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March 2nd, 2013 at 10:13 AM
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Ferns offered by Alabama as H-back (Per Steve Lorenz)

Our first 14' commit, Michael Ferns, has been offered by Saban as an H-back. Brady and co. have certainly done a great job of discovering talents.

Quoted content came directly from Steve Lorenz (free information)

Saban called the St. Clairsville coach today looking to talk to Michael, whom he eventually got on the phone with, mostly by chance. A long story short, Saban grew up in West Virginia and knows a lot of people connected to the Ferns family (grandfather, etc.), which is how the conversation began. Saban then offered Ferns a scholarship, somewhat surprisingly, as an H-Back TE. It's a total non-issue.

The Ferns' were concerned that one of the local sites would try to make something out of this, which it looks like they have. As you would assume, it's nothing but another notch on Michael's belt as far as scholarships go. He has a lot more than have been reported, but hasn't really bothered talking to coaches from other teams and has gone as far as telling his coach to tell other programs to stop coming by Saint Clairsville to stop wasting their time.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 10:15 AM
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Wheres the quote from?

And who is Alamaba?

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March 2nd, 2013 at 10:59 AM
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its that Ritchie Valens song,

its that Ritchie Valens song, a-la la la la la maba

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March 2nd, 2013 at 10:28 AM
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When a kid becomes the annual

When a kid becomes the annual Shane Morris High School Recruiting Coordinator for Michigan and starts making #project135 shirts, it's probably not worth chasing after him

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:01 PM
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to be fair I think ricardo

to be fair I think ricardo miller predated shane morris in this position

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:33 PM
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Lets hope that's the only

Lets hope that's the only similarity in their careers....

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:33 PM
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Meh. It's not who did it

Meh. It's not who did it first, it's who did it better. Otherwise more people would know who Rosalind Franklin is.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 2:01 PM
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a surprising waste of time

coming from a guy who had a fortune article devoted to his "process" and has time so precious that he has a remote control to open his door so he can save the few seconds from having to get up from his desk. . . .

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March 2nd, 2013 at 10:29 AM
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Did Ferns attempt to recruit

Did Ferns attempt to recruit Saban to be our LBs coach?

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:55 PM
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Wouldn't that be epic?

"Nah coach.  I'm not interested in Alabama..... but Michigan is looking to replace a position coach, which would be a step up from your current gig.  What do you think?"

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March 2nd, 2013 at 7:50 PM
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Ferns should use the "if you

Ferns should use the "if you really want to coach me then come to Michigan and take the vacant coaching spot" line...

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March 2nd, 2013 at 10:31 AM
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Alamaba

I think they're coach is Sanab.  Their located somewhat near Aunurb University.  There tradition of football excellence is unmatched by other college's.

 

EDIT:  Of course, the OP changed the thread title, thereby making my extremely witty comment seem offtopic.  For those of you who missed out on the fun, the OP's original thread title referred to "Alamaba."

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March 2nd, 2013 at 10:49 AM
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You give yourself too much

You give yourself too much credit.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 11:49 AM
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It is getting very nerdy in

It is getting very nerdy in here

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:52 PM
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Just getting nerdy in

Just getting nerdy in here?

 

I think that milestone was passed long ago.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 1:29 PM
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*

Nerdy? I never really thought about it, but yes, yes it is.

 

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March 2nd, 2013 at 2:32 PM
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I haven't read it in many

I haven't read it in many years, but Catch-22 is a fascinating book.  Definitely very fun to read. Is it your favorite?

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March 2nd, 2013 at 10:59 AM
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Their

Was the improper use of "there" a typo or part of the joke?

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March 2nd, 2013 at 11:02 AM
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Don't forget

Don't forget the plural of college being college's.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 11:10 AM
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I think you meant “They’re”.*

ccc

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:40 PM
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Sarcastic

The whole post was meant to be sarcastic, but then it took a turn for the worse when the OP fixed his mistake.

The multiple errors in the post were done on purpose.  The whole they're their there thing - as well as using an ' in plural words - has become a bit of a running commentary on the board.

I'll put my tail between my legs for my ill-fated attempt at humor.  This also proves that the joke isn't funny if you have to explain it.

 

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March 2nd, 2013 at 10:36 AM
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I've seen this story before.

I've seen this story before.  Next January Ferns is going to go on a trip to Alabama to visit his childhood friend Trey DePriest, and then he's going to be incommunicado for a couple weeks...

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March 2nd, 2013 at 11:03 AM
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Alabama?

Meh.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 11:19 AM
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Wow.

Wow.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:31 PM
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It's amazing what you can do

It's amazing what you can do with thousands of dollars of hair stylists, make up artists, designer clothes, and a good amount of post filming editing.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:46 PM
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Unfortunately I most likely

Unfortunately I most likely wouldn't be able to do her regardless of all those things :(

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March 2nd, 2013 at 1:11 PM
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I like how....

