I think you mean "wipe." It
I had forgotten all of that
I no longer feel at all bad for what Jalen and/or Juwan did.
It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra
Yeah, the only whipping occurred
At Indiana games with Bobby Knight.
And yes, your memory of the happenings at the game is exactly how I recall it too.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
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I believe it was Juwan and I don't know if video exists of that.
Racism in the 1990s in
Racism in the 1990s in Michigan? Nowhere but East Lansing.
Michigan: 903–315–36 (Best in NCAA)
vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU: 68-32-5
vs B1G: 522-197-24
vs SEC: 20-8-1
vs PAC 12: 48-24-1
vs Big 12: 10-5-1<
Kind of a glass house situation
The 30 for 30 episode showed some of the letters that were sent by Michigan alum/fans.
Janeane Garofalo (Film Actors Guild): "As actors it is our responsibility to read the newspaper, and then say what we read on television like it's our opinion"
Beside the point
My point is not that MSU is more racist than Michigan, or was at that time, but just that on that particular night, the MSU crowd did everything it could to get under their skin, saying/doing things that are usually beyond the pale. And our players (a few, anyway) did not take the high road in response. The whole affair was ugly.
Alleged UM
alums and fans. Anyone can write a letter claiming to be an alum or fan.
...confidence is the stain they can't wipe off...
Wouldn't be too hard to
Wouldn't be too hard to verify. If memory serves, the film didn't blur out their names, and alumni directories exist. Seems to me someone who takes the time to write a letter like that and puts multiple degree years after their name probably isn't making it up.
Your memory does not serve.
The second time watching The Fab Five doc, I was curious as to whether or not names were shown. They were not. Only degree and class were shown. Names were blurred.
"Yep"
The game was broadcast on
The game was broadcast on local Fox affiliates. Some guy behind the scorer's table, where the TV announcers were sitting, could clearly be heard yelling "N*g***s!!" repeatedly. My copy of Mitch Albom's book was lost a long time ago, but seems like he described this incident, as well.
It's okay though, that guy
It's okay though, that guy yelling racial slurs at UM's black players had a black friend from high school, so he's not a racist.
Also, I wonder if MSU's black players looked over at him, gave him a thumbs up and said, "You are right, sir, they are different than us, so please, continue..."
Unless, of course, he was just a pure racist and liked going to any basketball game to specifically antagonize all black players no matter the team. Does anyone remember if he was wearing a Larry Bird, Pistol Pete, or Alabama jersey at the game?
Class of '97: 4 Years -- 4 Four-loss seasons
Must've been an Alabama
Must've been an Alabama jersey with the name on the back as "Lynyrd Skynyrd."
Not sure if serious... The
Not sure if serious... The Fab 5 documentary described UM's team as somewhat emblematic of a culture that was different from college athletes at the time. The team was seen as five cocky, "hip-hop" athletes who became a lightning rod for a lot of ugly, racist comments. And it appears some of these stereotypes were on display in EL that night, unfortunately. They were also displayed in a much more subtle fashion by the mass media, but that's a whole other can of worms.
Not serious. And my extreme
Not serious. And my extreme examples of excuses for such behavior are more of a comment on the faulted justification of people to use racism in certain situations... sounds like Breslin was full of fans that took the "us versus them" mentality to the extreme.
And I saw the documentary and thought the race element was very interesting. That went right over my head when I was a high schooler in s'west Michigan in the early '90s.
Class of '97: 4 Years -- 4 Four-loss seasons
Nah, I'm sure he had a Chris
Nah, I'm sure he had a Chris Rock (YTCR) comedy album, and thusly was schooled on the difference between black people, and n****rs.
never heard about this
i'd love to see video
RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.
Dont want to ruin the surprise
But its rumored that this year Zack Novak is going to tear that ugly S out of the floor with his bloody bare hands, sand the wood down and use it in his bathroom...
His number one bathroom?
His number one bathroom?
Yeah did anyone catch it on a
Yeah did anyone catch it on a cell phone camera?
Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.
Gordon
Gordon, is that you??
"You Can't Beat Somebody With Nobody " - Theodore Roosevelt
In the early 1990s?
Not sure if serious?
Dude!
Come on!
Racism in the 1990s
I was at Michigan at that time, and I can tell you, virtually every campus that the Fab Five went to got comments like that. East Lansing was just the worst.
The Dukies were especially bad as well.
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I was given a couple dozen
I was given a couple dozen Fab Five games last year by a friend and Iooking through them, I have the 92 game at Breslin and the 94 games at Breslin and Crisler. But I don't see either the home and way games from 93, all of which were wins. Despite this, I'm not even sure if Jalen's little response was caught on tape.
Go Blue! Always!
WH! I posted a comment on
WH! I posted a comment on your youtube about a game tape that I remember you saying you have.
Great video
I forgot how jaw-dropping Webber's talent was, and how historically ugly those warm-ups were. Great game from Pelinka.
Check out the Spartan fan at
Check out the Spartan fan at 21:02. Stay classy, East Lansing...
It's always the guy that
It's always the guy that retaliates that gets the flag.
I heard Lebron James made a
I heard Lebron James made a bunch of threats so the tape couldn't get out
So MSU fans hollered racist
So MSU fans hollered racist slurs at Michigan players back in '93? What's changed?
Hail to the Victors!
I think you mean "wipe." It was the 1993 game at Breslin. I don't think it was caught on film (it was after the game ended). They were out of line, obviously, but that was a nasty, nasty crowd they played before. There were fans chanting racist things and holding up banners saying things like "JUWAN, I'M PREGNANT" and so forth. It was just an ugly scene all around.