't let him visit until the playoffs were over.  So essentially he has December and January to make official visits.  Not setting one to Michigan until January doesn't seem like a big deal.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

December 18th, 2011 at 3:52 PM | IF (Score:0)
December 18th, 2011 at 9:56 PM | Fair enough but then why (Score:1)
ccdevi
Joined: 08/08/2010
MGoPoints: 326

Fair enough but then why didn't he come to AA last weekend, we had lots of visitors. Instead he goes to Colo and now ND. I'm sorry but he hasn't done anything to convince me we really lead. And frankly I'm wondering how much we really want him. Seems like we may be behind pushing the visit to mid Jan, are we slow playing him? Again, I'm not sure if it's him or us, but regardless I remain skeptical he ends up in the class.

December 18th, 2011 at 10:51 PM | You can remain skeptical all (Score:2)
Magnus
Magnus's picture
Joined: 07/17/2008
MGoPoints: 27472

You can remain skeptical all you want.  If he had visited Michigan this week and planned his Notre Dame visit for January, Notre Dame fans like you would be saying "OMG he doesn't like us because he's not visiting until January!"  He's visiting several places, and he can't visit them all on the same weekend.  That means some visits are going to take place first, and some visits are going to take place later.  It's how the universe works.

Good grief.  This is overanalysis to the max.  

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

December 20th, 2011 at 11:43 PM | There are (Score:2 Normal)
SeaWolv
SeaWolv's picture
Joined: 12/16/2011
MGoPoints: 148

several ways to look at this. I think the most likely are you visit the schools you're most interested in first because you're excited about them and don't want to wait or you visit the school you're most interested in last so that when you're done you can commit on the spot. On the other hand Magnus is right you could over-analyze this thing to death like Vizzini in The Battle of Wits.

December 18th, 2011 at 3:58 PM | I'm aware. It's just an (Score:0 Flamebait)
December 18th, 2011 at 1:16 AM | My question regarding Diamond (Score:-1 Overrated)
December 18th, 2011 at 1:20 AM | Unfortunately, very true (Score:-1 Overrated)
December 18th, 2011 at 9:56 AM | I am pretty sure I read (Score:2)
UMICH1606
Joined: 02/21/2010
MGoPoints: 1861

I am pretty sure I read somewhere, I think it was TomVH, that Diamond has went all out on his recruitment and has a film crew following him around until signing day creating a documentary. If I was in the same position, I am not sure I would let the quality of a documentary get in the way of my future though if I wanted to end the recruitment early. Especially if I knew I found the right fit.

December 18th, 2011 at 10:17 AM | Agreed although I think the (Score:1)
ccdevi
Joined: 08/08/2010
MGoPoints: 326

Agreed although I think the same logic holds for Garnett. If guys know theres only 1 spot and that as many as 6 guys, maybe more, have committable offers, if they don't jump, they may have interest but they're not in love. The ol situation is really intriguing, I mean who really does have a committable offer? Could diamond or kozan take that spot today and leave Garnett without a ship? Is it possible we would take more than 1? Who do the coaches really prefer? I would love to know the answers.

December 18th, 2011 at 1:31 AM | Slightly off-topic (Score:2 Interesting)
MGoneBlue
Joined: 05/30/2011
MGoPoints: 313

Is there any reason the coaches aren't looking hard for a center?  It seems like a position of need in a couple of years with Jack Miller as a RS soph, followed by nothing.  Can anyone in this class move inside?

 

I'm no expert at recruiting, but this has been bugging me.

December 18th, 2011 at 1:38 AM | Caleb Stacey (Score:1)
In The Shadow o...
Joined: 04/17/2011
MGoPoints: 152

I believe he is the recruit that has been mentioned as playing center.

December 18th, 2011 at 1:53 AM | Along with Caleb Stacey, the (Score:2)
Gobluegr
Joined: 07/07/2011
MGoPoints: 647

Along with Caleb Stacey, the coaches are also targeting arguably the nations top center Evan Boehm.

Tremendous 2014 rankings

December 18th, 2011 at 3:53 AM | They are targeting him, but (Score:3 Normal)
ken725
ken725's picture
Joined: 10/26/2008
MGoPoints: 4564

They are targeting him, but most people think he will end up back at Mizzu.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

December 18th, 2011 at 7:41 AM | Jack Miller is the center of (Score:3 Normal)
Magnus
Magnus's picture
Joined: 07/17/2008
MGoPoints: 27472

Jack Miller is the center of the future, and Caleb Stacey might play there, too.  We have at least three centers on the roster next year (Khoury, Miller, Stacey), not to mention a couple other guys who have taken snaps at various points in their careers (Barnum, Mealer).  I think we're fine.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

December 18th, 2011 at 12:14 PM | Nah (Score:2)
WolverineNick
WolverineNick's picture
Joined: 11/05/2010
MGoPoints: 491

He just pointed him out

December 18th, 2011 at 1:53 PM | After next year? (Score:1)
Mich1993
Joined: 12/08/2010
MGoPoints: 246

I see where we're good for next year, but after that it looks a bit light.  We'll only have a redshirt freshman (Stacey) and a redshirt sophmore (Miller). 

