I'm not sure if that's paywalled or not. If so, here's a list TTB:
Expected Visitors List - 12/14/2012
Rivals lists Lacy and Hunt as NOT VISITING
Yes, which is why there are notes on there stating that they rescheduled.
Did you just update that a few minutes ago?
And you may know this, but is Conley completely off the board now? I see you still have him as visiting but Rivals didn't list him.
Nope, I updated it a couple days ago. When it was originally posted over the weekend, I had them listed as visiting. Then they rescheduled and I updated it.
I haven't heard that Conley is NOT coming. I don't know whether Rivals just assumes he isn't coming because he committed to OSU, but he was originally scheduled to visit, so I'm leaving him on there until I hear confirmation otherwise.
Couple Michigan Insider retweets today mentioned Sam had a gut feeling regarding David Dawson and D Green. Anyone hear this?
Huge weekend and a great opportunity for those already commited to bond.
Mind of Mike article on Rivals - NOT Paywalled
Seriously, you picked that photo Farrell. And the "quickly becoming the most popular recruiting feature on the internet"?
But some interesting comments. ATM superceding Texas and Oklahoma comes as a surprise. I've seen rumblings of that but he flat-out states it. And USC get your filthy hands off Green.
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From what I understand he's wanted to get back into the class for awhile, the coaches made him go through a process as they re-evaluated other players. Sounds like that process could come to an end this weekend.
With that said, if Dawson re-commits, how does that affect all of the other OL recruits?
I can't wait until some reporter tries to get detailed/inside info on the Dawson situation during the Signing Day Press Conference and Coach Hoke says "that's between our staff and David" and give the reporter some "bitch, I will slap you" look from the podium. Someone will ask, he absolutely will not answer.
in a couple of different places.
He seems intent on visting 'bama and tsio in Jan.
I'd be very surprised if he re-committed this weekend.
If Magnus says otherwise, I'll be very happy and take my ball and play in a different sandbox for the rest of the afternoon.
I don't say otherwise, but mainly because I've stopped really caring what Dawson does or doesn't say.
Dawson committed to U of M. Then he decommitted. He said he wanted to go far away from home, then he said he wanted to stay nearby. He said Wisconsin was high on his list, then they weren't. The whole thing that started this ordeal was a desire to visit Florida, and now they're not even mentioned as being an option. He tweeted about guys committing to Michigan, and then nobody committed to Michigan.
Anything Dawson says could totally be out the window in 24 hours, so it's anyone's guess on whether he'll actually visit Alabama, Ohio State, or even Michigan for that matter.
I obviously care about recruiting and can't say that I'm completely indifferent, but I'm not going to count on anything from him until he faxes in his letter (to some school or another) on National Signing Day. And, well, there might even be adventures after that... Who knows?
I agree - and I bet he commits. I bet the coaches sit him down, tell him about how badly a few other linemen would love this last OL spot, and even how they'd be cool with taking 4 OL if some of the other elite talent commits. Without saying as much, they'll let him know that if he takes officials and waits until late January to decide, Michigan won't be an option.
If he likes Michigan enough to beg the coaches for his offer back, I bet he jumps on it this weekend.
Because of how that formatted, I thought for a minute (a long minute) that Dawson was analyzing himself in 3rd person via twitter and the likelihood that he will re-commit
Aren't you too tall to run block at some point?
If he's listed at 6'10", he's probably 6'8" or 6'9".
But watching his highlights, I do think he struggles to get low, which is a big concern. There's a reason someone that huge is only a 3-star prospect...
But I think Shane Morris is much taller than Denard, so we'll need someone at least 6'10" to lift Shane up, like so...
Is this what HD cartoons look like?
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But most of our 2013 OL class is versatile. Bosch and Fox could play guard or tackle and Kugler could probably play all three, but certainly guard or center. If the fifth guy is locked into one spot but is really good, I'm fine with that.
Dawson (if he commits) could play multiple positions, too. He's listed in some places as a tackle, although I think he'll end up as an offensive guard.
You may know better, but do you think Lacy rescheduled because of Dawson? Meaning they may think Dawson will commit, which means they don't want to waste their time right now?
I don't really get the feeling that had much of an effect on Lacy rescheduling. I get the feeling that Lacy is only mildly interested in Michigan. Cameron Hunt is higher on Michigan than Lacy, I think.
...and others, should/when Dawson commits? Have you heard anything about taking 2 more OLmen?
TomVH seems to think there's a strong possibility that Michigan will take six, especially if Lewan leaves. I think that makes some sense, although I would want Michigan to take the best player available if that scholarship opens up. There's not a really strong need for a sixth OL.
