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It seems to me that the ideal compromise is to play some really good circle of death music BEFORE the game. Get people into the Stadium earlier, to hear it. Especially students and younger fans. That's a good thing all the way around. Don't save it until the 3rd Quarter or whatever. Get there early, listen to the music and pump up our guys before the game.
The band isn't there before the game. Play all the music you want; as loud as you want. REALLY LOUD. But all before the game. I'd be happy if the whole Blue Lot, and the whole Golf Course could hear it.
But when the Michigan Marching Band enters the Stadium, then THEY are the music.
Save the cheap theatrics for the pro crowd. Michigan's fan base is intelligent enough to know when to make the house rock without being prompted by RAWK.
It is so cheesy. It's so "Silverdome." It is an embarassment. Journey, Queen, AC/DC; there was never a time when that was cool music. Not when it was new. That music went from 'garbage' to 'Stadium Rock' like bad movies go straight to video release.
YOU BITE YOUR TONGUE SIR. There has never been, nor will there ever be, a time when Journey was not awesome, and that includes the Bronze Age, Renaissance, and French Revolution.
I rest my case.
Too bad there really isn't a "South Detroit" unless, of course, you count Windsor...
Downriver = MetroShores now, which
"Born and raised in METRO-SHOOOOOOOOOORES" does sound great
to the whole "south detroit" term... the term came from a groupie that one of the band members brought back to the hotel after a show X amount of years ago... the next morning journey was leaving detroit but they had this groupie with them and they needed to take her home, they asked where she lived and she said south detroit... what she meant was south OF detroit meaning taylor... i heard the story on 97.1 when the morning show interviewed one of the guys from the band because journey was in town that night and playing at DTE in 2008...
she is now the mayor of taylor.
by implication, is now to be thought of as a "Detroit" school? Is that progress? Is that a celebratory thing?
If that is where we're headed, I'll take Bobby Bare's "Last Night I Went to Sleep in Detroit City."
Dean Martin version:
I prefer Tom Jones' version personally; but you gotta love Dino.
I don't like this whole "there's no south Detroit" thing. It might not be like the south side of Chicago, but if there's no "south Detroit", where are Delray, Corktown, and Mexicantown?
South Detroit is downtown. There is also an area in Detroit commonly referred to as Southwest Detroit. There is a South to everything, including Detroit.
That would also include the Industrial Age! (of course)
But not the Age of Enlightenment.
AC/DC and Queen are fucking awesome.
Journey, Queen and AC/DC were never cool AND YET they are still played more than 3 decades later...
Please advice how this makes sense?
Who was it you listened to in 1980 when Queen's The Game was the number #1 album? Disco was big then. You a big disco guy?
Or perhaps you weren't born yet?
and again, it has proven true.
I don't discriminate against any kind of music. I haven't been to the Big House since they started pumping music in, but other stadiums in football and other sports do a good job of mixing old and young music with high energy to keep everyone involved.
A good song is a good song, no matter what the genre.
Limited Rawk, Louder band, and totally ditch "sweet caroline"...
And more Mexican hat dance.
do we get sombreros?
when UM returns to winning ways, won't you feel that "good times never seemed so good?"
While I was at the games last year, the music was the only thing to really get the crowd going sometimes..
I sit behind the endzone opposite of the student section and NO fans ever stood up around us on 3rd down.. or got loud at all..
I will say the crowd was into it against WMU, but some of the music could be dumped
Notre Dame was the first time they pulled that out and the student section went batshit insane. Then they played it over and over and over and over and no one paid attention. Now when it comes on the students do a half-hearted arm chop.
I see no harm in them.
But if we start advertising like MSU, OSU - I will lead the charge. That's where I draw the line, not here.
When did we all get so cantankerous? I don't believe that the music is a problem. Now, if they started to do advertising I would get grumpy about that. My ultimate fear would be advertising on the field or in the end zones similar to the advertising that is sometimes on the glass during hockey games.
