Accused of home invasion in the second degree (no one home).
http://14adistrictcourt.org/cases/docket/PEX.HTM
Hearing date is November 16th.
[ED:BISB: Held pending confirmation]
[ED:BISB: Okay, so apparently this is a thing]
FFFFUUUUU
Wow, you either went digging
Wow, you either went digging real deep or you're affiliated with the courts....
Or Hoke just addressed this
Or Hoke just addressed this in his presser.
I hope to be like dang for large sections of the season.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
Some clarification (per a
Some clarification (per a premium board):
Sounds like it was more of a misunderstanding involving a roommate. Something was taken and thought to be of common use but wasn't and was returned when roommate inquired about it. But police had been called and charges were filed. Doesn't exactly sound serious but obvious caveat of waiting to see what happens.
As for why he hasn't been playing-this isn't why. He has had a concussion for several weeks now. M staff are supposedly planning to seek a medical redshirt for him.
Probably a little more serious than that
Something tells me this wasn't a dispute over the pan you use to cook your ramen noodles.
Apparently someone posted Ron Zook's offensive playbook online
That was my initial reaction
That was my initial reaction too. Charges don't really seem to gel with story.
Just relaying what insiders said about it before board completely freaked out as we tend to do. They made it sound like not much, but charges carry some weight. Who knows what truth is right now? No point in speculating at this point.
Possibly
But it may not matter. Whether we're talking about a borrowed stapler, a borrowed PS3 or a borrowed yacht, if MRob reasonably believed he was permitted to use the object, it isn't larceny, and therefore it isn't 2nd degree home invasion.
In other words, we need more facts to know for sure.
Cleanse your brain
Stop spewing out BAR/BRI information. You brought back bad memories and made me throw up in my mouth a little bit. Knock it off.
Disgruntled former moderator. I got a lot of problems with you people!
I can't help it
That's the way!
That's the way you IRAC! That's the way you IRAC!
Disgruntled former moderator. I got a lot of problems with you people!
Affirmative Defense
That my friend, would be an affirmative defense. But who wants to put those things forward? No one. They just take up time and money that's why 99% of cases don't go to trial. If the prosecutor believes the story, justice is spelled P-L-E-A-D-E-A-L.
Disagree, and Agree
The prosecution is required to prove all elements of the offense, including mens rea. As such, a lack of intent to commit larceny would not be an affirmative defense here.
That said, he really wouldn't want to take this to trial. His better hope is that the prosecutor believes his take and drops (or reduces) the charges.
I stand corrected
You are probably right. Still gotta make a jury believe it though. Plea deal is still on the horizon I bet.
Medical Redshirt
"M staff are supposedly planning to seek a medical redshirt for him"
According to the stats, he has played in 5 games. That would make him ineligible for a medical hardship waiver.
There's an article out already...
Detroit News says he's got a preliminary hearing set for Wednesday.
"I don't think we're rebuilding, period. We're Michigan."
--Brady Hoke
Yeah, I'd say it's pretty
Yeah, I'd say it's pretty much been confirmed. That sucks big time.
jinxing like this is a capital offense
right?
RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.
Right
Right
Michigan Arrogance ... Something to be proud of.
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blake mutha f$&king countess don't play safety brah
That is true, but Blake
That is true, but Blake Countess is the reason Troy Woolfolk could move to safety.
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New nickname? Yes.
already taken by
Jordan MF Kovacs earlier in the year (but rarely applied).
"I promise you we would have walked to the University of Michigan." - Brady Hoke
Well
Depends on if you're talking about Countess or 'Prison Abs' Robinson.... yeesh
Prison Abs
Once again, Marvin Robinson is not 'Prison Abs'. Thomas Gordon is 'Prison Abs'.
Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through
Oh, so now we are taunting
Oh, so now we are taunting the Angry Michigan Safety (and DB) Hating God? Not a good idea, not a good f$&king idea!
"Nobody cares what you think!"
Sounds like the kind of thing
that should just be settled out of court. Nothing to see here. (my daughter has jury duty in Washtenaw this week, but I don't think preliminary hearings have juries)
"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans! Now go out there and make it happen!"
- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22 OSU 0)
You're right. A preliminary
You're right. A preliminary hearing does not normally have a sitting jury.
