have fun hanging with cows, and sheep at the Michigan Staee school of Agriculture.
have fun hanging with cows, and sheep at the Michigan Staee school of Agriculture.
Also bring lots of matches, I know lighters might be too hard to operate, and enjoy burning the many corpses of littered couches strewn on the streets in E. Losing.
This is like the third post about this. I realize the first one was removed due to speculation though.
I thought we were no longer pursuing him?
Reported that Michigan canceled his visit. Sounds like Harris brought his friends on the visit to MSU (party time) and wanted to bring them along to UM. Michigan told him something along the lines of MSU is the place for you then. This was posted on Mlive but was originally on Scout.
Sam Webb says a lot of things...
I have no idea if that thirdhand info is accurate or not, but it would be entirely in keeping with Beilein's MO to take the way a possible transfer/prospect handles campus visits into account in deciding whether to continue recruiting that player. It's all part of his vetting process, and it's one of the reasons why he insists on a prospect visiting Ann Arbor before making an official scholarship offer.
...and Beilein's MO of talking to different members of a student's community, including lesser appreciated workers like janitors and cafeteria workers.
That was how Bacari Alexander found out that McGary was a genuinely nice guy. Bacari talked to a groundskeeper at his school and got a story about a freshman bawling when the kid's mom dropped him off. McGary saw the kid, consoled him, and brought him into the school with McGary's friends. One of my favorite Michigan stories. (ESPN Insider - $)
And he is usually right in those situations.
If anyone seriously believes the ludicrous story about Harris' visit to East Lansing...Well, look, some people can convince themselves of some fascinating stuff to save face/pride/respect...However you want to phrase it.
The bottom line, the astute observers on this board, that waxed poetically about the demise (hell, even the decline) of Izzo and MSU Basketball, are just thinking a little too much with their hearts, and not quite enough with their heads.
And what would be so unbelievable about Beilein requesting that he take a visit seriously enough that he doesn't need his friends around anyway?
I think this story is a bit dubious as well, but considering we have another pretty high-profile kid in McDowell going to MSU and reports coming out that there might have been an extra-curricular component, it isn't out of the realm of possibility. That said, this ship has sailed, and I wish Harris the best except when he plays UM.
I don't know. Sam's a reliable source and that's a pretty specific explanation. I'm inclined to believe it.
Very well could be the case. I guess I'm always a bit skeptical when the story about a missed recruit is that he wanted to party super-hard at the rival's school (known for being a party school with less, um, studious students) and the other school told him "good sir, we are an academic institution first. Maybe this type of behavior flies at Moo U, but certainly not here. Good Day!"
But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case. Beilein seems like the type of coach who would cut contact with a kid who didn't fit the mold as much as the playbook.
Sam never mentioned that he went to MSU and had an all night bender and wanted to bring the party to Ann Arbor either. All he said that Eron wanted some of his friends come along and Beilein respectfully declined.
Your version of what Sam said sounds entirely plausible.
How do I give you -1 for your first paragraph and +1 for your second?
Edit: reply to Moisturize
I guess just sit tight?
Yeah, he is also right more often than not. Name another UM based reporter as connected as he is.
accurate. So, what's your real point?
and he's right very often.
He's not going to like what Sam Webb says.
This makes more sense. I tend to believe this is true.
Not a big surprise. I have a friend who goes there and says that their bball players are always at the bars and rarely go to class.
allowed that up in East Lansing. . . .
If there is anything that Tom Izzo has proven, it's that he will allow players to do whatever they want to off the court as long as they take care of business on it.
If I was a kid I would want to go there, but if I was a parent, I would want him to stay away.
Sucks he's going to MSU, I think he's a good player. But I don't think their offense will take advantage of his strengths as much as Michigan's would. Not that he'll be ineffective at MSU or anything like that though.
At least he's already used to losing to Michigan from that beatdown in Brooklyn. Won't be much different, except he has to learn to play the injury whining violin that izzo has mastered.
Word out of East Lansing is that Harris is already banged up and he was fouled on at least three plays that were not called.
And his back up is a weird guy.
Jabrill is on campus in less than two weeks!
THAT is the understatement of the year. Its not a lighter note at all... I. Fact its far bigger than this Harris news. Peppers is bringing the hammer back to our football program, and thank goodness.
I think you meant "on a positive note."
and with that Izzo announces Eron Harris' first injury....
I called this 4 weeks and 2 days ago... (Yes, I want a cookie)
You made it sound like we would lose out on him. From what I read we were in very good shape until he pissed off Beilein and showed that partying was more important to him.
