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ESPN Poll Vote for Denard and Fitz as the best offensive tandem in the Big Ten!
Jeez after looking at those other choices it makes me realize how great a shot Michigan has at having the best offense in the Big Ten.
In the second year with Borges running the show, I can't wait to see the improvements Denard will make as he becomes more comfortable running the show. Plus, Borges really hasn't had someone like Denard before (besides, you know, Denard last year) to really come up with some creative stuff....can't wait for this season to get here.
I see sophomore maintenance instead of a Rich Rod-esque 2nd year leap. I think if Denard had a third year in the system, we would see a really incredible season out of him. It's unfortunate and really hard to believe this is his last season. What an icon he's become.
If we see 3 dominant games out of him a la Nebraska/tOSU 2011, I'll be pretty thrilled with the offensive progression.
I'm sure Denard has bonded and become an integral part of this team. I don't think you can compare his future success this season with your analyis of high school football.
Don't read the comments!!!
lol at Vandenberg and Keenan Davis. Is the big ten really so devoid of talent?
Yes of offensive talent...it will definitley be a defensive league this year.
Burkhead and Martinez are the only ones that should stay remotely close in the voting.
Even though they have a much smaller fan base they always win this stuff. They sit and vote millions of times. I live in Nebraska and it is all we have to do. No pro teams, 2 lakes that suck in a 500 mille radius, and cow crap.
Martinez and Burkhead are a mouth breathing, inbred poor man's version of Denard and Fitz. NO ONE should be close.
BUT Burkhead and Martinez are the only ones that should stay remotely close in the voting.
Burkhead is a pretty solid player. Martinez is more of a shot putter than a quarterback. Burkhead is a horse that would be more effective if the Cornhuskers had anything resembling a passing game.
That being said, no one should be close to Denard and Fitz.
Actually an offensive line would be more helpful. See mike Martin forcing a pitch on a speed option. Wasn't one of their starting Gs a walkon by the time we played them due to injury.
Martinez-Burkhead: 4,320 Total yards
Robinson-Fitz: 4,390 Total yards
I don't think this is the most telling comparison. Fitz wasn't even a starter until the 2nd half of the season. His numbers look really good compared to Rex's when you consider how much less time he spent playing & his average carry. Plus our boys scored more TDs (45 to 39). Plus Rex looks like QWOP when he throws.
there's not much left. Number of starts, number of carries/pass attempts, injuries, being pulled out of a game early with a big lead, you could go on and on. And who knows, maybe Fitz's production would have diminished over a full season.
Its a pretty simple proposition in the poll, who's the best tandem, and total rushing and passing yards is about as universal a yardstick as possible in this case, taking in account all types of offenses.
But if a slight edge in TD's and yards per attempt carry the argument for you, so be it, DR-Fiitz are great in my book and this is a Michigan board so you should like your guys the best.
Anyway, good way to pass the time until FB starts.
I like Rex a lot & I think he had a great year. I think he'll probably have another great year. I don't mean to make an extremely detailed examination of the numbers, I guess what I really mean is this - Rex got to put in a full season's worth of production, which I think accurately reflects his skills & the work he does. Fitz got like half a season, so I don't think his total yardage matches his ability as closely. If the question was "Which B1G tandem had the best season in 2011?" then I think total yardage would be a great indicator. But if we're asking about who we think are the best players now, I'd have to side with Fitz & Denard, because I think Fitz is still on the rise.
I didn't even realize until after your response that you were a Husker fan :) Now I feel bad. That QWOP thing was a joke, kind of. Speaking of passing the time:
there's so many ways to look at it--and naturally we'll look through our red or blue tinted glasses.
I consider myself a guest on this board, so for the sake of good manners, I never get on here to bash Michigan. But I expect to get a little kidding so no harm done.
Just trying to give you guys a little different viewpoint, and who better than from not only a rival fan but a fan from the newest member of the B1G.
Really enjoyed watching Denard last year except during our game.....
I like having fans of the other B1G schools on here. It's like spotting a rare animal or something. Actually I like having you all here because it means you're the type of people who love college football in general enough to talk about it with us despite the Michigan-centric nature of the forum. And hopefully it means that mgoblog has a good enough community/discussions that such efforts are rewarding for you as well.
Michigan's 4th Heisman trophy winner and Fitz are up with 38% of the vote.
lots of butthurt in the comments
ESPN comments are home to unemployed trolls.
Why does it say, "What will be the Big Ten's top offensive tandem in 2011?"
Pretty sure it shouldn't be asking for future projections in 2011...
If DeVier Posey was returning with Braxon Miller, I think they would have been a force to be reckoned with in the B1G. I am haunted with visions of Miller becoming Troy Smith's Michigan-killing visage with his superior athleticism and ability to scramble.
If it makes you feel better, I feel that Mattison would be a lot more successful scheming against T Smith than English / Hermann were
Totally agree. Let's not forget Florida's defense (under Greg Mattison, of course) made Troy Smith its bitch in the '07 title game.
Mattison knows how to prepare for dual-threats.
I was not particularly impressed with Mattison's scheming against Ohio's fairly inept (season-long, speaking) offense. Granted, they pretty much threw the kitchen sink at us, but the NFL-style calls he made nearly cost us free TD's on a couple occasions, saved only by Miller's misses (I suppose I contradict my original post here). I actually find this difficult to type as I've been a huge fan of him and think he is probably a key part of Hoke's success.
Hell, I should quit while I'm ahead. At least he's aggressive, and I haven't seen Chris Graham matched up on Gonzo yet.
no contest here, clear winners, even if I wasn't a total homer
the BIG is not good offensively this year
That Monte Ball and Jared Abbrederis are not leading the poll. Monte Ball being a returning leading rusher of the Big Ten and former Heisman candidate, and I believe Jared Abbrederis was 2nd in the Big Ten for receptions last year.
I know Danny O'Brien is a new starter, but considering the quality of Wisconsin's O-line ever year and the fact that Monte Ball will be there to take pressure off of him, it should be a relatively easy transition for Brien.
best tandem in big ten no doubt. so excited for this fall.....
ya theure goona be fun to watch this year