I am not advocating firing RR (yet), and I am not yelling that the sky is falling in. However, everyone that puts their fingers in their ears and yells, "the team is young, we are improving, I WILL ACCEPT NO CTITICISM OF RR!" is not paying attention. I am really getting frustrated by some of the decisions RR and his staff have been making. We are starting young players, so I can accept that they will have growing pain mistakes, but this is not RR or GERG's second year. Denard Robinson is an elite talent running and throwing on fake run-then-pass plays, but is a mediocre (AT BEST) pocket passer. the last two weeks he has asked Robinson to prove to everyone he can drop back and pass. I also like Vincent Smith, but not running up the middle on a fourth and 1 like last week. This week, he watches Hopkins have success up the middle, puts in Smith and runs the same play. Smith gets crushed, fumbles, and the rest is history. I am not blaming Robisnon or Smith, they are both talented guys doing their best. I do blame RR for stubbornly putting them in positions to fail instead of playing guys to their strengths. Add in the decision to punt last week, the fact that our guys apparently don't know that a blocked FG is live, his blowing of Gardner's redshirt to prove a point for two plays, his handling of press conferences and media in general, and the fact that other teams seem to regularly make better second half adjustments than us, and I am starting to feel like we have been outcoached more times than not, If I turn on RR, it is going to be for his coaching mistakes, not for how many times he loses to MSU or OSU or anyone else for that matter. If he is making poor coaching decisions now, how likely is that to change when the players are seniors, or will they just cover them up better?
Fair and balanced complaining about the coaching
A moratorium? Why? People are frustrated and tired of getting our asses kicked by every team even remotely better than us? Some of them have questions or opinions. Not all of them have to carry the same "we're young" and "we'd have signed up for 5-2 before the season started" message.
Regardless of how young we are even my freshman cornerbacks know to not let a WR release inside when there's no safety help. My kicker knows to not kick the ball out of bounds. My interior linemen on PAT and FG know to not get steam rolled on a kick. And I, as a JV high school football coach, know you CAN'T DECLINE A DEAD BALL FOUL.
And do you think burying your head and negging people is the answer?
I think your ignoring some of problems many of the complainers are having.
- Our offense scored 7 points in 3 quarters with our starting QB
- Iowa prepared for DR and ended up with Tate. Tate was the recipient of a somewhat complacent defense.
- Penalties continue to plague us
- We're making elementary mistakes repeatedly
- We were encouraged last week after shooting ourselves in the foot vs. MSU. Yet we shot ourselves in the foot even moreso this game
- We lost AGAIN AT HOME
People are tired and pissed off. 4 conference wins after 2.3 years is the perfect opportunity for some to vent. I'm not saying get rid of RR today, but I'll be damned if I'm just gonna sit and tow the company line.
Lack of perspective? Ok.
.....and your extensive knowledge of the game comes from where?
And that's where my experience trumps your NCAA11 opinion.
4 years HS football
4 years college football
10 years coaching football
Winning is an important measuring stick for progress too. At least as important as whatever encouraging stats we can pull from a game. You both seem to be acknowledging that.
Nothing at all wrong with expecting wins as Michigan fans and being frustrated when it doesn't happen.
Did you honestly expect Michigan to win this game? Iowa will likely be in the top 10 after the new polls are released. They have a fantastic defense and an experienced quarterback. Michigan has neither. If you are frustrated after this game, you need to reevaluate your expectations.
THIS IS MICHIGAN . YOU DON'T LOWER YOUR EXPECTATIONS
Do I expect us to win every game? Nope.
Do I expect us to not have so many mental errors and repetitive mistakes? Hell yes.
