All I can say is I hope we have a substantial lead in the game early on to use all 3 qb.
i refuse to even consider this a possibility
All I can say is I hope we have a substantial lead in the game early on to use all 3 qb.
I'm predicting a Sheridan/Kennedy 50/50 split. Sounds like a win!
Tate will start and give us the lead.
Denard will run three circles around every DB before scoring his first touchdown.
Coner will rap about the humiliation to intimidate future opponents.
Seems like the perfect combination to me.
Coner can be our human victory cigar.
WTF? Only 3 circles? I think 6 circles would be better...just to get the DBs a little more dizzy.
You're being way too pessimistic. Denard should be able to do this:
only without shoelaces
Tate will give us a three TD lead at half time. Denard will run like hell and then Sheridan comes in to blow the game.
You forgot to mention the real news in that article: Denard doesn't tie his shoes before going out to play. My mom would kill him.
None of us should care how it happens after 2008. As long as Michigan wins in 13 days, whatever Coach Rod decides to do is good enough.
Maybe the focus shouldn't be to throw a heep of poo on Sheridan but rather to be happy that Sheridan can hang with Tate and Denard this season (in practice, at least). Maybe Sheridan has really improved (like RR was saying before practices began) or maybe Sheridan just has a good grasp on the system. In any event, good for us to have 3 viable options at QB this year unlike last year when we had 0.
It will be interesting to listen to what question prompted RR to say that. I wonder if he truly meant he will be playing 3 QBs or if he meant that he could see himself playing any of the 3 QBs.
The MGoBlue video had the question cut out, so I'm not sure if we'll hear the exact question ever. I would imagine it was something about who is leading for the starting position. His response seemed to dance around that particular topic.
that was where I was hoping to "hear" it from later, maybe the mods who said they would be going to the press conference last night will be including it in their write ups?
I was there and I remember him saying that at this point he plans to play all 3 QBs in the first game. He did not make that promise about games after that.
Yeah, he said there were still 2 weeks left and a lot will happen between now and then, so it's not even definite that he will use the three. It's just what they are thinking now.
surprised as well
This isnt a pro offense and this isnt WVU with Pat White. We have three UNPROVEN qbs. All three will play during important parts of the game. For those who hate Sheridan, get over it now because you will have to deal with it Sept. 5.
Sorry, but ever since Sheridan kicked my dog and knocked up my sister, I've kinda disliked the guy. Either that or my "hate" consists of remembering last year -- much as I'd like to forget it. In that important sense, not all of our three QBs are equally "unproven." Here's hoping that RR and the coaching staff have a passing familiarity with last year's game film and will "deal with" that.
I hope, IF the game ends up being a blowout, that Denard gets some meaningful reps in the game. He will be one play away from being a key contributor, if not the starter at QB, and I hope RR uses this opportunity to get him some experience points while under pressure.
It'll be hard for him not to get meaningful reps when he starts.
Why are you so adamant that Denard will be the starter?
Because he's blindingly awesome.
In all seriousness, I'm half joking. But I think that he's too similar to Pat White for RR to pass up. Also, after watching jackrabbit quarterbacks tear the shit out of us for years, I want to root for one of our own.
I know there's been a long standing debate over whether it's wise to play 2 QBs, but 3 QBs? Isn't practice supposed to sort some of this out? I can see bringing in Denard as a change of pace, with his great speed. Maybe Sheridan will be like a change-up for a baseball pitcher...tacklers will run right past him.
So much for a slow day today, huh? Rod's response made the front page of ESPN.com.
I have no idea how I feel about this. The real news - if the quote has been understood correctly - is that Nick Sheridan is going to play. I've been with Brian that such a thing was completely un-possible as long as Forcier and Shoelace were upright and mobile, and I have no idea how to react now that it may in fact be possible.
I don't really like it. Does RR really think Sheridan is as close to as good as Tate and Denard? Unless Carlos Brown plays QB in a new wildcat formation. I hope Sheridan only plays for one series. This game will not be a blowout. Please give us Brown in a wildcat formation.
That is actually how I was reading it. Tate, Denard, and wildcat/trick play of some sort.
Uhh, why does anyone need Brown in the Wildcat when we have Denard?
I am skeptical of this claim. It sounds more like a way to keep them all motivated.
It's hard to stay motivated when Denard keeps crushing your will.
praying so hard that you are right.
.. audio is on mgoblue and this remark in particular was at about the 2:25 mark.
that a QB with 20 months in a system, and a pretty good brain on his shoulders, knows how to run this offense and has played well? If so, good for Sheridan.
Does anyone honestly think Rich Rod would play Sheridan if he didn't think Sheridan could help the team win? He had no choice last year, he has a choice this year. So, again, good for Sheridan.
