Looks like with the 9 or 10 game schedule the B1G is looking at getting rid of baby seals from the schedule. Nice for fans I suppose.
http://tracking.si.com/2013/02/13/big-ten-to-no-longer-schedule-fcs-oppo...
There's nothing else on right now so chat away.
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UMass is FBS now, right?
Does
UMass is FBS now, right?
Does this mean we will forever have a losing record against Appy State? I don't think I can handle that. Please tell me we can at least tie that up in 2014 first...
Hail.
We can at least tie that up
We can at least tie that up in 2014 first.
What's so great about tying
What's so great about tying the series up again?
Duh, it'll make all the pain
Duh, it'll make all the pain and horror from '07 just go away
"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch"
They are a member of the
They are a member of the #MACtion playing in front of empty seats at Gillette Stadium:
Avatar is a reference to this. Go Blue!
When is the timeline for this? 2016-17, like the conference
game increases? Otherwise there's a Michigan game in 2014 that might need to be canceled...
State lobbying for the
State lobbying for the West...why am I not suprised
This makes sense and actually be ideal.
I thought they wanted to be in East with Michigan and OSU but if that's not the case - what's there to discuss? Indiana vs Purdue?
Why is geography so confusing
Why is geography so confusing in college football? Just do the eye grouping so nobody needs to look at a map
The eye is great if you are
The eye is great if you are in the iris. For those on the outer lids, not so much.
M'Dog
Disagree
Football is the only sport in which the divisions matter. And in football, the teams in the outer ring of the eye would only have 1-2 long road trips per year, and the rest of the road trips would be much shorter than they are now. Right now Wisconsin is in a division with Penn State and Ohio State and it doesn't seem like a problem; under the Eye they would swap OSU for the two eastern additions. Since an away game at either OSU or Maryland/Rutgers means a plane flight, I don't see a big difference. Plus, they would gain Nebraska/Iowa/Minnesota in their division, which means several very easy road trips.
Little brother is trying to
Little brother is trying to assert his independence by moving out of the house...
Does that mean MSU
Doesn't have to play us in basketball anymore.
Sorry, this game just sucks.
"[The University of Michigan] was, in short, the testing ground for all my prejudices, my beliefs and my ignorance, and it helped to lay out the boundaries of my life."--Arthur Miller
This means that our losing
This means that our losing records to Cornell/Wesleyan and our .500 records against Harvard/Yale/Appalachian St (after we beat them in 2014) will never be remedied.
Never say never
Maybe in 2500 app state will be in the big ten
I do it for my love of the Streets
Yes
They could make our footprint bigger.
"[The University of Michigan] was, in short, the testing ground for all my prejudices, my beliefs and my ignorance, and it helped to lay out the boundaries of my life."--Arthur Miller
More like 2020.
More like 2020.
FWIW Weslyan is not D-1 of
FWIW Weslyan is not D-1 of any kind, its D-3. #thingsilookuptoavoidwatchingbasketball
"I just hope Tressel doesn't fire me"
-Gordon Gee
Finally.
Now this is something I can get behind.
If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone
I will miss Delaware's band.
I will miss Delaware's band. One of the best half time shows I have ever seen.
Delaware State.
Delaware State.
M'Dog
Seems fitting that the last
Seems fitting that the last FCS team we will play is App State.
It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk
Was Umass not FCS?
Was Umass not FCS?
Hail.
I think
I think he is assuming that we will still play Appalachian State in 2014. If that is the case, then they would be the last FCS team we would have played.
Rutgers and Maryland join in
Rutgers and Maryland join in 2014. Obviously conference schedules will be adjusted but I doubt they'd go 9 games and force 14 teams to drop an out of conference opponent with less than two years' notice.
Nope
They're a transitional FBS member, and 2012 was their first year in the MAC.
Where's Charlie Bauman when you need him?
WhT will happen if we lose to
WhT will happen if we lose to app st again?
Michigan Football- What you gonna do when hokemania RUNS wild over you?
I will find out where you
I will find out where you live and poop on your porch.
Every single night until the day that I die.
Hail.
And I will light it on fire
And I will light it on fire and ring the door bell. Why would you even ask this let alone allow that thought to happen
If you spell Crisler like the car company you should hand in your fan card before the next meeting.... Same goes for Ferry Field
I'm perfectly
ok with this. just hope we can keep the conference schedule to 9
Thinking about this a bit more...
This announcement probably means that the Big Ten is going for a 10 game conference slate (and almost guarantees further expansion sooner than later).
Assuming a 14 team league at 9 conference games, there would be 42 (14x3) OOC games to schedule annually from a pool of 110 teams. My gut feeling would be that it would be hard to arrange matchups against 1/3 of all eligible opponents annually.
Then again...I suppose 1 MAC, 1 Big East, 1 Real opponent might work...
^^^This.We will be expanding
^^^This.
We will be expanding again and going to 10 games within the next two years. The only question is 16, 18, or 20 teams?
We will definitely pick up UVA and GT. The SEC will get VA Tech.
If we keep going, look for UNC and Duke. The SEC will get NC State.
This is all about footprints. The Big Ten expands to the east and south. The SEC expands to north to NC and VA.
FSU and Clemson go to the Big 12 as the ACC gets carved up to look pretty much like the old Big East..
M'Dog
you
seem quite sure of your self about all of this.
I'm sure of the evil genius
I'm sure of the evil genius that is Delany.