Am I correct that none of our other current lineman that will be around after next year are reasonable options to cover at center?

December 18th, 2011 at 10:55 PM | You mean we're thin at center (Score:2)
Magnus
Magnus's picture
Joined: 07/17/2008
MGoPoints: 27472

You mean we're thin at center when you assume that Michigan won't address the center position later?  Look, teams want to go about three-deep on the OL (that's 15 total guys).  It stands to reason that approximately 3 will be left tackles, 3 will be left guards, 3 will be centers, etc.  When one graduates (like Khoury), then it also stands to reason that he will be replaced by a guy in the class of 2013.  

We have three centers.  Fretting that we'll be thin if our senior center graduates and he's not replaced is logical in its own way, but silly to think that it won't be addressed.

Is anyone else a reasonable to cover at center?  I don't know.  If your top three centers get injured, then it doesn't really matter if you've got a fourth string center or you have to plug in a backup guard or tackle...the fourth center is bound to suck.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

December 18th, 2011 at 7:41 AM | Stacey moved to center. (Score:1)
Mr Miggle
Mr Miggle's picture
Joined: 10/07/2010
MGoPoints: 1606

Iirc, his coach put him there this year after speaking to our staff.

Eating is murder.

December 18th, 2011 at 2:01 AM | OL and DB (Score:0 Overrated)
December 18th, 2011 at 2:33 AM | No WR? That is our biggest (Score:1 Normal)
MAIZEandBLUE2002
MAIZEandBLUE2002's picture
Joined: 10/08/2010
MGoPoints: 1785

No WR? That is our biggest position of need.

THOSE WHO STAY WILL BE CHAMPIONS

December 18th, 2011 at 10:43 AM | WR and TE for me (Score:2)
blue in dc
Joined: 01/23/2011
MGoPoints: 222

I think a good, big TE would get playing time right away

You can be blue and still be green

December 18th, 2011 at 11:35 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:2)
Doctor Wolverine
Joined: 08/13/2009
MGoPoints: 411

What's the word on our coach's visit with Brown? Is he still on the board?

Doctor Wolverine

December 18th, 2011 at 11:51 AM | Thy never visited him and he (Score:2)
Gobluegr
Joined: 07/07/2011
MGoPoints: 647

Thy never visited him and he said they were a distant fifth in his top five.

Tremendous 2014 rankings

December 18th, 2011 at 9:53 AM | (Score:1 Normal)
Bronson
Bronson's picture
Joined: 06/22/2011
MGoPoints: 588

Others you likely think will be Buckeyes: Stefon Diggs , Yuri Wright, Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson, Lawrence Taylor, Red Grange....

OSU fans obviously didn't learn their lesson on keeping perspective, and hiring Urban Liar/Urban Myth/ Saint Urbs hasn't helped in this regard. But I really do feel that day is coming, and that right soon; no school and fanbase with such powerful, centralized douchiness powering its nucleus can continue to thrive in perpetuity.

Also- this is Michigan. Doesn't really matter who you get. Your "decade of dominance" was a sham. We beat you with senseless rapidity before, and get ready for it, because that train is coming back around the mountain...

December 18th, 2011 at 10:02 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
allintime23
allintime23's picture
Joined: 09/21/2009
MGoPoints: 2381

What package is he getting?

All in for some manball.

December 18th, 2011 at 10:13 AM | Anyone remember? (Score:1)
teldar
teldar's picture
Joined: 07/14/2009
MGoPoints: 1302

Who was the safety whose ratings started to drop significantly at the end of the summer? Was initially a high 4 star, I believe, but dropped to mid 3.

Wasting away in Ohio, a Wolverine in a sea of red and grey

December 18th, 2011 at 10:26 AM | Wayne Morgan, the guy from (Score:1)
Logan88
Joined: 01/05/2009
MGoPoints: 2906

Wayne Morgan, the guy from NYC?

We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!

December 18th, 2011 at 11:45 AM | As Logan88 said, it was Wayne (Score:2)
Magnus
Magnus's picture
Joined: 07/17/2008
MGoPoints: 27472

As Logan88 said, it was Wayne Morgan.  He's currently Scout's #96 safety.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

December 18th, 2011 at 11:13 AM | So when are we going to talk about Dunn? (Score:1)
Hokemania
Hokemania's picture
Joined: 03/11/2011
MGoPoints: 2139

Wait, what?

Whatcha gonna do, little brother?

Theme provided by Roopletheme; sidebars adapted from Chris Murphy.