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Fake Buckeye Alert: Craig Krenzel

From Sporting News Radio this morning, Krenzel didn't exactly shower Tressel's funeral pyre with flowers:

  • “Coach Tressel has to look in the mirror,” Krenzel said. “He has to hang his hat on it. Our football coach got caught holding a smoking gun in his hand.”

  • “He was obviously flawed,” Krenzel said. “Maybe he wasn’t as good or perfect, especially that Buckeyes fans wanted him to be or pictured him to be.”

  • “People are disgusted, disappointed. Frankly we’re embarrassed by it more than anything.”
  • “I do think it is going to get worse,” Krenzel said. “This situation is ugly and it’s going to get uglier.”

Good for you, Craig.  Now run and hide. 

http://eye-on-college-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29532522/29716205

 

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June 1st, 2011 at 2:25 PM | He is from Michigan, so this (Score:2)
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He is from Michigan, so this was probably just the last straw for the Buckeye fanbase.

I hope to be like dang for large sections of the season.

You come at the king, you best not miss.
 

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June 1st, 2011 at 3:46 PM | They'll clearly be calling (Score:2)
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They'll clearly be calling them a Closet Wolverine any minute now.

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June 1st, 2011 at 2:25 PM | It's quite evident Krenzel (Score:3 Normal)
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It's quite evident Krenzel wasn't born and raised in Ohio as a Buckeye fan.

Good for him.  I'm glad to know he's embarrassed and disgusted by Tressel's actions and not afraid to say so.

"the Spirit of Michigan...is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways....and a conviction that nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours" - Fielding Yost
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June 1st, 2011 at 2:25 PM | I went to the same high (Score:4 Normal)
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I went to the same high school as Krenzel, he's a very smart smart and approachable guy, not surprised at all to hear him say this. At least there is one clear thinking Buckeye, probably because he's from Michigan.

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June 1st, 2011 at 2:27 PM | Kraig must have been hanging (Score:1)
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Kraig must have been hanging out with Ray Small recently. /s Either that or being from Michigan finally made him "see the light." /s

Edit: WAY too slow with my "state of Michigan" comment.

Nobody home...

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June 1st, 2011 at 2:27 PM | No Craig! (Score:1)
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Not the truth, because frankly, they can't handle the truth.

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June 1st, 2011 at 2:28 PM | That last one = "This business will get out of control" (Score:3 Normal)
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"It'll get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it"

/sorry i've been reading the edsbs message boards too much lately

 

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When I feel like I'm winnin when I'm losin again

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June 1st, 2011 at 2:29 PM | Is this a real report? (Score:1 Normal)
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Seriously.

 

Your MGoLawyer in Columbus.  Unabashedly representing the interests of Wolverines all across enemy territory and now back hoMe.

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June 1st, 2011 at 2:31 PM | (No subject) (Score:2)
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My personal Run & Hide favorite  ( won't let me embed)

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June 1st, 2011 at 2:33 PM | Fake (Score:1)
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Fake as hell. 

I hear Nashville is lovely this time of year. 

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June 1st, 2011 at 2:42 PM | For having morales hes fake? (Score:0 Overrated)
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For having morales hes fake? No think this makes him a stand up guy.

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June 1st, 2011 at 3:27 PM | Jose Morales? (Score:5 Funny)
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Jose Morales?

I hope to be like dang for large sections of the season.

You come at the king, you best not miss.
 

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June 1st, 2011 at 5:08 PM | no (Score:3 Normal)
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clearly he was referring to former Michigan longsnapper George Morales:

For my privacy, my new username is "non-Oriental non-Andrew"
 

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June 1st, 2011 at 2:35 PM | Hanging Offense (Score:3 Normal)
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Credit to Krenzel for having the courage to call things the way he sees them.  One question, though.  Why does Tressel have to hang his hat on the mirror?

  • "Of course I care about that stuff.  To the point of irrationality.  It will always be Michigan first, cancer second."  Jim Mandich (RIP)
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June 1st, 2011 at 2:37 PM | Because (Score:5 Funny)
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He's holding a smoking gun. Obviously.