M'Dog
The 10 Games...
I believe that Jim Delany had said earlier in the week that whichever model they ultimately implement (nine or ten games - he gave a timetable for the decision to come in May, I think) would not be in effect until around 2016 at the earliest, so we probably have a few more seasons of the odd FCS opponent (which makes sense since several schools have some scheduled in the next few years anyway, and I can't imagine the conference would make them back out of existing agreements now.). It seems like ten games makes more sense, however, if the idea is to eliminate FCS matchups by design essentially.
"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."
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Nice move.
I bet the SEC
Nice move.
I bet the SEC follows suit!
And MSU is doing whatever
And MSU is doing whatever they can to get out of the Michigan-Ohio State shadow, trusting a protected rivalry to keep that game intact. GUH!
Nine games still means a major decrease in how often we see our "conference" rivals. Under the current system we see Purdue-Indiana-PSU-Wisconsin-Illinois just 40% of years. With 9 games, a protected rival, and 14 teams that becomes 33% of years -- 2-year series every six years. We'll play directional Michigan schools far more often than the Brown Jug game.
Maryland and Rutgers would STILL end up with made-up protected rivalries they have to play every year in the central time zone. What frick of difference will it make to them if they have to fly to Chicago instead of Detroit every year? And Ohio State gets who? Illinois?
With no protected rivalries and 9 games we'll see the other division about 43% of years, basically no different than it is now, except it affects two more teams.
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Drop the protected rivalries.
Drop the protected rivalries.
The Big Ten is blessed with natural rivalries that are already geographical . . . Michigan-Ohio State, The triad of iowa, Wisc, Minn (you can now add Nebraska to that), Ill-NW, etc.
A geographical alignment matches up these natural rilvalries. If MSU wants out, then let them play us once every 3 years.
Or, the Big Ten could have a special provision if they have to break a natural rivalry like Michigan-MSU or Indiana-Purdue, that in that case and that case only, there is a protected rivalry. But every team does not need one.
M'Dog
My mom always told me that
My mom always told me that too many snackycakes aren't good for you. But Ol' Fingerguns sure had a nice day
"The straightest line from A to B is straight: From A to B"
"When you have Denard Robinson, you can have everything"
~George Walden
Look at old JFK racking up
Look at old JFK racking up those rushing yards. Could have been one of the all time greats...
"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch"
I'd like to see them
I'd like to see them implement a 10 game conference schedule and add an FCS/cupcake exhibition game. Both teams get a nice payday, players get eased into the season, redshirt-bound freshman/depth players get to play, and conference games are maximized. If conferences keep expanding, they'll have to do something, and this is probably more feasible than lengthening the regular season or forgoing revenue.
This
I love this idea. The Fbs tune-up would be a great chance to run through some plays in live action, get the young kids some quality reps, and see how some of the newbies play in actual game action. Kind of like the NFL preseason games. Make no mistake - this exhibition will not be all that exciting, but who cares - I would wager that every one of us will tune in or attend anyway.
Revenue idea: If the NCAA
Revenue idea: If the NCAA won't allow an exibition game, then what about a "Spring Game" the week before the season starts?
Just like the Spring Game is the final event of spring practice, the "Fall Game" would be the final event of fall practice.
Football-starved fans would flock to it, the weather is great for tailgating, and it gives a good look at what the team will be.
If they run it as a real game, it's as least as compelling as a game against EMU. The risk of injury is even less because some of the rules could be modified and even your most aggressive players know not to kill their own guys.
Are schools allowed to do something like this?
M'Dog
In 2003 Kansas State played
In 2003 Kansas State played 15 total games (including a Conference Championship), so maybe?
If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
There is technically a way to add an exhibition game
in during the school year.
NCAA rules state that
1)All eligible players can participate in a maximum of 12 regular season games (+ exceptions of CCGs, international games, Hawaii games)
2)A regular season game is defined as a scrimmage against outside competiton
This means that a intra-team scrimmage that is open to the public can be held as long as the starters (maybe the entire 2-deep) don't play.
How enticing is a Fall 'Spring game' where the starters don't play? No clue, but it'll be good practice for guys who have already burned a red-shirt and I'm sure enough people will show up for the school to not lose money on it.
Problem with current rules...
I love this idea. I am a proponent of the FCS/FBS games because of the economic impact it has on FCS athletic programs (cross country, tennis, etc.). These guarantee games have a major impact on FCS athletic deparment budgets.
The probem is that there aren't enough FCS teams currently eligible to play FBS schools. An FCS school must maintain an average of 57.6 football scholarships yearly in order to play an FBS school.
Rework the legislation!
I'm hungry. Time to eat.
For the sake of playing as
For the sake of playing as many B1G teams as possible, they should loose the protected rivalries. If Sparty wants to bolt for the West, they better not expect to play us every year.
Great. There goes our winning
Great. There goes our winning percentage.
/s
"Wasn't that Michigan drive just great. That's like Patton riding into Berlin." ~Bob Ufer
If Sparty does lobby
If Sparty does lobby successfully to be in the west, then it can be forever concluded that OSU was/is/and will always be our biggest rival. Spartys little 3 year run of being in our division and them mouth breathing that they mean more since they are divisional and OSU is not will be over. Good riddance assholes!
Sincerely,
Cpt. Ass-Hat
#UMASS4LIFE
2013 will be the year.