That said, Denard will be starting by the Delaware St. game at the latest and will win the Heisman over Tebow in December. The Bank. Take it there.
No, commenters on MGoBoard no more about which quarterback is best for this offense than RichRod.
you should "no" better than that.
In my defense, I was eating a Big Mac while typing and wasn't paying attention.
Judging from Rodriguez's decision to start Sheridan over Threet last year...they probably do.
maybe he plays well in practice. He somehow got the nod last year, too (in the opener.)
Maybe RR has some sort of evil scheme going where he knows that Sheridan is Death in human form but will play him because secretly he wants Michigan to lose.
Or maybe he's a coach who has had a very successful career thus far who knows exactly what he's doing.
In Rod we trust
The Bank. I'm withdrawing all funds.
This is crap. It's time for the qbs to understand and recognize that a clear starter is in the program and has the proven mettle to spur this offense into the direction it deserves. As soon as Robinson and Sheridan can accept the fact Cone is the proper starting qb, the sooner they will stop supporting the Forcier campaign
fwiw, i would actually expect to see Sheridan start in hopes of keeping Forcier from getting opening jitters and struggling. Robinson may be swapped in and out a la Feagin v 2.0.
Denard is going to play QB in week one. He's not going to burn (pardon the unfortunate word when discussing Feagin) his redshirt on special teams against Purdue.
that he hopes it means they have three starting qbs and not that the defense is that bad that they are making them all look good. I agree with jg2112, as long as we win, I dont care who ends up playing qb. My guess: Sheridan starts, Tate takes over on series 2 and rotates with Denard for the rest of the half. Sheridan sees another series in the second half, Tate or Denard, whoever has played better, plays the rest of the game. Unless its a blowout in which case they keep rotating.
you act like WMU doesn't have a shot at winning.
"not so fast, my friend"
I think Western has a very good chance at winning. Or, at least almost as good as Michigan's.
If you have three QBs competing for the starting spot, is there any way you wouldn't say this? Let's see what happens if you declare a starter right now:
1. You discourage the other two that you don't expect to use but might have to if there is an injury
2. You (might) let the starter's guard down a little
3. You help opponents prepare for you
I read anything that starts with "at this point" as "mind your own business".
I think there is benefit to naming a starter right now as well. It gives the team a guy to get behind and support. It also allows you to give more reps to that guy, so he is more prepared come game day.
If other players get discouraged by a different guy being named starter, then they are probably not the type of players you want playing for you to begin with. I would hope they would get fired up to prove their worth more.
I don't like this news at all. I'm sorry to say but I really don't want Sheridan playing this year.
Too bad, it's not your call.
Robinson became the story of media day because he hasn't tied the laces of his cleats since he started playing football at the age of 7.
It hasn't slowed him down.
He starred for Deerfield Beach High School last season and at the Florida 4A track and field championships.
Michigan makes Robinson tape his ankles for practice, but doesn't plan to force him to tie his laces for games.
I always just thought this was just another one of the running jokes on the board. He seriously doesn't tie his laces? Holy shit.
Talk about living up to your nickname.
Having to play 2 to decide who the starter is seems pretty normal. Having to play 3 seems equally abnormal.
If he in fact does play all three, as a pre-game plan, to determine who should be the starter, is there any precedent for this? Does anyone remember any other coaches ever not been able to narrow the choice down to at least 2 by Sept?
Tennessee back in either 1999 or 2000, playing thee quarterbacks in their first game. I dont remember if that was the game plan or if it was just a case of the starter sucking.
In 2007, Charlie Weis didn't name a starter until the day before the opener against GT (IIRC). The three in the mix were Clausen, Demetrius Jones, and Evan Sharpley, and they all played in the first game. Jones was the "starter", but as most of you remember, he had left the program less than two weeks later.
(edit: irish explained this more fully about 20 posts down)
the player that RichRod believes gives the team the best chance to win. I know that statment sounds so PC, but RR knows SOOOO much more about this than anyone on this board except Chitown.
After last season, RR will never put a QB on the field that he doesn't think he can win with. The starter will be the one he and the other coaches beileve can win the game.
Like most herem I believe DRob and Tate bring more ability and talent to the table than Sheridan (sorry Brodie). BUT, Sheridan has a full season of the Spread-n-Shred as well a full year of Barwis. Fom a experience standpoint Nick should be able to see what's happening on the field quicker than the freshes. But being able to execute is the no. 1 key in this offense.
No matter who starts Sept. 5, I trust RR's decision here. If all three play, it won't be because RichRod doesn't KNOW who his best QB is.
