Evans up to 212
The hope is that he doesn't lose any speed with the added weight. But he did need to get stronger if he wanted to be the go-to back. Jim Harbaugh isn't going to settle for a back who can't break any tackles.
I can't wait to see the updated numbers from the whole team during camp. Last year I remember Brian posting a chart that had everyone's weight and the +/- from the year before.
Obviously, these can be exaggerated, but it's still cool to monitor. I also saw that Winovich will probably be 15-20 lbs heavier that this past season by the fall.
EDIT- didn't mean to reply to a post, but fuck it
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he lost a little speed, but if he still has quick feet and can run through some tackles this year the trade off is worth it. Also will help in pass blocking
His quicks and ability to cut and accelarate are his strengths. If he can't do it at 212 I'm sure they will work on that and get him where he needs be come August.
I predict 205 will be his playing weight this fall solely based on not watching any spring clips and reading the few posts above.
Bro, stick to the offseason rulez! ALL weight gain is good, while concurrently ALL weight loss is good. This granular analysis you are posting should only be on sites where it is offset by bewbs.
Initial reaction when I read the OP:
1) That's why his 40-time was close to 4.7
2) That's a lot weight to put on -- probably 15 - 20 pounds
3) Evans, the coaches, and the trainers know what weight he needs to be at
4) This is a good thing until proven otherwise
FWIW a long time ago I put 15 lbs. onto a rather slim frame during a 3-week bike trip. 1200 miles carrying way too much gear (well over 50lbs) took a lot of calories. Before the trip running 10 miles was no problem. After, I couldn't run 3. But I could bike for an hour at least 50% faster than before. All the added weight came off in 5 weeks.
Hey Magnus (or any of the coaches on the board),
Watching the Evans interview one thing that stuck out was how he said numouous times that he liked Coach Jay better because his coaching was more tailored to the skillsets of small backs than Coach Wheatly's, who was a 'big back' guy.
So, what's the difference? What kind of things are the backs learning now that they weren't learning before?
Thanks, and if this was already discussed in another thread I apologize.
Where did he say that he liked Jay Harbaugh better? He said Jay helped him see a different perspective, but I watched and didn't hear him say that he preferred one over the other. He was more suprised at the readiness of Jay to take on his new role. But better?
He didn't say specifically that he liked Jay Harbaugh better, but he did imply that Harbaugh's coaching (so far) is more tailored to a smaller back's strengths. And despite his weight gain, I still wouldn't call Evans a big back. So I think it can probably be interpreted that he prefers this style of coaching to "big back" preferences.
One big thing is the blocking. Big backs can stand in there and take on a blitzing linebacker, but smaller backs often try to chop defenders down, or else they'll get overpowered. This can be a point of contention at times.
There's also a tendency as a coach to want to make players play and read things like you. I know some people will disagree, but De'Veon Smith was not the most talented back on the roster last year, but he was a bigger back and got a plurality of the carries. There are some other guys on the roster who were probably thinking, "Hey, I can make big plays and I've got better numbers than that guy, but he's starting every game."
If you're a 195 lb. back but your coach is telling you to lower your shoulder and run through defenders, that might not make sense. If another coach comes in and says, "Look, your strength is your agility, so I want you to set your defender up this way or that way," then that's going to make a little more sense to you.
I'm not saying that's what's happening here, but there are tweaks. I've had small running backs in the past, and I've taught them to run out of bounds or to curl up around the ball when they're getting wrapped up. But with a bigger back or a guy who's strong/aggressive enough to make it happen, you can teach him to stay inbounds and lower his shoulder, or you can teach him to keep his shoulder pads parallel to the LOS and run behind his pads.
If the weight he added is pure muscle, he'll not only not lose speed, he'll gain it.
last year, very exciting. Sounds like he put on a lot of muscle. Very cool to learn he still talks to Coach Wheatley and found Coach Jay Harbaugh so prepared. Thanks for posting.
It's weird, if you listen to the video, Evans says that he was "blown away by how ready [Jay Harbaugh] was." However, the quote that Nick typed says that Evans was "blown away by how prepared [Jay Harbaugh] was." Not sure why the need to change the actual quote.
In my humble opinion it's the process of gaining that 5 pounds. Hours and hours of lifting. Working out. That's what makes a difference. The mental toughness is what will make him great. Not the 5 extra pounds. Ask Vincent Smith...one of our better blocking RB's the last decade. A lot of the game is about attitude.
The 5 pounds of muscle is great and all...but it's not a game breaker for Evans.
I don't know that 5lbs is really felt all that much. I played winger opposite of a former SEC running back in rugby several years ago. I played between 180 and 190 and my speed never changed, although it was never near the other winger's speed. When i wen back a few years later after heavy weight lifting, I was 215 and had the same speed. The only thing I noticed, was I didn't have the speed as long at a time as I did at 190, but the top end was still the same.
I really don't think 5 or 10 lbs matters all that much. It's when you start adding 20 or more, and even then, I feel it's more of how long you can have top speed vs actual top speed. I think all of this negates to a point if you develop muscle while still training for speed at the same time.
Ol boy getting thicc
I think 210 is about right for him. As long as all that weight gained is muscle, and he is dilligent about his stretching and flexibility, he shouldn't lose any agility or explosiveness. He's never going to be a "burner", but his acceleration is so great that it makes up for just good speed. If he can maintain the athleticism we saw last year with 10 extra pounds of muscle he should be very good for the next 2 to 3 years.
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The ol' Spider 2 Y Banana play.
Well...sort of. I believe Peppers was listed at 6'1", 205 at Michigan. At the Combine, he was 5'11", 213. Heights are exaggerated. Weights, maybe not so much.
"(We ran) that at 6 o'clock in the morning," he smiled.
At this point in my life, the only way a 4.67 40-time even gets discussed is if there is a pot of coffee and some breakfast at the end of the line, especially at 6 in the morning.
In all seriousness though, good for him - Evans is another player that I am very excited to see this coming season.
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I just ran a 4.67 30-yd dash in work pants and dress shoes. It's not that difficult.
I think that's still a relatively impressive 30-yd dash
If he's up to that weight without sacrificing any of his speed, this could be a great year for him.
Between him, Higdon, Walker and Isaac, there will be no shortage of great options to run the ball. We can only hope that the new OL will be able to open enough holes for them.
He said he was 205 last year, so he basically gained 7 pounds. I never expected him to get over 215, though. He doesn't have a Bo Scarbrough or De'Veon Smith body. He just doesn't.
You are painting him out as though he's 6 ft 9 lol.
A lot of people on here are probably the same/taller than him. 5'11 is a relatively average height.
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