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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June 1st, 2011 at 2:45 PM | It seems to me that this interview was more nuanced. (Score:1 Normal)
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This thread appears to take the view that Krenzel has finally turned on OSU and is condemning Tressel.  I'm not at all sure that that is a fair characterization.

On Tressel:

“The person I had the opportunity to spend a lot of time with was not the man that people see right now.”

As for the descriptive "disgust":

Krenzel said he didn’t think Ohio State fans were necessarily angry at Tressel or quarterback Terrelle Pryor.

“I think it’s more disgusted,” Krenzel said. “People are disgusted, disappointed. Frankly we’re embarrassed by it more than anything.”

But Krenzel does lay into the Tat 5 & Company:

Krenzel said the current players deserve blame for what has happened.

“It’s a different generation,” Krenzel said. “What was a great opportunity at Ohio State … that’s all been forgotten. In my opinion, it’s turned into coming in as a freshman [and thinking] ‘what can I get?’ It’s disappointing to see all around the country, not just Ohio State, what college football is turning into.

“Guys come in with this sense of entitlement and a screwed up set of priorities. Part of the blame is on them.”

And finally, Krenzel does NOT say that he predicts more allegations, etc.:

 

Krenzel said he doesn’t believe any more allegations will surface at Ohio State, but that doesn’t make the future outlook any better.

“I do think it is going to get worse,” Krenzel said. “This situation is ugly and it’s going to get uglier.”

 

 

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June 1st, 2011 at 2:56 PM | Jesus Tapdancing Christ, S1 (Score:5 Normal)
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I've tried to support you. I really have.  But you've lost me.  Not everything is an example of people ripping things out of context to go all William Randolph Hearst-meets-Snidely Whiplash on a poor unsuspecting target.  Fisk fisking? Fisk fisking:

As for the descriptive "disgust":

Krenzel said he didn’t think Ohio State fans were necessarily angry at Tressel or quarterback Terrelle Pryor.

Did you read the part before the Pryor part? He was talking about both Pryor AND TRESSEL.

But Krenzel does lay into the Tat 5 & Company

I never said he did. So while he did say that the players deserve part of the blame, he also blames Tressel. This is unlike many Bucknuts, who seem to think that this was ALL about the players, and that Tressel was the poor escape goat.

Krenzel does NOT say that he predicts more allegations, etc.

Where did I say he did? All I was suggesting was that, unlike many in Buckeye Nation, he does not think the resignation will result in happy times, free candy, and attractive strippers for all.

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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June 1st, 2011 at 3:10 PM | All is forgiven... (Score:4 Funny)
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It's a special day when we get a visit from the Escape Goat!

 

 

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June 1st, 2011 at 3:20 PM | Nice (Score:3 Funny)
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How I love a good escape goat...

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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June 1st, 2011 at 3:06 PM | When Section 1 was a wee lad, (Score:5 Normal)
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When Section 1 was a wee lad, his pappy advised him "never let an opportunity to be contrarian go to waste, even if you have to manufacture a nonexistent dispute."  And good golly, he has lived his life in accordance with pappy's advice!

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June 1st, 2011 at 2:44 PM | Krenzel is not a fake buckeye (Score:0 Redundant)
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Krenzel is not a fake buckeye for saying how he truly feels about the situation. He was the starting qb on a NC team but you have to remember he was a Cooper recruit, none of them seem to high on Tressel.

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June 1st, 2011 at 2:49 PM | You don't pick up sarcasm well, (Score:3 Normal)
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do you?

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June 1st, 2011 at 2:50 PM | Smoking guns? Hang your hat on the mirror? (Score:2)
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Does this guy always talk like the writer of a Steven Seagal movie??

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June 1st, 2011 at 2:53 PM | Wow (Score:1)
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Hope he doesn't have to join Herbstreit in Nashville.

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June 1st, 2011 at 3:03 PM | Should be noted (Score:1)
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Krenzel is one of the smartest Buckeyes to play there in the last 20 years, maybe longer.

 

I liked him before this, like him more now.  Refreshing to hear this versus the standard party line of what a great man Tressel is from people like Herbie/Spielman.

 

by the way listen to their voices, you can hear it, they don't really believe the BS their saying themselves, just playing the party line.

