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August 30th, 2010 at 7:29 PM
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The "Experts" on ESPNU

The wife and dtr are out of town for the week, so it's just me and the d.o.g. So I was watching some TV trying to pass the evening. 

A show called The Experts comes on. I see it's about CFB so i figure I would watch a little. Well.

They have a segment on Michigan.

All I can say is that if these people are experts at anything it's being ill informed. All they do is spout off  their opinions without any rational thought to back themselves up. 

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August 30th, 2010 at 7:31 PM
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Sweet post, dude.

Sweet post, dude.

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August 30th, 2010 at 7:32 PM
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No offense...

I think you are kind of doing the same.

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August 30th, 2010 at 8:36 PM
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I contributed a sarcastic

I contributed a sarcastic remark to the board.  The OP contributed nothing.

Really, though, posts like this ought to be deleted.

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August 30th, 2010 at 10:20 PM
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uhm....ehr

I think he is replying to the OP, not to you and essentially agreeing with you....at least I think so

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August 30th, 2010 at 11:30 PM
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Yes,

That would be correct. Had I intended to make the statement towards Lumberjack, I would have clicked the beautiful blue reply button that would have shifted my post a little to the right.

Oh btw, this is a reply to mtzlblk (sorry, had to ensure it was clear enough).

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August 30th, 2010 at 7:33 PM
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Still searching

for information, facts to back it up, substance, and a point.....hmmmm....anyone?

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August 30th, 2010 at 7:34 PM
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What did they say?

I didn't see it.  Can you fill us in?

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August 30th, 2010 at 7:36 PM
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Experts

I saw it too. They are very out of touch on there opinions of RichRod's job status. When the guy named danny said that RR needed an "exceptional season" to stay I was floored by his idiocy. Luiginbill was actually quite spot-on though.

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August 30th, 2010 at 7:41 PM
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Pretty much the general

Pretty much the general outsider-consensus on UM and Rich Rod.  I agreed withLuiginbill, he was the only one that made any sense.

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August 30th, 2010 at 7:41 PM
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I'm watching it too.

I'm watching it too.

About half the guys (Schad and others) think RR needs a 8+ win season to stay.

The other half (Belotti, Luginbil, etc) think RR will be the coach next year and that he only needs 6-7 to ensure that happening.

The frustrating thing is that they aren't consistent across teams. They say having 3 QBs isnt a problem for some teams, but then rip on Mich for not having announced a starter. 

They say it takes 3+ years to install a new system at a school, but say that RR is the wrong fit and needs to go ASAP.

Luginbil did say however, that if RR is allowed to stay for a couple years he will "flip the Big Ten on its head." Which would obviously make me very happy.

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August 30th, 2010 at 7:52 PM
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Circular Firing Squad

Most talking heads make little sense. How can anyone say if RR is allowed to stay he will "flip the Big10 on its head" and then say he might get fired. Do they think the U/M administration is stupid?

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August 30th, 2010 at 7:54 PM
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I heard that too. They said

I heard that too. They said that Brian Kelly is going to need 2-3 years to get his system in place and that teams need 3 Optioms at QB. But I'm sure they said the same stuff about Rich Rod when he first took over.

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August 30th, 2010 at 9:35 PM
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what???

how many schools have 3 options at QB.  probably almost none.  one of the dumbest comments i've ever heard, if truly said; and on tv?!?!

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August 30th, 2010 at 8:04 PM
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There aren't......

There aren't many people that I ignore more on TV than Joe Schad. 

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August 30th, 2010 at 8:36 PM
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True

But he looks like Einstein compared to Finebaum... seriously how dumb is that guy.

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August 30th, 2010 at 9:44 PM
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Finebaum has his nose so far

Finebaum has his nose so far up Nick Saban's ass, he can see the bottom of Gary Danielson's shoes.

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August 30th, 2010 at 9:54 PM
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It's pretty pathetic really

It's pretty pathetic really that he's developed a reputation for being "the most powerful voice in the SEC" or whatever they say. He's basically a UA groupie, as Bill points out. His show features some of the stupidest people I've ever heard -- like Jerry Springer almost.

 

I'm afraid the level of discourse surrounding the Bama program is not particularly high. I'm not really a Penn State fan, but I would love for them to beat Alabama in their newly renovated stadium.

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August 30th, 2010 at 10:56 PM
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Well stated, my Birmingham

Well stated, my Birmingham friend. That was the funniest thing I've read today.

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August 30th, 2010 at 10:50 PM
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Kanell says that Michigan

Kanell says that Michigan needs a fast QB in the model of a Pay White which they don't have and then 4 minutes later brings up how good Denard is.  Nice consistency.

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August 30th, 2010 at 8:14 PM
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Oh yeah...

That's for sure!!

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August 30th, 2010 at 9:05 PM
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I disagree...

It sure may be an unpopular opinion, but there is definitely good college football analysis on ESPN; it all depends on who you are listening to.  Cowherd is a blowhard, and no amount of UofM slappiness on his part will make me change my mind.  SVP and Ryen Russillo have a good grasp of what is going on, imo, and don't hop on many bandwagons – positive or negative.

