Hill killed us. Couldn't do anything to stop him on the baseline.
good luck with that
Hill killed us. Couldn't do anything to stop him on the baseline.
Just great stuff. Very candid (as much as you can be on ESPN) and truly a revolutionary squad.
If you guys want to know pain, I was born the day we lost the NC vs. Duke. That was the first sporting event I ever watched.
I think everyone is going to be in extreme pain before the next commercial break...
Is that I'm fucking old.
Any chance there is some high schoolers watching this right now who want to come to Michigan and emulate their heroes?
Me, but I'm a slow, very unathletic, 6'1" white boy who can't shoot.
Webber was not happy after that game...
Jalen is a UM hero, but after this doc, I think he should be a UM legend of the highest order - top five of any sport. That's just me, but I love what this movie says about him and UM.
all these people talking about never seeing these guys play are making me feel old. It wasn't that long ago!
I know, right? I don't want to believe that I am probably in the older percentage of people on this blog.
I was a frosh the same year as the fabbers. What a great time it was!
"We Can Play" T-Shirt. :-)
That royalties graph is obscene.
A little of that had to of come from Desmond winning the Heisman that year. Not as much as the Fab Five, but a little.
Can we get it on the players this weekend?
I would explode in my pants if they came out in those warmups. Daaaaaaaaaang.
Wow, the Fab 5 didn't get shit from merchandising. That's 10 mill. 10 mil!
Wow. Just wow.
Nobody "exploited" any of these guys. Spare me.
And if i didn't hate bill walton before he's sealed the deal...
Ahhhhhh fuck you Bill Walton
Go fuck yourself
And his hypocritical vendetta. He probably got more money than Webber.
And nobody touched them in the Pac 10. I think that's what Walton is talking about. The UCLA run of success.
Had ten times the players on the take ad Michigan ever had. They had their own Ed Martin. They just act all holier than thou over it rather than regretful. And Walton was more full of it than any of them.
The Fab Five were a great team; I am not doubting that (and maybe Walton was); but the Fab Five Michigan teams never won a Big Ten title, or a National Championship.
I know those stories about UCLA, too. Bill Walton would be on thin ice if he had been on Michigan about that.
For their style of play, for not doing it like Wooden did...when he knew they were more alike than different. Walton was more low character than any of them in school...he was just a hippie pothead.
Walton didn't rip on Webber for taking money or smoking pot. (I suspect that Chris Webber smoked more pot than Walton, btw.) Walton, in this film, was assuredly not talking about Webber getting any under-the-table money, either.
Walton's film clip was from the time, when Michigan had been good in the Big Ten, but hadn't blown anybody away.
I personally think that the Fab Five proved Walton wrong. But his statement in the film had some poignancy. We had a hell of a lot of tough games and our share of losses in the Big Ten. I was there, and I saw them. I saw how the team played.
He was aware of everything everyone was saying about the Fab Five at the time, you seem woefully ignorant of all the trash Walton would talk about Michigan and the way they played the game at the time. He was brutal. And clip aside, it was often on not doing it the right/read Wooden, way.
Bill Walton was, at the time, making a living off of being a basketball commentator, and his schtick was to say provocative things. He was the Jay Bilas/Charles Barkley/Digger Phelps of that time. They paid him to stir things up on broadcasts. To be edgy.
You really think that Walton, in saying that a team that never won a conference, tournament, or national championship was "overrated," is somehow more offensive than current-day commentator Jalen Rose, saying that the black players on Duke were "Uncle Toms"?
“one of the most overrated and underachieving teams of all time…who epitomize a lot of what’s wrong with a lot of basketball players.”
Tell me that's just about them not "winning enough". And not completely hypocritical considering what kind of program he was at, and the type of player he was and played with. And not everyone agreed with it.
Might Walton have been right? Were they just a bunch of overhyped losers? If you ever ask Vitale that question, be ready to duck.
“It is absolutely absurd for people to criticize the Fab Five as underachievers or failures because they didn’t win a title,” Vitale says. “College ball is not the NBA. It’s one game and there’s a lot of luck involved. Many great teams don’t win titles, but we unfortunately live in a world where if you don’t cut down the nets, you didn’t achieve anything. That’s a ridiculous perspective.”
And no team proved that point more than the Fab Five.
Doesn't make Vitale any more right. Just another opinion. Any more than justifying bad behavior with other bad behavior. But the idea that Walton wasn't throwing bombs at the way the Fab Five acted and played, not just what they accomplished, in the days before media was all online at a click is just faulty memory. He trashed them every chance he got. And considering all he did was win more in a REAL pay for players regime, it makes him an ass.
Seriously. Wooden's a great guy, but how does he instantly go from mediocre to pulling in the best recruits in the country? Something was extremely dirty there in Westwood.
UCLA got to play almost every tourney on their home court and they had their own bag handler just like Ed Martin. His name was Sam Gilbert. NCAA has been hypocritical for a long time. Walton got paid just like the Fab Five and he knows it.
Edit: Beaten by the boss.
Google "Sam Gilbert UCLA" and you'll get all you ever needed to know about the dirty underside of the Wooden UCLA program.
I'd almost want to see the RCMB's reaction to this, but hell no.
I had the t-shirt and the cards. and the socks and shoes.
I still have those cards.
I'm so glad Jalen shut Illinois up in that game. Damn.
I feel bad for Jalen, but the "Just Say No" chant was hilarious.
Not a whole lot different than the Maize Rage chanting "No means No" at Appling last Saturday. Funny stuff
Did I miss something on that graph? Didn't it say post-1992 royalties were 10.2 M? Did that mean just 1992-3 or the next few years?
If it only meant 92-93, then jesus, that is ridiculous.
Not entirely sure which 2 years.
Glad to see Jalen bitch slap Illinois! What a trip down memory lane this is! Now, let's smack those bitch as Blue Devils in the mouth in honor of the Fab 5. Go Blue!!
I don't want to watch
maybe there's a chance that they'll pull this game out this time....
And they didn't mention Chaney sent his Temple thugs shouting "break their legs" because he was so pissed getting his ass kicked by us 2 years in a row.
Also passed over the exciting game in Hawaii where we buzzer beat NC...