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June 1st, 2011 at 3:08 PM | I'm listening to Krenzel on (Score:1)
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I'm listening to Krenzel on WBNS FM Columbus via TuneIn Radio right now.

He just said he'd be shocked if more players don't come clean and take their medicine. 

"[T]here were a lot of people predicting glorious heights for Rich; mostly the same people who are predicting doom and gloom [for Hoke]. Excuse me if I doubt their prognostication skills." -- M-Wolverine

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June 1st, 2011 at 3:17 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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Now he just got done debunking "but everybody does it" meme. This guy is making too much sense. You can tell that he spent his formative years in the Great Lakes State.

"[T]here were a lot of people predicting glorious heights for Rich; mostly the same people who are predicting doom and gloom [for Hoke]. Excuse me if I doubt their prognostication skills." -- M-Wolverine

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June 1st, 2011 at 4:29 PM | jesus fing (Score:1)
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those guys are grown men.

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June 1st, 2011 at 5:01 PM | KILL IT WITH FIRE! (Score:3 Normal)
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KILL IT WITH FIRE!

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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June 1st, 2011 at 5:46 PM | Star Trek? (Score:2 Funny)
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Which Star Trek race is this again?  The Andorians? The Benzites?

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June 1st, 2011 at 3:23 PM | Krenzel is great on the radio (Score:1)
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I've heard him several times, and he never pulls any punches.  He was extremely disturbed by Tressel not suspending either Boone or Worthington for their DUIs.  He was very critical of him for basically setting a precedent that if you're a starter, DUIs don't really matter.

Janeane Garofalo (Film Actors Guild): "As actors it is our responsibility to read the newspaper, and then say what we read on television like it's our opinion"

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June 1st, 2011 at 5:35 PM | I've always sensed that OSU (Score:2)
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I've always sensed that OSU faithful were always a little annoyed that the QB for their NC-winning squad was a Michigander, and my guess is that they'll use this as an excuse to redirect the hate train.  What he said is all true, and I agree with him that kids will start to come clean once the media starts digging deeper into just what memorabilia was found at those tattoo parlors.

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June 1st, 2011 at 5:44 PM | This should get interesting ... (Score:1)
gobluesasquatch
Joined: 12/22/2008
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If Buckeye fans turn on Krenzel, that's just sick! The guy helped lead them to a national title, and while he was mostly a game manager, he did have some pretty big plays that lead them to the national title. The pass against Purdue, and at one point, I think he had as many yards in the NC game as Clarrett did running the football. 

Glad to see some of the former Buckeye players call the situation as it is.

 

Using the term Wildcat to describe a direct snap to anyone other than a QB is like calling any rock band from the early 90s Grunge.

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June 2nd, 2011 at 12:44 PM | He wasn't that highly (Score:1)
jmblue
Joined: 11/07/2008
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He wasn't that highly regarded.  He was basically supposed to be a "filler" recruit in between Bellisari and Justin Zwick.  

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June 1st, 2011 at 8:28 PM | Get away (Score:1)
gobluesasquatch
Joined: 12/22/2008
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Krenzel wasn't really highly recruited out of high school. There was also some guy named Henson on our roster who had Carr promise not to really recruit any studs before or after him. 

Krenzel was initially third team that year, but someone either got injured or quit (I think it was the latter), and then Bellasari decided to pick up a DUI and that gave Craig the starting job against Michigan. 

In the end, John Navarre beat him in Ann Arbor in 2003. 

Using the term Wildcat to describe a direct snap to anyone other than a QB is like calling any rock band from the early 90s Grunge.

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June 2nd, 2011 at 12:31 PM | The "Lloyd's Promise" meme is (Score:2)
Bando Calrissian
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The "Lloyd's Promise" meme is often cited incorrectly.  Lloyd promised Henson he wouldn't recruit another quarterback in his recruiting class, NOT that he wouldn't recruit another quarterback while Henson was around.

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June 2nd, 2011 at 12:46 PM | Carr also promised not to (Score:1)
jmblue
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Carr also promised not to recruit any QBs in the class ahead of Henson's, so there would be no one only one year older than him in the program. 

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