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August 30th, 2010 at 8:13 PM
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Not surprised

This is why I say Michigan will surprise a lot of people.  It amazes me when I watch ESPN Gameday and other "experts" talk about Michigan.  I come away thinking, "Are they talking about the same team I read about and research every day?"  They are soooo off on their projections.  That's ok; let's "fly under the radar" and show everyone who the real Michigan football team is!!

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August 30th, 2010 at 8:33 PM
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As to 'flying under the radar':

I like the underdog role, but I also love when the mainstream gets all over the story in a positive way.  For example, how everything was sunshine and roses after the ND game last year. 

At what point this year do you think everybody will realize that Michigan is fielding a powerful team this year?  I think another 4 - 0 start might do it, but it might invite lots of "well, they started 4 - 0 last year and look how that turned out" comments. 

My hope: after we knock off Iowa, people realize that Michigan is back.

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August 30th, 2010 at 9:37 PM
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possibly

buy couldn't we easily be 2-2?  i hope not, but i'm not confident yet about this team.

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August 30th, 2010 at 10:52 PM
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I think UCONN is respected

I think UCONN is respected enough that it'll start after we crush them mercilessly.

I have a feeling that the bandwagon is going to fill up fast this year. 

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August 30th, 2010 at 8:16 PM
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This show has lost its luster

Ever since Starr Jones left. (She's a lawyer)

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August 30th, 2010 at 8:23 PM
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"dtr"

I don't think I've ever seen anyone abbreviate the word 'daughter.'  

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August 30th, 2010 at 9:45 PM
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...and then purposely double

...and then purposely double the number of characters in "dog".

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August 30th, 2010 at 8:41 PM
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I went past it once this

I went past it once this evening. I saw Brent Musberger. I continued on my merry way.

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August 30th, 2010 at 8:43 PM
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I believe brandon when he says there isn't 1 thing to this....

Brandon states overall state of the program, direction, everything.

What I take out of that is Rich has to right the ship this yr with wins/losses and keep all the negative bs out.  Ie no more self created negative bs. 

Ncaa ruling will also be the other half of this equation imo.  Nothing more damaging and everything is good.  Anything else and it's over, jmo. 

 

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August 30th, 2010 at 9:41 PM
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yep

that pretty much sums it up for any rational person.  and i'm certain brandon is one.

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August 30th, 2010 at 8:51 PM
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Phil Steele was on "the herd"

Phil Steele was on "the herd" today and said it best Michigan will have 8 wins and play LSU in the gator bowl.  As you know, he is one of the best at predicting the out come of the season.  I will take his opinion over that of Joe Schad or Danny Kanell's opinions.

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August 30th, 2010 at 9:43 PM
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wow...

...you had to listen to that asshat Cowherd to get that tidbit...

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August 30th, 2010 at 8:52 PM
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I watched a portion of it and this is all I heard

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August 30th, 2010 at 9:12 PM
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You know the truth under that "Thin Surface"

I believe that if he doesn't have an 8 win season, RR is gone!! The Alumni, I feel,still aren't totally sold on him,and you know and I know that as fans there are a lot of us that are nervous about  our "Wolverine Reputation" in the college "elite" ranks. I personally wanted Carr gone, not that I hated him, but I Michigan to be mentioned with the other programs in the BCS discussion,which Carr kept falling short of (plus the Tressel record).

RR needs 8 wins and one of those has to be down in Columbus or else he will be accused that he doesn't get it (Cooper). That might be true if that intensity doesn't show and you have the quiet whispers  by fans and alumni ,of that other coach out west ,at an academic school, that is a "Son of Schembechler" (just like Tressel was to Woody) waiting to come home and make his announcement on how many days there are til Michigan and Ohio St. meet, just like Tressel did, because he understood it.

I want RR to succeed, I saw what his system and players did to Oklahoma, but he needs to know what Michigan means not just to the fans, but to the nation. Oh yeah, we also don't want to become Notre Dame,which I think lingers in the back of the minds of fans also.......

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August 30th, 2010 at 9:39 PM
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Have you looked at the depth chart?

This team will lose one starter on O and one possibly two on D (depends on Obi).  Unless this season is a disaster I fully expect RR back. 

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August 30th, 2010 at 9:48 PM
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i agree

we don't want to become notre dame - the 2nd winniest program in ncaa history.  i want to give RR time to fully implement his players and coaches.  i don't want to be foolish and give stupid # of wins ultimatums.  2011 is the make or break year for me.

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August 30th, 2010 at 9:21 PM
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Haters gonna hate

Pundits are going to pund, Imma going to ignore them all, we are inside a week!

After the season, I think I am going to recommend to MSC that the university hire someone to make all these decisions. She could pick some snazzy term like Athletic Director.

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August 30th, 2010 at 10:00 PM
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Harrisburg Patriot News Experts

The BIG football issue came out this weekend.  HS, CFB, NFL.  Pretty good reading until you get to the Big TEN segment.  They actually pick UM #6 and PSU #7.  The problem was reading the opinion.  Was as if they only thing this guy knew about the Maize and Blue was what he had read for the last year in the Freep.  Read more like a personal attack on RR than analysis.  Called him a "slick talker that belonged in the SEC" or something like that.  What!  Anyway, lets just the game on against UCONN and start a real discussion.

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August 30th, 2010 at 10:36 PM
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ESPNU

Whenever I hear anything from a source that involves the words ESPN in some way I just ignore it. Seriously the people they have working there surprise me how ill informed they are everyday.

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