Every week there are still a lot of mistakes. I want RR to succeed more than anyone but there comes a time when you have to put emotion aside and look at what is going on. Turnovers, penalties and lack of execution all falls on the coach. The excuse that we don't have enough talent is getting tired and over used. This is Michigan, every year recruiting wise you finish ahead of MSU,Iowa,Wisconsin, Indiana, Northwestern, Minnesota, Purdue, and Illinois . It's been three years and it is time to start beating these teams.
after MSU, IU. UMASS. You and others were wrong each time. This team has a better QB than last year (not the last two games, but still) and a better o-line. Every other area of the team is either worse (defense) or the same (receivers). And in all the fundamentals--assignments, gap responsibility, tackling, avoiding stupid penalties, certain moments of abject confusion on the field--they haven't improved since last year--at all. With a supposedly encouraging and better team this year we lost by greater margins at home to Iowa and MSU than we lost to them last year on the road.
It's not whining, it's objective watching of a team that is in trouble and is not meaningfully improved overall from last year. It is NOT a season that is lost yet (8 wins are still possible) or worthy of a fire RR blast. But to dismiss it as whining is a dickish move and a way to avoid discussing an unpleasant fact. If you don't want to engage in that discussion great--just don't disparage those that do.
Every post you've made in this thread is whining about whiners. You, sir, are a monumental hypocrite.
In every thread that someone has complained about yesterday's game, you have simply replied "Mods please clean this shit up."
Do you have anything substantive to contribute or are you just going to call everybody a whiner because they're criticizing YOUR team? Hey pal, plenty of us here are alumni. You don't have exclusivity to your fandom and we have every right to demand more from our team as you do at defending it.
Congrats. You "demand more". What does that even mean? Do you walk up to Vincent Smith on campus and Demand he stop fumbling? Do you go to class with Broekhuizen and demand that he not kick it out of bounds?
Seriously. I haven't created one of the posts you disparage. but to disparage criticism and negative discussion after two negative games, is not only being a dick, but is actually demonstrating your ignorance of football. Criticism, as long as its not OMG FIRE EVERYONE ARRGGH, is not only legitimate, it is a necessary component of a Michigan football board where its very nature is pro and con discussion of Michigan Football. If you don't recognize that simple fact, just stay out on your lawn and keep yelling at the kids and dogs. Or, and this would be GREAT, go create your own blog where after losses no one gets to say anything other than "we are young. Let's be patient. I am encouraged. UMASS is better than half the teams in the BCS. Iowa is top 15."
Read the title on the board: if it looks repetitive or uninteresting, don't click. If you click, and it says something you disagree with, say so and why. Or, you could skip the board for a few hours. that may save lots of heartburn for you.
Losing is never positive but there were some encouraging signs. Yes, we just lost to two top 15 teams in a row, granted they were at home, and we had some guys dinged up.
The past is the past. The reality is that record-wise, we're exactly where we were last year. Won all four of our non-conf plus Indiana, lost to Iowa and MSU. The reality, completely regardless of what I or any of you think, is that very likely (1) David Brandon isn't going to accept another 5-7 season, particularly if he has an out in RR's contract when the NCAA finally rules (2) the three easiest games left on the schedule are our next three. After our much needed bye week, we're really going to find out what this team is all about. Penn State with an anemic offense led by a true freshman QB and a very banged up defense is beatable. Illinois, despite playing better than most assumed, is a home game, against a freshman QB with an inexperienced offense and is beatable. Purdue, although a road game, wasn't a good game going into the season and then they lost their top three offensive weapon and is beatable. We've talked about measuring sticks. To me, a REALISTIC measuring stick is how we do against the next three teams.
At the outset of the season many talked about 7 or 8 wins needed to show some improvement and beating SOME Big Ten teams. Penn State, Illinois and Purdue are those teams. Iowa and, as hard as it is to admit MSU, along with Wiscy and OSU are the cream of the crop this year. We all know we're young, the issues with the defense and all the redundant issues raised in the postings that Wolverine 318 has been mentioning are simply our current reality. Now its time to heal, get the team in order for two weeks, and then sit down and watch the next three weeks which will likely determine the outcome of the season. The team is ENTIRELY capable of winning all three of these games and being 8-2 going into the Wisconsin game and having written a ticket to a bowl game.