I wonder how the timetable with the OTs will fit with Lewan's...if we take an OT (6th OL), it might be Signing Day.
As for Lewan, I spoke with someone with the team and they said it's painfully 50/50. I think he absolutely wants to stay, but a top 10 grade will be too much to pass up.
I can't imagine the Lions passing up on him with the kid at TAMU seemingly being the #1 OT off the board.
With all that said, I said this a couple weeks ago --- this game vs. S. Carolina is going to be somewhat telling IMO. He's going to battle an NFL level DE for an entire game. He'll see exactly where he's at and every scout will too.
At the beginning of the year I thought Fitz was gone if he was a 3rd round pick or better and Lewan would return - after a Trey Burke like scare. Fitz is obviously coming back, but I think Lewan will have to go unless Clowney goes to town (which I don't see happening).
Two first round picks and LT is the most significant need on the team.
I don't know about that. The Rams really like Rodger Saffold at LT, he's just been hurt for a good portion of the year. That team desperatly needs help at the offensive skill positions, so I'd expect to see them go that route.
Did you miss last year's draft? I cannot see the Rams using a first round pick on this year's weak skill position crop, especially given Quick, Givens and Daryl Richardson. The Rams biggest problem for the last two years has been keeping Bradford upright. Right or left, tackle is their number one priority.
I think Lewan will probably announce shortly after the bowl, which should let Lacy/Hunt know the deal before their January visits.
What are the odds that Lewan leaves? I would think pretty high. Any info out there?
Couldn't be more 50/50 than it is with Taylor. I'm not sure he's going to even remotely think about it until after the game. He doesn't need to and the game will be pretty telling.
FWIW, I think you're overstating this a bit. I get the sense that Tom's thoughts about a sixth OL are more "you never know; it's possible" than "it's a strong possibility."
I would take Hunt even if Dawson returns to this class, what can I say, call me a fan of the "barge" formation... you can kick field goals and run inside zone!
expressed displeasure when our long snapper committed because they thought he was a 6th OL. They were all told there would be only five. In my opinion, that does not change regardless of Taylor's decision.
Situations change, and the coaches can't help that. Iowa might tell running backs that they only want two, but when 3 guys on the roster get career-ending injuries and 3 guys transfer, they obviously need more running backs.
What was true back on February 18, 2012, won't necessarily still be true in January 2013. That's the way life goes.
Wondered why people thought Lewan would have any bearing on taking a 6th lineman. By the time the lineman is done redshirting, Lewan would be gone anyways, so I don't really see what would change as far as recruiting goes.
It doesn't necessarily mean you NEED another lineman, but it does open up a scholarship. There aren't really any glaring recruiting needs at this point, and with a couple offensive linemen interested, that position makes as much sense as any. The coaches told Morris they would only take 1 QB, they told Gedeon/McCray they would only take 2 LB, etc. You either leave the scholarship open or you take a guy at a position that you've already said is "full" (or you stretch for a WR since Treadwell passed on you, quite possibly wasting a scholarship altogether).
Michigan's in a mode where they can take the best player available. I think Cameron Hunt, for example, might fit that description.
I just don't understand why people think Lewan would automatically be replaced by a 6th lineman
It's not automatic.
Let me put it this way: If Lewan and all the other linemen are returning, I would be very surprised if Michigan takes six offensive linemen.
Magnus, do you have an email or something I could reach you at?
If you click the link in his signature, you'll go to his website where there is a "bio and contact" link at the very top of the page. Here you'll find his email address listed as [email protected].
Don't be lazy.
Yeah I went to the page and couldn't find it. Man am I terrible at finding obvious links on webpages. It's only when I really want info. Anyways, thanks for the help. I am not trying to be lazy when I ask these things.
Magnus has Conley on his list, is that still happening?
Ever gotten a visit from bryan mone (2014) yet?
Yeah, he visited for the Northwestern game and was rumored to be close to committing at the time.
I remember that now. So many recruits that I forget sometimes who does what. Say, since you're posting right now, let me ask...what do you think of Lawrence Marshall.
Eh, I'm not super excited about Marshall. He's a decent player, but he doesn't really look like a kid who might normally be offered 14 or 15 months before National Signing Day. If he weren't in Michigan's back yard, I kind of doubt he would have been offered this early.
I think he's a Michigan-caliber player (maybe not a star), but I hope that Michigan can reel in a truly elite kid to go along with him if he commits.
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This thread should just be named 'Mind of Magnus'...
I feel a new regular series coming on . . .