.....you threw "most likely" in there so as to not completely rule it out.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 1:36 PM
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Of course, as a Lions fan I'm

Of course, as a Lions fan I'm an eternal optimist, despite every possible piece of evidence stacked against.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 6:51 PM
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uhm, sure, yeah, because before all that

You had this-

It helps when you have something to work with.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 1:16 PM
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Wow is right!

What a gorgeous estate!

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:53 PM
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Is that McCarron's mom?

Is that McCarron's mom?

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:58 PM
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Heh.

Alabama's new recruiting coordinator...

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March 2nd, 2013 at 1:28 PM
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Salma with make-up.

Salma without make-up  

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March 2nd, 2013 at 1:39 PM
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Would.

Would.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 6:45 PM
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Best gif ever.

Best gif ever.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 11:19 AM
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I thought one of the main

I thought one of the main criteria for Ferns was academics, did Saban think he would offer and all of a sudden Michael was going be like " we ain't come to play school"

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March 2nd, 2013 at 11:16 AM
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Maybe Hoke should

call each Bama coach and offer them the open Asst slot just to create a story.

Ferns will get more offers as major coaches chum the waters. Heck, we've offered 100 kids for 2014 and have only 12 or so spots left.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 1:20 PM
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Ohio friends?

Don't let them borrow your cooler.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 5:20 PM
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Now this is funny...

If you search 'cooler pooper' the following comes up:

 

1. Cooler Pooper 36 up, 4 down
 
A classless sports fan. Originating from a 2005 college football game between the the Texas Longhorns and the Ohio State Buckeyes which was overcrowded to the point that fans resorted to pooping in their coolers. Credit for the first use of the phrase "cooler pooper" goes to Brian Cook of MGoBlog.com.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cooler%20Pooper

 

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March 2nd, 2013 at 11:24 AM
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Ferns

Ferns should send Saban a custom t-shirt that says "Hells" on the front and "No" on the back.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:53 PM
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or "Nuts".

.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 1:13 PM
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Bastogne reference

Well played.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 11:39 AM
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This just proves Hoke can't

This just proves Hoke can't recruit.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 1:19 PM
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WARNING WARNING

Sarcasm meter off. Must recalibrate.

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You made my day. Thank you!

You made my day. Thank you!

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March 3rd, 2013 at 5:31 AM
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Yeah...

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March 2nd, 2013 at 11:51 AM
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Not that surprising really.

Not that surprising really.  Ferns was recruited by Montgomery and now that he's left maybe Saban figured the door might be open a bit.  It's a no lose offer for Alamamba (is that how you kids are saying it these days?) and look on the bright side.

Now that he holds an offer from Saban he's SURE to get that coveted 5th star.  I've noticed that it seems the recruiting services are starting to up and downgrade their initial evaluations based on who offered them as much as anything else.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 11:55 AM
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more selma please

more selma please

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:11 PM
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This is supposed to be funny

This is supposed to be funny right? Because Selma is a town in Alabama? And that busty lusty is actually named Salma? If so the whole thing signifies on a remarkable level.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:13 PM
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is there a way

I can PayPal ferns $15 to send saban a #135 shirt?

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March 2nd, 2013 at 3:28 PM
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This is a bad idea

Don't even joke about Pay Pal cash for recruits. Some jerk will try it.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:17 PM
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Ferns shutting

Saban down makes him 1 for 3 in the last few years against Michigan commits.

Good guys:  Poggi and Ferns

Led astray:   Dee Hart

Probably more I just can't remember.

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That's a soft 1 for 3 as well

That's a soft 1 for 3 as well because Dee Hart may have stayed a Michigan commit if the HC situation didn't get so fuzzy.  Maybe not though.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 5:39 PM
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And then you don't get the

And then you don't get the other 2, so in the end it's all a fair trade. Plus we now have Derrick Green and Smith who will be just fine.

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March 3rd, 2013 at 12:23 PM
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I'd call it 2 for 2

Because I only really care about the guy recruiting today. I wouldn't blame losing Dee Hart on Hoke

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:36 PM
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I believer they

also made a move on damario jones a couple months ago, but I am not sure if he was ever offered.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:53 PM
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Saban offered a lot of our

Saban offered a lot of our commits last year. Then again, he offers a ton of kids.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 1:13 PM
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I wonder if theres a breaking

I wonder if theres a breaking point where kids start to realize they may get cut or be asked to transfer if they sign with Bama? Probably not but I wouldn't my kid to take that risk

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March 2nd, 2013 at 2:01 PM
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Apparently

Omar do scare.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 2:27 PM
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As

As long as 3-4 get arrested each year, he may not have to cut future recruits.

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March 3rd, 2013 at 10:37 PM
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Shane Morris

Shane Morris also was offered by Bama.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:33 PM
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Damn saban

Stay off our lawn.
Herm

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March 2nd, 2013 at 2:34 PM
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~ Herm

~ Herm

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:47 PM
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Link to the article?