Lets just sit back the next four weeks and see what happens. After Purdue we'll likely know a lot more about where this team really is.
Maybe Michigan will hire you for the next coach... You're a successful jv coach and seem to know more than coach rod... Get your jv staff together and start recruiting jv players and get this team going again... I know jv coaches know a hell of alot more than someone that has been coaching division 1 football for 20 years.
Posters like wolverine318 really lead to the demise of this forum. Wolverine318 is idiotic and makes me sick. Why are so many people so willing to accept mediocrity from what is supposed to be a top tier program? This topic was calling it like it is and poses some 100% accurate and indiputable facts about the current and future states of our football program. wolverine318, you sir have failed. as a die hard Michigan fan, i dont want to be associated with you or other so called Michigan fans who think like you. while you are content with being Northwestern and losing to OSU and MSU, i on the other hand want national championships and to beat our rivals.
Coming from the guy with negative 422 points. I don't know about you all but I'm listening to THIS guy
Delete, expunge, terminate.
I don't think that I agree with a lot of your post (which is fine, you have laid out some good points), but this really mystifies me.
his handling of press conferences and media in general
Is there a specific incident or something to which you're referring that I'm simply forgetting? Personally, I think he does an excellent job with the media, he comes across as a really likeable guy who works well with the reporters and columnists despite the nasty things they say about him
Specifically the way he handled the Dorsey questions, his getting angry at the press conferense this summer, etc. I just feel that he doesn't come across as dominating the press conference as much as I would like him to. I sometimes get teh impression that the media guys walk into the room thinking they are going to be able to get whatever out of him they want.
Why would they bother trying to get him to say things when they can lie with impunity (see hard-hitting investigation of MAJOR violations by the leading Detroit tabloid)?
Still, I agree that more poise on RichRod's part would be pleasant. Hard to come down on him too hard, though, given the way he's been treated by the local press (in contrast to Saint Dantonio) ...
I agree. Shut this bitch down until the work week. Every thread is the exact same.
You just compained about every thread being the same by saying the same thing that was commented two comments before you. Should you be shut down for a week to keep us from listening to you say, "I agree?"
'Shut this bitch down' , is there a song with that title? Because if there isn't, there should be...
Shut it Down by Pitbull has that exact line it in. I'm sure it could be clipped out of there.
New 5000 point min. to post a thread the week after a loss would also help.
Finally, I continue to advocate the "are you serious" button too pop up after "save" is hit.
All the threads from last night and today are making me very tired. Although debate is healthy, most of these just seem like rants.
This is closer to reasonable criticism of the RichRod regime than most posts (not saying much, of course), but:
* "Denard Robinson is an elite talent running and throwing on fake run-then-pass plays, but is a mediocre (AT BEST) pocket passer." That was his seventh game as a starter. In an Iowa sort of universe he'd be a redshirt freshman. What does this have to do with RichRod? What do you propose to do?
* "I also like Vincent Smith, but not running up the middle on a fourth and 1 like last week." Fair enough ... on the surface, I don't get this, either. Anyone care to speculate on RichRod's attachment to this guy (Smith)? Is he the only one who doesn't @#$% up plays and fumble in practice?
* "... fact that our guys apparently don't know that a blocked FG is live ..." Looks bad, yeah, but I think we need more data.
* "... blowing of Gardner's redshirt to prove a point ..." That's one explanation, but it seems somewhat emotional to me. (Not saying it isn't grounded in reality ...) It's hard to project to 2014, isn't it? If Gardner proves to be All-World (or whatever), he'll leave before 2014. This also assumes that Michigan will fail to recruit any reasonable quarterbacks in '11/'12. Hasn't been a problem yet ...
* "... handling of press conferences and media in general ..." What are your complaints? This is pretty vague.
* "... fact that other teams seem to regularly make better second half adjustments than us ..." Examples, please? I'm open to the general idea.