This will likely be settled once the county attorney and Marvin's attorney meet and discuss the evidence / surrounding circumstances.
This sounds like some serious
This sounds like some serious Judge Judy type of dispute.
I've decided to lay off the food for a while, and go on the booze.
Richard L Perteet is SCREWED
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Uttering & Publishing?? Oh man, that's not coming off his record anytime soon...
(I Googled this apparently it's punishable by up to 14 years in prison. Moral of the story: don't utter and publish.)
Ann Arbor: now the permanent home of the Little Brown Jug
67-22-3 all-time
Uttering and publishing
Uttering and publishing generally involves attempting to use stolen checks.
I hope to be like dang for large sections of the season.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
It involves any sort of
It involves any sort of forgery with regard to legal documents or contracts, technically. But unless the roommate had land deeds sitting around his apartment, yeah, it's probably checks.
"Here we are at Ohio Stadium, in front of 10,000 alumni and 74,000 truck drivers." - Bob Ufer
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If I remember correctly uttering and publishing is either writing bad checks or stealing someone's checkbook and then writing checks in their name.
Despite what the other guy calls himself, my name actually is Magnus.
You think THAT's bad?
http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-750-532
Any man who shall seduce and debauch any unmarried woman shall be guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment in the state prison not more than 5 years or by fine of not more than 2,500 dollars.
Debauchry is only 2.5k?
Debauchry is only 2.5k? Hmmmm....
(No subject)
USING GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF CAPS LOCK SINCE APRIL 2011
Watch out spouses!
WOW, does that mean you can seduce and debauch any married woman without recourse?!?
(Law works in mysterious ways.)
Nope
http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-750-30
Any person who shall commit adultery shall be guilty of a felony; and when the crime is committed between a married woman and a man who is unmarried, the man shall be guilty of adultery, and liable to the same punishment.
So are you saying
That if i liked it, then I should've put a ring on it?
Legally speaking of course.
USING GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF CAPS LOCK SINCE APRIL 2011
Still cheaper than marrying
Still cheaper than marrying her
Seducing And Debauching
Do they take Diner's Club?
"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."
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If I recall from my lawyering
If I recall from my lawyering days, in Michigan writing a bad check is uttering and publishing.
FYI, for those who are
FYI, for those who are interested, here is a definition of 2nd degree home invasion (per onecle, re-formatted for clarity):
A person is guilty of 2nd degree home invasion if...
We'll see. The charge, if
We'll see. The charge suggest something greater than a penny-ante issue between roommates. So, unless or until the case is resolved, let's not do the OSU thing and dismiss it as nothing.
Disagree
Innocent until proven guilty, no?
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Prison abs to get more prisony?
"Ack ack!"
Thomas Gordon is prison abs.
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Strike my last comment, neg away if you must. I feel ashamed.
"Ack ack!"
I'm just so fed up with this
I'm just so fed up with this crap coming from players and coaches at so many schools in D-1. And I'm sure we'd all agree that this kind of nonsense isn't what Michigan or any fine university should be part of.
It's one thing after another, from one school after another. There's a potential solution, but everyone's going to dislike my suggesting it: the elimination of athletic scholarships. Real college students should be playing college football, not semi-pro athletes. Realistically paid teachers should be coaching it, not pros depending on it for millions of dollars in salary.
Yes, big-time D-1 football makes for a more exciting brand of football. Yes the level of on-field competition in D-1 is excellent. And that may be important to a lot of people.
I know I'm the only person on this board who would give that level of competition up for a different system. Neg away.
What we currenly have is a set of minor leagues for the NFL. It's all about "the next level." Well, there should be minor league football for those who go to college only for that.
The Ivy League prohibits athletic scholarships in tis charter. The students who play are actual students. I have a lot of respect for that, and would honestly like to see Michigan leave the Big Ten and join the Ivies. Unless the NCAA does what it should do, and eliminate athletic scholarships, things aren't going to change.
I realize fully that Michigan will never do that for a myriad of reasons, nor will the NCAA. It's not going to happen. But it should.
Yes. Let's remove athletic
Yes. Let's remove athletic scholarships and thus destroy one of the few ways poor inner city youth can afford to set foot on this campus. That's great for social mobility and accomplishing our mandate to educate everyone in the state.
Man, come on!! How/why did Carvin Johnson transfer. He was the depth chart at safety.