Nah, that would be derivative.
I think I'm going to contact Farrell about a series called Mike and Magnus Mind Meld. That's even more alliterative, with the added bonus of include me. What more could you want?
Are we still presumed to lead for McDowell?
And right there for Bryan Mone.
And mone to the last two classes of dlineman. Think about it and try not to be excited.
Yeah - that would be incredible. Wanna get really excited? Include DeShawn Hand.
Are you saying our defense could use a Hand?
Larry Foote isn't here anymore, so why not!
Butt is going to have his Hand full with Taco, so he's going to have to be sly like a Fox or else it's going to be an up Hill battle for playing time and he'll have to Ward off some challengers. I just hope these guys can stay out from behind Bars and stay on the field between two Ferns in 2016.
I Gant wait for the 2013 season to see these guys put up their Dukes. Let's Gedeon already!
Triple M of Mone, Marshall and McDowell would be fantastic for 2014.
I just saw Mone's eval on Tremendous and concur 100% with the summary (likewise D is my area and Mone is an "oh shit" prospect). The other 2 are solid and could become beasts with enough speed & agility training.
I agree with you on Mone, but I think McDowell is a little better than "solid" already. He's far from a finished product (like most HS juniors) but he's a full-on man already.
It is an expected visitors list after all.
But you're making very "new" mistakes that are annoying to many posters...just throwing it out there. Don't shoot the messenger. It happens every day where some new person doesn't read...their post gets negged, they keep posting, they get negged, then they make some rant about MGoBlog being exactly what people say...and that post gets negged. And that's how it ends.
You asked about Green. This thread is an expected vistors list. If Green isn't mentioned, then he's not an expected visitor considering all of the expected guys are mentioned in the original post.
Also, through a little research, you'll find that Green took his official visit during the MSU game this year.
Pretty sure if he was, it would be listed.
The real question is if Kyle Bosch is enrolling early?
How many scholarships do we have left?
I think we lead and will get Dawson and Green.
I think McQuay "shocks" folks and goes to Vandy to play for Coach Franklin, but he'd be my next guess as the third spot.
I believe that's all the room we have...but if we don't get McQuay and we assume we get the first two...who gets the third spot?
I'm going to assume that if Lewan leaves it opens up a 4th spot and we'll take an OT that has been mentioned in the OP, so I'll consider that a "wash."
So back to that third spot...if it's not McQuay (and no, not Treadwell)...who is it?
If we don't get McQuay, I'd assume the last spot goes to a DB - maybe Reon Dawson, maybe Delano Hill, maybe one of the other guys we've been talking to but aren't as high on the list. Tim Harris would be a great pick up.
a 6th offensive lineman? Reon Dawson? Delano Hill?
Reon Dawson, Delano Hill, a couple LB prospects, and another OL are all on the board still.
We have 24 spots right now, 25 if Lewan leaves, more if there are other departures. I'm expecting at least one more opening.
There are 22 kids committed.
So we have 2 or 3 spots left.
I think Devin Gardner has an unbelievable bowl game against South Carolina, going 48 of 60 for 6 passing TD's, 560 yards, and 1 INT. Roundtree, Gallon, Dileo, Funchess, Denard, and Darboh each get a TD pass and each has over 70 yards receiving. It's clear, though, that Gardner's passing makes them play much better than they would otherwise be capable of.
With Devin's rushing touchdown, the final score is 49-21 Michigan, and Treadwell realizes that if an 8-4 Michigan can beat up on a 10-2 SEC team, the SEC as a conference is a bit over-rated (Ole Miss included). Gardner gets cleared for his medical redshirt during the postgame presser, and it becomes clear to Laquon that our passing game is a perfect fit for him. He picks us on NSD.
Also, Jake Long unearths a previously-unknown eligibility loophole and comes in (healthy) to fill in after Taylor Lewan is the 8th pick in the NFL draft. Dawson commits immediately after his Ohio State visit in January, and Green also chooses Maize and Blue. We also end up with Hilliman as a corner and E.J. Levenberry comes into the fold. This puts our class into second on Rivals.
Oh, and Alabama beats ND in the MNC game, 49-6.
You really think ND will score 6 pts vs Alabama?
I know we post "hello" and "goodbye" threads on recruits/players but if Dawson recommits does Ace/Brian post a "Welcome Back" thread?
If so - have we ever seen one of those before?
BWC was a welcome back, not sure what the post title was exactly though.
What Conley liked about Michigan in the first place was that we offered him a scholarship and no one else did. He committed before coming to campus, so I don't see why coming to campus will help him realize that anyway.
Such a tease