* "... I am starting to feel like we have been outcoached more times than not ..." Sorry, but this isn't MLive. FEELING is no good here. Examples, please. As with the prior point, I'm open to the idea.
And, this is more of a lighthearted, half sarcastic thing. And yes, its about his beloved Lion King quote.
He keeps on quoting the Lion King - about "it doesn't matter, its in the past."
Please everybody, do yourself a favor, and watch this youtube video:
For the love of God, every two year old should know that scene is about learning from the past. If he wants to quote Lion King, good for him. But at least catch the deeper message rather than taking it at face value!
So the next time a member of the media draws a comparison from last year to this year, and asks RichRod how the team can learn from last year...you understand why I'll be in the corner of a room somewhere, beating my head against a wall.
Are you freaking kidding? Do you have any idea how idiotic that statement is? Do you have the slightest recollection of Bo Schembechler at press conferences? Do you know that Bo physically shoved a Michigan Daily reporter in 1979? Do you remember Lloyd Carr at press conferences angrily calling out reporters present in the room? Do you remember LC being a dick to on-field sideline reporters, and having to apologize for his comments afterwards?
If you want to criticize the product on the field, have at it—there's plenty to criticize. But there is not a single press conference that RR has had since he's been here during which he has exhibited behavior that is remotely out-of-line or untoward. If you think that merely "getting angry" at a presser is somehow beneath the historical standards of Michigan coaches, you're just plain ignorant.
for the memories...I loved every one of Lloyd's interactions (non-statements, obfuscation, irritability and overall hostility) involving any sideline reporter. Those moments truly added to the fan experience on tv in my younger days.
Here's his one happy moment.
Lloyd was certainly a classy individual. Michigan has always had intelligent players as well. I have not seen that in the last three years. It reflects so poorly on the program when our coach looks out of control and starts going off on everyone on the sideline. I am not yet saying fire RR but when do we demand wins over decent Big 10 teams?
We have five Big Ten teams left to play this season, ranging from not very good to decent to pretty damn good. Don't you think those data points are at all relevant before "demanding" more wins?
Anybody who thinks Lloyd Carr dumped on Rich Rod's tenure can watch this video and shove it.
Didn't Lloyd one time say to a sideline reporter "Well that's a stupid question"?
against one of the top defenses in the country. Outgained Iowa by 100 yds in the second half with our back-up QB. Yet you claim RR is getting 'out-coached'? Having two kick-offs go out of bounds is simply bad luck. Refelcts nothing on the coaching. The defense is still extremely young and still making mental mistakes. This will improve and these games will turn into wins.
I agree with your points, save for one. I don't think kicking the ball out of bounds is "bad luck". It is poor execution from a walk-on kicker who should be sitting behind the scholarship kicker except the scholarship kicker can't win the job. I don't put much weight into stats, but they do help salve the soul after an ugly loss.
We lost...to a very good team.
This season isn't over 8-4 is still obtainable.
you are totally forgetting the "doesn't dominate the press conference" comment.
Please save us from ourselves until Tuesday.
I can't handle all the whinning, bitching and complaining...See you during the work week when the informative threads reappear.
I agree that the coaching has left some things to be desired, but you go too far. I still think that overall RR is a good decision maker. Don't tell me that you make 100% correct decision bc nobody does. The key is to make more good decisions than bad decisions and I think RR is far on the good decision side of things.
One thing I will say is that the special teams is atrocious and that is on RR. It might be time to get a coach for that part of the game bc we wont be able to pull through in winnable upsets anytime soon when it cant make field goals and gives up 150 yards of field position.
This is year three under RR and the defense is getting worse. I know the defense is young but this is the third year and all UM can come up with in the secondary is a bunch of receivers turned DB and a walk on. UM could finish at the bottom of the Big Ten again if something doens't change. I don't see much acccountability from the staff. Why is the DB coach still with this team? He has done nothing in three years.