WTF. This song sucked intestinal mucus the first time it crawled up my ass and died! I have to be subjected to it again while watching my favorite team? It's like listening to Pam Ward trying to call a close game. There isn't a bullet big enough or swift enough to end my pain when they crank up that miserable tune. Neg away, some things have to be said!
but I have never heard the fanbase so excited as I did for the ND game. People sang along and actually were excited by the music.
I'd take a louder Big House with more excited fans at the expense of hearing some Kid Rock.
Also regarding advertising, I don't like it but would rather have it than raise tuition, cut scholarships, increase ticket prices... When Michigan needs money (not now, but we will sometime in the future), this will happen.
The ads would be less painful knowing they were used to offset the operating costs of the University as a whole (not the athletic department only).
After that, "Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
But if it cuts the cost of my tuition...
but uses some of the money to retain the best professors or to conduct more research or improve... (you get the point).
If/ when Michigan needs the money, this is a solid source that can do a lot of good.
Pioneers of Detroit Rock as well as Metal in general.
I'd definitely be down for that.
Make the RAWK music played have a Detroit theme. I'm thinking Iggy and the Stooges, MC5, Jack White (White Stripes & Racountoures), Eminem, Kid Rock, KISS, Motown . . . there are plenty of others I'm not thinking of right now.
If you wanted to go straight Ann Arbor related, you could have Iggy Pop, Andrew WK, uhhh...Tally Hall. Okay, maybe not the last one.
I wish GWAR was from Michigan :(
Could you imagine the gray hairs reaction. Priceless!
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Kiedis and Smith are from Michigan. They've also played The Victors at a concert they did in Columbus.
We would get Iggy Pop, of course. But, you will also get Marshall Crenshaw, Madonna, Eminem, Seger, all things Motown, etc . . .
My opposition is not to RAWK. To the extent that it enhances other fans' enjoyment of the Big House experience, I am happy to embrace the change. But, why succumb to mediocrity?
Your suggestion for MC5 is a good one. Music selections that are less pedestrian -- and unique to the big house -- will be far more interesting for Michigan's fanbase. Think of great college radio stations. The music selection is always more interesting than mass market treacle.
I would love to be able to hear the band but until they move the band so that I can hear them in Section 16 during the game then I am all for Rawk music but like everyone else no "Sweet Caroline" and RAWK music in a limited capacity.
It's gets us (students) riled up which I am all for plus I like the songs they play. The real problem with the music in the Big House is the inability of students to hear the band. I mean it's only our school and team let's keep on blasting the opposite side of the stadium. I shouldn't be able to hear Notre Dame's band clear as day and only realize our band is playing when people start clapping and fist pumping.
Not so! If you are seated about 4 rows away from the band like I was the sound comes through loud and clear!
... but Facebook seems pointless to me.
Am I missing something?
I found a lonely, sad cow. Can you help me and fertilize my farm?
The OP is just trying to get some. Starting your own movement is a failsafe method . . .
back to your apartment to blog" - after eating a Twix bar, of course.
And, modesty aside, my wife of almost 11 years could school any U-M co-ed in the affection department.
FTR, found about the FB group from none other than Carl Grapentine. So there's that...
. . . but your wife sounds like she RAWKS!
"Your honor, he opened the door to this line of remarks."
"I'm going to allow it."
"Thank you, your honor."
All in fun. All in fun. You obviously started a great thread.
Yes, yes she does.
Thanks. Thought there might be some interest in this.
plays the rawk muzak so bite a big one.
LONG LIVE RAWK AND ROLL!
If Search and Destroy does not get you fired up, I give up . . .
Search and Destroy.
I think if you are just opposed to any piped in music, you are shit out of luck. I was against any at first, but when I heard it and the world didn't end, I accepted it. At times, I even liked it. But the fact is that we have it now, and its not going to stop.