Of course RR will use 3 QBs. Tate and Denard will split reps while Nicolette holds the clipboard.
...his desired College Football preseason, it seems that Coach Rodriguez is nonetheless going to install a preseason gameplan.
1. "Nard Dogg"
2. Calling a 21 year old "DEATH"
Various reasons others may neg you...
A. Whining about points (I had already negged you, so this wasn't my reasoning)
B. Beavis avatar (Just throwing it out there)
The second g was really excessive.
And how can Sheridan represent the great oblivion when he keeps cheating it (in depth-chart terms)? He keeps coming back despite injuries and having to compete against scholarship players better suited for the offense. Maybe he should be called "Rasputin."
Maybe he should be called "Rasputin."
Unfortunately, that name conjures images of a certain coke-head Lions coach.
Damn you Chris Berman!
Calling Fontes a coke head gives the impression that there were people who weren't doing coke in that era.
is that Sheridan is getting a real chance to compete for the position after his putrid performance last year. They're giving him a second chance to redeem himself, but it'll be short lived if both Forcier/Robinson do not just look totally lost out there. That is possible, however. Forcier and Robinson have a total of zero collegiate snaps. You never know how they will react until gametime. If Sheridan did deserve a second chance, at least there'll be a game manager out there to properly hand the ball off to the 4 Rbs and have them and the line carry the offense.
The adage says that if you've got two, then you've got none. Nobody ever said anything about three though.
I don't like this news; not because I don't want to see Sheridan (let the best QB for the job play), but because it seems to me that this is supposed to be the time to iron out who should be the starter -- NOT during the game. Yes, it is possible that they are so close that they can't make a decision, but I can see the juggling of QBs at the outset seriously upsetting the rhythm with the receivers, etc.
Who knows -- it could be just RR's way of motivating the QB's, but I don't like hearing that he's decided to be completely indecisive about this, especially this early on.
Weis played 3 QBs in our starter in 2007 vs. Georgia Tech. That was a long QB battle that wasn't really settled till week 6. The first QB change came after the half when Demetrius Jones was pulled for Sharpley to get some time and then finally Clausen in the 4th.
Now It was pretty obvious halfway through the 3rd that the QB change wasn't going to lead to a comeback. And that may have been the motivation to even give the 2nd and 3rd guys a look, but getting all 3 out there really painted a picture of where ND was compared to quality teams.
I don't really know what to make of RR's comments on everyone getting snaps in game 1 but it will be interesting to follow. If he was really trying to motivate them wouldn't he have said there is 1 guy beginning to distance himself and not say who. I mean he says all 3 will get snaps wouldn't that tell you if you were one of them that your safe? Doesn't that just say your doing enough to stay in the picture? I agree with your skepticism.
Agreed. I just don't like this either. I was really hoping that Forcier was distancing himself, along with Denard being used in certain situations.
I don't think that RR is being indecisive considering it's just two weeks into practice looking at two pure freshmen who haven't seen one second of college ball. I think it would be unwise to anoint either Tate or Denard the presumptive starter at this early stage; the staff simply hasn't seen enough work by either quarterback. Besides, if it were so blindingly obvious that either Tate or Denard was the only guy capable of leading the offense, that would not be a good thing from the standpoint of depth.
Yes, but why come right out and say, "Yeah, we're going to play all three QBs during game one," especially this early during camp.
Did he actually say that? The article only quotes him a couple of times at the end, and they don't have him saying anything that direct.
More or less, yes. Hence this entire thread.
The ESPN article has no actual quote from him to that effect. I checked the Free Press article and found this:
“In what order and how many, I couldn’t tell you,” Rodriguez said. “Right now, all three of them look like they’re going to play in the opener.”
That's not necessarily a guarantee that all three will play.
As I said earlier in the thread, he also said there are still 2 weeks left and a lot can happen by then.
"That's not necessarily a guarantee that all three will play."
After seeing the quote, I agree, but would take it a step further and say that it doesn't even mean 2 will play. I think he was just saying that all 3 are currently playing at a high level. He was talking in the present tense but using starting as a way to judge how they look now (comparing how they look now against the criteria of starting in the WVU game). All 3, right now, look like they could play, not necessarily like they will play.
I can see three Qbs playing. Tate and Denard take snaps and Sheridan is the placeholder for kicks. I don't think that is far fetched.
Has to be the most fickle group of folks evah. We all (mostly) started off proclaiming Forcier our savior, then the Sheridan rumblings started gaining traction; people recoiled in horror at first, then quietly accepted it was possible. Now, it's all about Denard babby!
I'm going to crawl in a hole til Sat. September 5th, when I emerge to take my seats at the Big House.
I think RR knows what he his doing so i will trust him