Lets explore our potential 2010 CBs,, (my opinion of depth chart)
D. Warren #1 CB -- Whether or not he was "always a 3 and done CB" per the meme - he would have been by far the best CB on this team. We think it was a mistake to go pro but you can't blame him for thinking prior to 2010 that even with him this team would not compete for a B10 title. (pre-Denardening obviously) - thus the incentive to "get paid" now versus another year of hard work, school etc on a potentially "OK" team.
Boo Boo #2 CB -- I am not sure if he truly would have been the #2 CB for anything but experience - but he would have been at least on par with Floyd IMO. Shame to see how his life has spiralled down since he left UofM. (Personally never liked his Miami-ish swagger on the field - even after plays he was beaten but the receiver dropped the ball)
T Woolfolk #3 CB -- ideally with enough depth he moves to take the C. Gordon spot - out with injury for the year,
JT Floyd #4 CB -- We "hated" him last year opposite Warren - (remember last year?)
#5 - #7 CB Take you pick D.Dorsey (worth taking a failed 'flyer' academically. ime), A. Witty (essentially a throw-in to secure Denard that turned out might actually be a good player - hasn't cracked the starting lineup at Cinci yet I don't think) J.T.Turner -( some kids just flame out at the next level - lack of discipline away from home, having to work very hard for the first time to compete for PT, or a failure by the coaches)
#8 James Rogers - Heck of a dedicated guy to this program - just ability challenged
#9 - #11 Insert other frosh CBs here.
I agree the secondary play has to improve for us to compete in the B10. However if we had just 2 of the top 5 above playing this year things would be better. If we have 2 PLUS T-Wolf moved to safety, we would be confined to bitching about linebacker play this year and MIGHT have 1 more win at this time.
I couldn't disagree more with the OP's argument(s). The coaches put players in the right position to succeed. We have young players who make mental mistakes. Do you not recognize that the team is young and thats why they continue to make mistakes? How is this putting our fingers in our ears and ignoring things? We are just realistic as to why this team is not all that great yet. Crazy fans like you who blame everything on the coaches are just expecting too much.
Why do you place the blame on the coaches? Your examples of coaching failures are really not coaching errors at all. Running Vincent Smith on a short yardage situation is an example of a coaching error in your mind? Hopkins had run several plays before that, perhaps he was tired on the third down. Vincent Smith has picked up a few first downs on short yardage plays. If you don't agree with it that's one thing but it's not an error.
Robinson had nearly 100 yards rushing in the first half, how is it that you are claiming Rich Rod tried to prove he could use him as a drop back passer? Iowa barely ever gives up 100 yards rushing in one game let alone one half. Maybe you weren't paying attention at all to what really was going on or maybe you are looking for reasons to complain about the coaches rather than look at the facts.
The man can coach, he has turned this into an offensive machine. We had 500 yards against one of the better defenses every year in the Big Ten. The reason we do well on offense is because we have more depth and experience. This is simply a fact. Why must it be on the coaches when young players commit turnovers or penalties. Young players do this consistently on any team with any coach. It just so happens we have more young players playing than most teams and errors are common when there is so few players with game experience.
I do not see teams making better second half adjustments than Rich Rod. Name some examples. Iowa did not outplay Michigan in the second half. Michigan easily won the second half of that football game and it wasn't even close really. A few missed tackles and turnovers caused the loss. I do not blame that on the coaches and no one who knows anything about football would. Coaches can teach them to make smart decisions but players have to step up and make smart decisions in the games. I see a very disciplined team on the field so I see blaming the coaches as lunacy.
If we had an undisciplined team then I could see why some people would start pointing to coaching but Rich Rod has consistently shown that the players respect his teaching and they play about as poised as you can expect for kids who have such little game experience. Did you expect Denard to just go through the entire year without turnovers? Most of the interceptions thrown were not being put in bad positions by the coaches. Robinson had two sure touchdowns against MSU that were set up by proper playcalling, he simply missed the throws. It's on the players, don't kid yourself!