For me, and several other people on this thread, its more about how it is used. Timing, volume and song selection are the things that make the music good or bad, ime. For instance, I was sitting in the south endzone surrounded by OSU fans this last year. When Lose Yourself came on, it was great. The crowd got pumped up and gave the team some energy. However, there were several problems that need to be addressed. For instance, there was a long lull in the second half. The OSU fans took that time to cheer OH-IO and it was really loud. That would have been a perfect time to blast some Kid Rock and drown those fuckers out. Instead, we all listened to the enemy cheer in our home.
Also, while I am a fan of Journey and the White Stripes, we need to know who our audience is. Don't Stop Believin and Seven Nation Army are OSU staples, and unfortunately, got the OSU crowd more fired up. I told some of them of the bands' Detroit connections, and hence a sort of connection with U of M, but that didn't stop them from claiming those songs as "theirs" because they played them first.
Basically, we need to have a really talented DJ who is in sync with the crowd. I don't know who was in charge last year, but I was not impressed. Find some songs, like Lose Yourself, that have not been co-opted by another fan base ( so no Sweet Caroline, Don't Stop Believin, AC/DC etc) that U of M students can get behind. Play them in opportune spots, but don't drown out the band where they would traditionaly play (like after touchdowns). Use it as an adjunct and a home field asset, not gimmicky carbon copy of some other stadium experience. We should be better than that.
And consider getting the team's input. Ask for songs the players would like to hear to get them pumped up. I doubt Journey would be a band they suggest. You don't have to use all of their choices, but pick a few that really work. Maybe have a contest to see who gets to be the DJ. Anyway, I think it can work but it needs serious improvement.
prepare yourself for some Waka Flocka Flame in the Fall!
Especially the part about the getting the team's input, or at least playing songs they like. If the team gets into it, the crowd will guaranteed.
I think MMB would do well to incorporate some songs into their book that would compete with piped in music. The chorus of Break Ya Neck comes to mind (1:10 in the song). That would work if they got a good arrangement of it and sold out playing it. Not holding my breath.
X Gon' Give It To Ya would also be SICK in a MMB arrangement. Again, not holding my breath.
If I had to pick one, I'd go for M's Gon' Give It To Ya.
There are so many ways for the MMB to make RAWK music lame but they don't seem to want to do it.
I still think you need some music to listen to, music can really get people pumped up.
i agree with some of the comments on here about the timing of when the music should be used and the correct song to use in that situation to hype people up.
Tempo and Momentum shifts with a great song to be matched by it as the game goes along can be huge and uplifting for the players more so then the fans.
I still stick by my thoughts as it isn't so much as the music affects the crowd, it is just a lot of times it was hard to get people to stand up and make some noise. It was so frustrating watching roughly 90,000 fans sitting in their seats *chirp chirp* on EVERY third down during some of the games.. Maybe people haven't figured out how hard it is on the other team to hear when 100,000+ are yelling. IDK just my 2 cents
Is that whoever's in charge of the music has AWFUL timing. During a timeout, they won't play anything for a few minutes.
Then, right when the players are about to run back onto the field, they play the long intro to Lose Yourself. By the time, it gets to the good part, the play is about to start so they have to shut off the music. What a bunch of morons! Learn timing
But not cheap manipulation. The best music to me? The roar of the crowd when Michigan scores a meaningful TD. I'm an old crab, and I know it. But don't try to jerk me around to get me to yell when where is nothing to yell about. Don't pump Rawk music just to jack crowd emotions up. I'll stand all game, no problem. I'll yell 'til I'm hoarse. I'll cheer the team. I'll sing the Victors again and again. I'll gladly chant "Let's go blue" and "blue/gold." I'll smile at loud rap pumping out during workouts and the circle of death. But I hate the lame "keys" thing. And I hate most of all being told what to do and when to cheer, especially by morons who don't know when there is something really worth cheering about. If Rawk is just used to "pump you up," well, you can keep it.
As long as you aren't one of those fans that sit in their seat when it's third down for the opposing team, and I can hear crickets chirping in the crowd. I won't say it's always been like that, but with the last few years of struggle it has been a complete joke to get the fans to be behind the team. They need enough help as it is sometimes.