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ESPN Open Thread: Heisman Trophy followed by 30 for 30 "You Don't Know Bo"
Who's going to win? The freshman or the defensive player? Followed by a guy who could probably do both, the greatest Tecmo Bowl player of all time, Bo Jackson. Be interested to see what those too young to remember him think of this show. (Bo on again at midnight on the Deuce if you came to this thread later)

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December 8th, 2012 at 8:48 PM | Johnny Football deserves it (Score:5 Normal)
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The dude from ND is a great media story. That is all.

Its called a royale with cheese

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December 8th, 2012 at 8:50 PM | Are his numbers really Heisman worthy? (Score:2 Normal)
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I saw Dat Nyguen's numbers from his sr. Yr and they were great. No Heisman hype. Are there LB's this yr w numbers comparable to T'eo?

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December 8th, 2012 at 8:57 PM | Why does that Notre Dame (Score:1 Normal)
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Why does that Notre Dame player have a bunch of leaves around his neck?  It makes him look like he's on marijuana.

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:30 PM | Hawaiian? (Score:5 Normal)
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Hawaiian?

Touchdown Michigan!

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:37 PM | You don't see Johnny Manziel (Score:2 Trolling)
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Well you don't see Johnny Manziel in a damn ten gallon hat.  Maybe he should be wearing one of those skirts then too if he really wanted to "honor" his state or what have you.

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:56 PM | (No subject) (Score:2)
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December 8th, 2012 at 10:48 PM | Is this guy for real or is he (Score:5 Normal)
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Is this guy for real or is he just an elaborate shit-boomer troll?

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December 8th, 2012 at 11:30 PM |    elaborate shit-boomer (Score:5 Normal)
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 elaborate shit-boomer troll is my guess.  Something similar to wolverineinabag/rdt.  Someone who obviously has way too much free time on his/her hands.  

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:24 PM | It's Nguyen (Score:3 Normal)
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It's Nguyen

The best thing about being married??? I get to stick it to a Spartan on a regular basis.

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December 8th, 2012 at 8:50 PM | Manti Te'o (Score:2)
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Could the Heisman Curse cause Notre Dame to lose to Alabama in the National Championship Game?

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December 8th, 2012 at 8:52 PM | Pretty sure with or without (Score:5 Normal)
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Pretty sure with or without the Heisman Curse, ND will probably lose to Bama.

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December 8th, 2012 at 8:50 PM | Bo (Score:2 Normal)
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Screw the heisman. Thanks for the heads up on the Bo 30 for 30

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December 8th, 2012 at 8:57 PM | Yeah, I'm not sure either one (Score:3 Normal)
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Yeah, I'm not sure either one will rate a big thread. Figured together we could save some board clutter. And they are both college football related.

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December 8th, 2012 at 8:51 PM | Johnny Heisman (Score:2)
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Johnny Heisman

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December 8th, 2012 at 8:51 PM | Te'o was set up to be given (Score:1)
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Te'o was set up to be given the Heisman this year. He's had every award given to him, plus one, that Charles Wooodson had the year he won the Heisman. If Te'o doesn't win it I will be shocked.

 

 

 

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December 8th, 2012 at 8:54 PM | What a bloody sham. (Score:2)
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What a bloody sham.

Bears Beets Battlestar Galactica

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December 8th, 2012 at 8:56 PM | Johnny Football (Score:1)
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He should be the clear winner. He broke the SEC record for total offense in a season. The guy who held the record before him won the Heisman. If Te'o had taken a couple of his picks to the house I could've maybe agreed a little more with his candidacy.

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December 8th, 2012 at 8:59 PM | FU teo.  Woodson will always (Score:2 Normal)
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FU teo. 

Woodson will always be the one and only on defense to ever win the heisman. 

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:01 PM | Wisconsin down 8 to (Score:1 Offtopic)
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Wisconsin down 8 to Marquette. Over 2 minutes left.

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:03 PM | Johnny football (Score:2 Normal)
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He's electric. He set a SEC record. Crazy good.

Te'o is a big, tough dude but no records and simply ND hype.

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:13 PM | ND hype. Exactly why he has a (Score:4 Normal)
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ND hype. Exactly why he has a legit chance to win.

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:04 PM | Johnny Football (Score:1)
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clap clap clapclapclap! GO JOHNNY GO!

We hate Michigan State. We don't like Penn State too. We don't care for Minnesota, Wisconsin or Notre Dame but we all hate O-S-U.

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:05 PM | Colin Klein would be winning (Score:2 Normal)
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Colin Klein would be winning this if he didn't blow it against Baylor. That being said, he's a great football player, and I hope he leads K-State to an upset over Oregon. Klein won't win tonight, but he deserves to be there.



I respect the hell out of Manti T'eo. He's got some of the best linebacker instincts of anyone who plays that position right now, and I have a feeling that he will translate very well into the NFL. But I can't bring myself to endorse him for the award for two reasons: 1) I hate Notre Dame, and 2) For a defensive guy to win, I think he needs to find multiple ways to get the ball in his hands, a la Charles Woodson. T'eo is a playmaker, but he's not as versatile as Woodson was, and I think Woodson set the standard for any defensive player that had any hope to win the Heisman. T'eo is one of the best football players in college football right now, but I hope I live long enough to never see another defensive player win the Heisman other than Woodson.