Look - I support Rich Rodriguez, I support giving him his due time, and I cheered like hell yesterday in the stands to try give the defense all the help I could muster.
But "If we had an undisciplined team?" Does Taylor Lewan ring a bell? The guy jumped early multiple times, took a 15 yard penalty that killed our team's early momentum, and innocent or not - also took a 15 yard penalty at Indiana that almost cost us dearly.
I consider running off the field after a blocked field goal as Iowa is returning the ball down the sideline a heavy blend of 'undisciplined' and well, stupidity.
I consider unforced interceptions where Denard just throws up an airball undisciplined.
I consider biting time and time again on a simple counter run undisciplined.
There are many things that I can say that support Rodriguez. We can discuss his ability to get playmakers in space. We can discuss his ability to scheme around opposing defenders. We can discuss how much he cares about the program, as I am convinced he does. I love him and I think he can take us to new heights - but his teams have been undisciplined for three straight years. Discipline is not something RichRod can hang his cap on.
Go Blue - and I didn't neg you. I don't take offense to opposing opinions when they are supported with rationale.
Rich Rod flat out runs a disciplined team. Unfortunately for him that discipline will not pay off until the kids start maturing. Players need to grow through experience not just because a coach teaches them something correctly. Taylor Lewan is a redshirt freshman. Are you that surprised to see him making mental errors in the course of a game? I am not at all surprised. How can you blame a coach on the mental mistakes of redshirt freshman and sophomores. Denard Robinson and Taylor Lewan can't have Rodriguez come onto the field and help them make split second decisions. If you watch Rich Rod on the sidelines he gets VERY demonstrative on the sidelines when they make mental errors. Meaning he has gone over these types of things plenty in practice and yet young players still make mistakes. I'm sure the coaches are more frustrated than any of us could even imagine.
John Wooden could wake up in the prime of his career and lead these kids and they would still make mental errors. It's just how young players perform. Through experience comes more level headed decisions during game situations. I believe these kids are being taught correctly and thats all you can ask of a coaching staff. The problem is that you have to work with what you have. Rich Rod can't speed up time and turn these freshman and sophomores into juniors and seniors overnight.
The discipline instilled by Rodriguez and the staff is paying off. I've actually been pleasantly surprised with the lack of penalties this year considering the youth of the team.We are actually in the top 20 in fewest penalties in all of Division 1a football. That's pretty amazing to me considering the youth and I think that's a testament to what Rodriguez can do for a team even with as much youth as we have.
I think the coaches continue to put players in position to succeed. However, I do blame RR for Tate's second INT. Late in the game, and Tate had just been sacked, and you're about to face a 3rd and 19. You have to call a timeout there and set up two plays. The 3rd down play needs to either make 4th down manageable or pick up the first down. At that point in the game, you have a true sophomore QB that is seeing action in his SECOND game. Call a timeout, stop the clock and make sure everyone is on the same page. That is my only gripe. I'd also like to say that I loved seeing Demens out there. Khoury also played a great game in a tough situation. The coaches prepared him well.
This is exactly my point. There are a few honest arguments against my point and severeal idiots who just say,"you're whining, you're whining, RR is infallible and we will be top 25 next year!". What is the scoring differential in the second half of out losses in the last two years? That is where coaching adjustments come in. And yes, carr and bo could gét angry in press conferences. And they always seemed like they did exactly what they wanted to. RR never seems comfortable and confident in his reactions. It bothers me. Root for your team and your coach, I can respect that, but when someone brings up actual issues and you just dismiss it as idiots whining about things they don't understand it makes you a jackass.
I have opinions on what should be done at Michigan; everybody does. Right now, I think Forcier and Denard should both play in every game. Others think RR should do this, that, etc. But the major difference between my opinion and those who whine is that I am not under the illusion that I could walk into the Big House and coach that football team.