Link to the article please?

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March 2nd, 2013 at 5:37 PM
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An Article Anyway...

I could not find Steve's write-up by searching, but here is the OVA article from which some of that information came - (LINK). I suspect this is where much of the background information came from, and it appears on some random message boards as well. A few Ohio sportswriters seemed to have tweets about it a little before this appear too. 

One thing that is interesting, and in line with something the OP touched on about Michigan and Alabama competing for the same recruits, a rough count from the Michigan and Alabama offer lists on Rivals turns up, if I did this right, nearly a dozen names common to both offer lists among those players that are top targets or high choices. That we are competing for that many is saying something about how well this staff can sell Michigan even if recruits don't necessarily end up here. 

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:52 PM
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I always

I always love to see Saban waste his time. I hope it makess him die a little inside everytime he see's our commits have loyalty and don't buy the bs he sells. Outside of BCS championships of course. (Just to be fair)

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March 2nd, 2013 at 12:57 PM
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Doubtful

I don't believe Saban is dying a little inside over this.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 1:11 PM
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Exactly. The devil doesn't

Exactly. The devil doesn't have a soul.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 3:15 PM
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Neither do

Neither do gingers.



/thatsracist

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March 2nd, 2013 at 3:22 PM
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The Devil

The devil has souls. He purchases them with reality show empires as currency.



/Kardashian'ed

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March 2nd, 2013 at 1:16 PM
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Not to mention

How can you die when you're already dead?



/BOOM vampire'd

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March 2nd, 2013 at 2:31 PM
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Saban is going to get the

Saban is going to get the guys he wants regardless. I don't think he's dying a little inside.



I mean, did you see his 2013 recruiting class? It's almost unfair how much talent he's bringing in.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 1:03 PM
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Sabans pattern

Judging by his offer to Ferns as an H-Back and Poggi as a TE, I can only assume he's going to soon offer Mone as a Wide Reciever

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March 2nd, 2013 at 1:28 PM
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Ferns should burn his phone,

Ferns should burn his phone, then we'll know he's really committed. 

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March 2nd, 2013 at 2:12 PM
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But then that hinders him at

But then that hinders him at making Project135 grow D:

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March 2nd, 2013 at 1:29 PM
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TomVH said on twitter there's

TomVH said on twitter there's nothing really to worry about that, he's committed to Michigan and to the task at hand.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 2:52 PM
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Don't forget about the Big

Don't forget about the Big Strong Longsnapper! 

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March 2nd, 2013 at 3:15 PM
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/Mork'd

/Mork'd

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March 2nd, 2013 at 2:34 PM
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ferns should make them come visit

Ferns should tell all these coaches to come visit very often, make them use their recruiting budget and time on a player they can't get.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 3:21 PM
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Let's even things up and

Let's even things up and re-offer Bo Scarborough, but as a slot corner, instead of as a top 100 running back.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 6:50 PM
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This is nothing to worry about, but

it shows one reason Saban is so successful recruiting.  Most coaches would probably not waste their time calling Ferns.  But 1) Saban has learned you just never know if a kid might actually jump at an Alabama offer so he tries anyway, and 2)  it's an opportunity to get in with the coach of the school for future players.   Having those NC rings will get most kids' attention at least, so he figures he has very little to lose except a few minutes on the phone.  

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March 2nd, 2013 at 7:15 PM
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I don't see how this is much

I don't see how this is much different from M recruiting Drake Harris. Nature of the beast.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 7:28 PM
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Because, unlike Harris, Ferns

Because, unlike Harris, Ferns is a hard commit and isn't visiting other schools...

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March 2nd, 2013 at 7:19 PM
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What does the "H" in "H-Back"

What does the "H" in "H-Back" actually stand for?  "Hybrid?"

I've always wondered this.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 7:27 PM
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To be honest

I thought it was halfback for the longest time lol. Hybrid seems reasonable but I can't figure out Y tight ends.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 8:54 PM
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According to Wikipedia

It is sort of halfback. When the redskins first started using the position, they moved the halfback out of the backfield and into the h-back spot. I assume it was a different player though.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 9:22 PM
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H-back

I found it. Basically it's just a tight end not lined up on the line of scrimmage (just off the line, split out, going in motion, or in the backfield, so think Aaron Hernandez) so hybrid might actually be right. The regular tight end is labelled Y because it goes X: split end, Y: Tight end, Z, flanker, so Y is just a more traditional right end while H is more versatile.

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March 2nd, 2013 at 7:45 PM
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hard to pay attention...

...after that Salma gif on previous page....What? Other people are posting their thoughts?

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March 3rd, 2013 at 5:41 AM
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I'd love to see one of these

I'd love to see one of these with the Bama logo on it posted somewhere by Mr Ferns...

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