Here's to you, Johnny Football.

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:14 PM | I know what you meant but to (Score:5 Normal)
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I know what you meant but to say you want to live long enough to see something never happen seems strange. If you died in the next half hour and teo won you'd still get your wish...

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:44 PM | Well if you really want to (Score:1)
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Well if you really want to get technical about it.....

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:08 PM | Johnny Football (Score:1)
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Johnny Football please. So sick of the ND crap.

"But in the tire fire that was last year's secondary he showed a little spark." - Brian Cook

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:08 PM | I thought we were done with Nelly (Score:3 Normal)
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After last bowl season.

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:09 PM | I hate this song. I really (Score:5 Normal)
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I hate this song. I really hate it. And yet ESPN insists on playing it every commercial break. Rather listen to Pitbull at this point. 

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:11 PM | Marquette mocking the Badgers (Score:1 Normal)
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Playing Jump Around as they beat them by 10.

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:14 PM | So much for the B1G being (Score:0 Offtopic)
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So much for the B1G being deep and loaded this year. Looks like Indiana, Ohio and Michigan are going to have to carry the conference this year.

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:17 PM | Could get worse. (Score:0 Offtopic)
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We have Illinois at Gonzaga later tonight.

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:18 PM | Minnesota is pretty damn good (Score:1 Offtopic)
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Minnesota is pretty damn good and MSU / Illinois will both be in the tourney with decent seeds.

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:34 PM | Hold on.  Wisconsin wasn't (Score:2 Normal)
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Hold on.  Wisconsin wasn't supposed to be nearly as good this year as usual, particularly after John Gasser was lost for the season.  Bo Ryan may still squeeze a tourney bid out of them, but they're not a standard-bearer for the league or anything.  

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:16 PM | I hope Lee Corso retires (Score:5 Normal)
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I hope Lee Corso retires after this season. This is getting painful to watch. 

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:18 PM | Quick Heisman facts just a Did You Know (Score:1)
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Texas A&M has only one Heisman winner with John David Crow in 1957. Notre Dame has 7 Heisman winners. Kansas St has no Heisman trophy winner.  Kleion  Klien  k    

Klein would be a legend at Kansas St if he wins the vote without winning a national title or playing for one.

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:20 PM | Go Johnny, go, go, go (Score:5 Normal)
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ESPN is bugging the hell out of me, while trying to hype this Heisman show, all of the sudden Woodson wasn't a priimarily defensive player they're trying to convince us, really?

Sir Charles played 90% on defense, he had some punt returns and played a few plays on offense, quit trying to make it sound like Te'o would be the 1st defensive player, FU espn assholes

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:24 PM | Not watching, so I don't what (Score:3 Normal)
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Not watching, so I don't what they're saying exactly. But if Teo wins, he would be the 1st Defense-Only player to win it

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:18 PM | Oh my, Desmond Howard... (Score:5 Normal)
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Oh my, Desmond Howard... telling Te'o how "cute" his necklace is.  Subtly asserting his Alpha male status over the young bucks.

~Herm

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:23 PM | He is the Herm of the Heisman (Score:5 Normal)
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He is the Herm of the Heisman telecast. 

Strive to win. If you lose....win. 

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:25 PM | So what are your memories of (Score:3 Normal)
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So what are your memories of the Terry Baker season, Herm?

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:26 PM | Even in ESPN fantasy world (Score:2)
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Sparty is a dick.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:27 PM | Why does nobody point out the fact that (Score:5 Normal)
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Why does nobody point out the fact that Manziel is not really even a freshman?  He is a sophmore in college who happens to have the eligibility of a freshman, totally different accomplishment if he wins vs. a true freshman winning IMO.  Him winning this year is really not any different then Tebow winning as a true sophmore.  

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:34 PM | Maybe, but no one even knew (Score:2)
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Maybe, but no one even knew he'd win the starting job.  Truthfully, this is closer to a Denard scenario than Tebow... Tebow had snaps his frosh year, Manziel didn't IIRC.  Tebow was designated starter. Sure, Manziel isn't a 17-18 y/o, but this was his first year..and in the SEC.

Touchdown Michigan!

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:40 PM | I'm not saying that (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm not saying that Manziel hasn't been impressive.  I'm just saying it is somewhat disingenuous and annoying that the media is hyping him as the first freshman ever to win without mentioning that he is actually a RS Freshman.  

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:41 PM | Guh Double post. (Score:2)
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Guh. Double post. 

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:40 PM | It's not the same thing. (Score:2)
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It's not the same thing. Tebow had prior college game experience the year he won. Manziel did not.

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:30 PM | Only "exclusive" D player (Score:3 Normal)
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Sick of the parsing of roles. Charles is the first and greatest defensive player to win the Heisman..

Perhaps Te'o is exclusive to D because he can't contribute to O like Charles ...

"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak.  But it takes everybody."  - Charles Woodson

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:42 PM | Yes, exactly (Score:0 Offtopic)
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Manziel for Heisman.

...confidence is the stain they can't wipe off...

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:30 PM | I nominate Herm for president (Score:2 Normal)
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I nominate Herm for president of the Interwebz. 

When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....

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December 8th, 2012 at 9:33 PM | I want Klein to win (Score:2)
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Just because at least he wore a tie with his team colors.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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