From the tone of so many of the anti-RR whiners over the last few years, it's as if many of them seem to think they could do a better job than RR, just by fixing some "obvious" problems. Sadly, it doesn't work that way. When you get a coach, you get his entire philosophy. In other words, you have to be "all in,"
It's easy to say, "well, Saban does this," or "Urban Meyer does that," or " why can't they run trick plays like Chris Peterson," or "why can't they coach defense like [fill in the blank], but nobody does all of those things. Everyone has their own system, and all systems have their flaws.
I think it's great that we all have our opinions. I also think that we, and I am not excluding myself from the word, can take our own opinions a little too seriously sometimes.
There is a lot of season left. I am guessing that my distaste for Sparty caused me to underrate MSU a bit. Iowa was projected to be a top ten team by many, also. I see no shame in losing to either team, and think that PSU, Illinois, and Purdue are a definite level below those teams. I still think beating all three is possible.
So, I'm not giving up on this season yet. And don't expect me to visit any "fire RR" websites anytime in the next two years.
OP, you state: the last two weeks he has asked Robinson to prove to everyone he can drop back and pass.
This analysis is beyond ridiculous. Perhaps the nature of the defensive fronts/coverages of the Little Brother and Iowa have had something to do with Denard's reads. But no, apparently RichRod has asked him to prove to everyone he can drop back and pass?
But it bears repeating: this team is snakebit. Look at the yards gained. We shredded what is arguably the best D is the B10. BUT, every time we got into scoring position, like last week, we turned the ball over, or were penalized on a key down and stopped the drive.
Sure, I agree that some of the coaches' calls were maddening, such as the decision to punt right before the half, but if the team was looking like they wouldn't get it done on 4th down, the wiser choice was to get off the field and into the locker room. Sometimes, you just need to re-group.
Yesterday, U-M couldn't buy a break. It's been that way for two weeks. Hopefully, their luck will turn around. The bye week is welcome.
I couldn't believe the number of people complaining about him punting before the half on fourth and four. It was the right call. If they are stopped, Iowa would of had the ball at the 50 yard line with 45 seconds and a chance to go up 28-7. Imagine the whining if that would have happened.
it's pretty clear you've already made up your mind about RR, which is fine, you're entitled. But it's pretty disengenuous to claim otherwise.
Not true. As of now I don't want to see him fired. I just think he has not been doing a great job and I would like to see him get his shit together. And I am not claiming to be able to do the job better than RR, just hoping that he can do the job better than he has.
OP: I have to admit that although I often disagree with you, most of this post is pretty accurate. Rodriguez has made several questionable coaching decisions/errors just in the past couple weeks.
I actually think he's done a pretty good job in the media, though. I mean, he's made a couple poor statements, but what coach is perfect in that area? Even stodgy, classy Lloyd Carr had his slip-ups (for example, "Why would you ask such a stupid question?").
Fair enough. I might be being a little picky on that issue. I should also appreciate that he is probably rightfully a little defensive based on the treatment he has received.
Youth is the standard reason cited for this defensive down turn. I think its often overlooked that GERG has senior linbackers that he has personally been responsable for. He has also coached them for the last two years and they are just as bad as the young secondary. These are coachable problems too. Poor tackling, making bad reads, finding yourself out of position. There is alot of youth in the secondary and that does account for alot of the problem. However, pinning it all on that and then being unwilling to listen to anything else isnt the answer. In fairness, calling for RRs head every loss isnt the answer either.
First off, I have been a pretty avid Rich Rod supporter from the beginning. I'm also high on Denard. But the Iowa game revealed coaching weaknesses that deserve criticism.
First off, Denard standing in the pocket is not the best way to use him. Roll him out because that's where his passing is best. Denard does not have enough in his passing game to become a pocket passer yet. He may well improve in the off season, as this is only his first year starting. But for now, the roll outs are the best option because even if nothing's there Denard can run. The fact that Denard is in the pocket is because Rich Rod feels the offense has to be perfect for us to win games. It's time to temper expectations and just accept what you can do on offense, which is a lot, and just see what happens on defense and special teams. No one expects an undefeated season.
