fair point that
ESPN Open Thread: Heisman Trophy followed by 30 for 30 "You Don't Know Bo"
The dude from ND is a great media story. That is all.
I saw Dat Nyguen's numbers from his sr. Yr and they were great. No Heisman hype. Are there LB's this yr w numbers comparable to T'eo?
Why does that Notre Dame player have a bunch of leaves around his neck? It makes him look like he's on marijuana.
Well you don't see Johnny Manziel in a damn ten gallon hat. Maybe he should be wearing one of those skirts then too if he really wanted to "honor" his state or what have you.
Is this guy for real or is he just an elaborate shit-boomer troll?
elaborate shit-boomer troll is my guess. Something similar to wolverineinabag/rdt. Someone who obviously has way too much free time on his/her hands.
Could the Heisman Curse cause Notre Dame to lose to Alabama in the National Championship Game?
Pretty sure with or without the Heisman Curse, ND will probably lose to Bama.
Yeah, I'm not sure either one will rate a big thread. Figured together we could save some board clutter. And they are both college football related.
Te'o was set up to be given the Heisman this year. He's had every award given to him, plus one, that Charles Wooodson had the year he won the Heisman. If Te'o doesn't win it I will be shocked.
What a bloody sham.
He should be the clear winner. He broke the SEC record for total offense in a season. The guy who held the record before him won the Heisman. If Te'o had taken a couple of his picks to the house I could've maybe agreed a little more with his candidacy.
Woodson will always be the one and only on defense to ever win the heisman.
Wisconsin down 8 to Marquette. Over 2 minutes left.
He's electric. He set a SEC record. Crazy good.
Te'o is a big, tough dude but no records and simply ND hype.
ND hype. Exactly why he has a legit chance to win.
Colin Klein would be winning this if he didn't blow it against Baylor. That being said, he's a great football player, and I hope he leads K-State to an upset over Oregon. Klein won't win tonight, but he deserves to be there.
I respect the hell out of Manti T'eo. He's got some of the best linebacker instincts of anyone who plays that position right now, and I have a feeling that he will translate very well into the NFL. But I can't bring myself to endorse him for the award for two reasons: 1) I hate Notre Dame, and 2) For a defensive guy to win, I think he needs to find multiple ways to get the ball in his hands, a la Charles Woodson. T'eo is a playmaker, but he's not as versatile as Woodson was, and I think Woodson set the standard for any defensive player that had any hope to win the Heisman. T'eo is one of the best football players in college football right now, but I hope I live long enough to never see another defensive player win the Heisman other than Woodson.
Here's to you, Johnny Football.
I know what you meant but to say you want to live long enough to see something never happen seems strange. If you died in the next half hour and teo won you'd still get your wish...
Well if you really want to get technical about it.....
Johnny Football please. So sick of the ND crap.
After last bowl season.
I hate this song. I really hate it. And yet ESPN insists on playing it every commercial break. Rather listen to Pitbull at this point.
Playing Jump Around as they beat them by 10.
So much for the B1G being deep and loaded this year. Looks like Indiana, Ohio and Michigan are going to have to carry the conference this year.
We have Illinois at Gonzaga later tonight.
Minnesota is pretty damn good and MSU / Illinois will both be in the tourney with decent seeds.
Hold on. Wisconsin wasn't supposed to be nearly as good this year as usual, particularly after John Gasser was lost for the season. Bo Ryan may still squeeze a tourney bid out of them, but they're not a standard-bearer for the league or anything.
I hope Lee Corso retires after this season. This is getting painful to watch.
ESPN is bugging the hell out of me, while trying to hype this Heisman show, all of the sudden Woodson wasn't a priimarily defensive player they're trying to convince us, really?
Sir Charles played 90% on defense, he had some punt returns and played a few plays on offense, quit trying to make it sound like Te'o would be the 1st defensive player, FU espn assholes
Not watching, so I don't what they're saying exactly. But if Teo wins, he would be the 1st Defense-Only player to win it
Oh my, Desmond Howard... telling Te'o how "cute" his necklace is. Subtly asserting his Alpha male status over the young bucks.
He is the Herm of the Heisman telecast.
So what are your memories of the Terry Baker season, Herm?
Sparty is a dick.
Why does nobody point out the fact that Manziel is not really even a freshman? He is a sophmore in college who happens to have the eligibility of a freshman, totally different accomplishment if he wins vs. a true freshman winning IMO. Him winning this year is really not any different then Tebow winning as a true sophmore.
Maybe, but no one even knew he'd win the starting job. Truthfully, this is closer to a Denard scenario than Tebow... Tebow had snaps his frosh year, Manziel didn't IIRC. Tebow was designated starter. Sure, Manziel isn't a 17-18 y/o, but this was his first year..and in the SEC.
I'm not saying that Manziel hasn't been impressive. I'm just saying it is somewhat disingenuous and annoying that the media is hyping him as the first freshman ever to win without mentioning that he is actually a RS Freshman.
Guh. Double post.
It's not the same thing. Tebow had prior college game experience the year he won. Manziel did not.
Sick of the parsing of roles. Charles is the first and greatest defensive player to win the Heisman..
Perhaps Te'o is exclusive to D because he can't contribute to O like Charles ...
Manziel for Heisman.
I nominate Herm for president of the Interwebz.
Just because at least he wore a tie with his team colors.
OMGZ WOODSON SIGHTING ON THE HEISMAN HOUSE FEATURE.
Cue the ND ass kissing fest.
Does Te'o remind anyone else of that Oscar the Grouch character from Seasame Street?