Second, running Vincent Smith, who is 5'6", 180 lbs. up the middle against 300 pounders should never happen. Against smaller lines, you might get those running lanes, but against a line like Iowa's you have to use Hopkins, especially with Molk out. I give the coaching staff credit for seeing how Hopkins can help them, but I fault them for running Smith up the middle. Of all the plays on offense, that was the least effective and it stalled drives. Now that Hopkins has shown us he can play, perhaps he should be used more as a power back like Minor and Smith can run to the outside or even be a slot receiver (he was effective with that yesterday).
Third, sticking with Ezeh for so long when Demens was at least somewhat competant against the run, though not against the pass, is a coaching error. If Rich Rod lets Robinson run the defense, he should have intervened sooner. Demens was pretty solid against the run. Iowa had 137 yards rushing, but that was on 36 attempts, for a 3.8 yards per attempt average. Not exactly dominant, but fairly respectable against a good rushing team. If Demens continues to be solid against the run, he would be a huge upgrade over Ezeh.
Fourth, the penalties are the coach's responsibility. Fundamentally sound teams like Iowa do not commit many penalties. The offense is solid, but they have not been clean in their execution the last two games, and that needs to be resolved during the off week.
Fifth, the kicking game is an absolute disaster and puts even more pressure on the offense. I can't imagine how Gibbons is any worse than Broekhuizen, but blocked kicks and kicking the ball out of bounds on the kickoff twice is just disconcerting. If low level non-BCS teams can manage decent kicking stats, I cannot see why we can't do the same. Again, the coaches failed because the players committed unforced, fundamental errors.
There is a lot that needs to be cleaned up. Most of these errors, however, can be corrected in a short amount of time. The next three games are critical. Rich Rod must prove his ability to field a fundamentally sound team. I am confident that he will because he has the track record to prove it. And maybe with the way OSU played we might have a chance against them. But I don't think any of us can withstand another meltdown.
You lost me at "fair and balanced" which are code words for abscence of fairness and balance.
Things suck, but now is the time to support your fellow Michigan fans cuz you know the Sparty non-sense is going to accrue exponentially.
I am not blaming Robisnon or Smith, they are both talented guys doing their best. I do blame RR for stubbornly putting them in positions to fail instead of playing guys to their strengths.
So you don't blame the player that made the mistake? It must be the coaches fault that a running back didn't hold on to the football and the quarterback didn't make the correct read and threw an interception.
Completely out of context. In this case (at least how he sees it), it is RR's fault for Smith fumbling because he put him at a disadvantage before he even touched the ball by running him up against a talented and big D-line and, similarly, by making Denard throw in the pocket. I would add that Denard throwing in the pocket is acceptable as long as there has been some misdirection before and an emphasis on him checking down if necessary.
This is not only ridiculous, but just plain stupid. How on earth can you blame RichRod for a Smith fumble? He is a fucking running back. Their job is to run the ball without fumbling it, whether they get tackled by a defensive lineman or someone in the secondary. RichRod put him at the same advantage every single running back gets.
Same goes for Robinson. He is a fucking QB. Their job is to not throw interceptions. He is put into the exact same position to complete passes as Tate. If your argument is that RichRod shouldn't be starting him at QB, I think you might want to reconsider that.
So, if I am a coach who has an option of 240 pound hopkins of 160 pound smith to run the ball up the middle on fourth and 1 (or just up the middle in the case of the fumble) and I choose to run the 160 pound back, it is not fair to criticise me if the running back fails? You are right, I guess I am an idiot.
Vincent Smith has been running the ball up the middle all year. What is the difference in this case? If you asked Vincent I'm sure he won't say it was RR fault for giving him the ball up the middle against the big bad Iowa defense.
RR is the one at practice and knows what his players can do. At this point I am sure he trusts Vincent Smith more than Hopkins when it comes to ball security and unfortunately Vincent didn't make the play. Maybe you should rip the O-line for not blocking the guy. Poor execution and Iowa made a better play.