Not close? I said he'd end up at one of two schools. He did. That's it. I wasn't predicting how the process wouldp play out, just how it would end. It was a light-hearted statement above, I'm not pretending to be some know-it-all. I know the internet is hard to convey things, light-hearted jabs/sarcasm/etc., but again, it was a simple, sophomoric "I told you so". I just had a feeling our dumb luck, if you will, would have him end up at one of our rivals, and sure enough, it seems as though that will happen.
Congrats on saying a recruit will wind up at one of the two other programs actively recruiting him.
You also said that UM was losing "TOP NOTCH/ELITE" kids, which is why UM is bringing in 2 top-100 players. I think Harris will be okay at MSU, but he's not known for his defense and Izzo's offenses have not been that dynamic recently, especially when Harris wasn't shooting well or creating off the dribble. I doubt Eron sniffs anything close to the numbers he put up this year, and wouldn't be surprised if he became nothing more than a situational shooter unless Izzo works some amazing magic with him.
Gracias (love me some Ross). (I stated that when 11 schools were interested in him, 18% chance deserves a cookie?!) but yeah, I tend to agree. I've seen him play and once he was in the discussion for coming here, I felt it would be a decent addition to the team. In a way it sucks we won't get him but of course we'll "survive" without him. It'll be an interesting fit for him in EL, we'll see how it goes. Hopefully you're right, he never ends up playing as a typical Izzo guy.
There's going to be some celebrating up in EL this weekend!
And yes, I'm sorry about the dregging up this memory.
Do you realize that he didn't really punch him?
You and your pesky facts!
It seemed odd that he would not at least visit. That said it's also very possible that the kid just decided he wanted to play for Sparty. Believe it or not it happens.
No big loss. I like hearing that we've landed a big player as much as the next guy, but if MSU is the place for him, fine. Beilein has show he can do as much as anybody in the country with so called lesser talent (based on star ratings). Harris is a good player but Beilein and co will be fine. Maybe it's the Bud Light's talking, but from what I've seen in Beilein, as good as Izzo has been historically, I'm more confidend in what Beilein is doing currently with the progam than what Izzo is doing. Beilein will develop whatever 3 star or 4 star he lands into a first round NBA talent and we'll all be happy watching that happen. I truly believe a shifting of the guard is happening where Beilein will be the new standard in the B1G for developing talent / success, which is what the young kids want.
read multiple reports that Michigan lost interest. I don't know if Webb's version is accurate though.
Michigan's staff has talked multiple times about team chemistry and the non-basketball factors they evaluate. This is why we don't see JB having sleepovers like Izzo did a few years ago when he was struggling with team chemistry.
telling him to go to MSU when Purdue is still in the running.
Honestly not trying to troll here. Do people here actually believe that a Division 1 basketball coach of any kind would actually let a potential recruit, transfer or not, bring his group of friends for a visit and party?
I mean, I know you guys don't like Izzo, but even dbags like Self and Calipari wouldn't let something like that happen. All I ever hear from UM fans is how Izzo is an old grumpy man who won't let his players have any fun. But yes, despite that, he will let recruits bring their posse to campus for the weekend and get down.
Just my two cents.
Who knows so much is speculation and this being a Michigan board a lot of peopel want to use any nugget to throw Izzo under into the fire. Who knows what happens when it comes to visits Im sure theres not a huge screening process as to who can come and who can not. That being said, Beilien's track road for recruiting exceptional young men and developing them with their basketball skills is exceptional. I dont follow basketball close enough to give an expert opiinion, but when you consider Beilein has had a hand in developing under the radar guys like Burke, Hardaway Jr, Robinson, and Stauskas, its pretty impressive.
Nah I mean that's totally fair. I'm not gonna act like crazy things aren't said on MSU message boards as well. This just really caught my attention as something so ridiculously far fetched.
More than anything I just think Sam Webb is pathetic. I thought the whole McDowell thing would end his credibility but apparently not.
He's a homer at times but he's also pretty plugged in. It wouldn't be that big of a stretch considering that he was visiting us this weekend then suddenly we stopped recruiting him.
you posted more often so I could downvote you more.
Would you really have a problem with it if Izzo let him bring a couple friends with him to party it up a bit? In an environment as dirty as college basketball recruiting, Izzo and Belein have to fight against schools they you know aren't playing by the rules, I would have no problem if Belein let the kid bring a couple friends with him to AA. We can't offer him what a Kentucky or Kansas can and they are trying to sell the kid on their school. Stop acting like it's so dam outrageous to think Izzo would let the guy do it..it's not.
Either way it has worked for us to do what we've done. Plus we're still probably landing a 5 star in Coleman and Eron Harris would only play for 2 years here before leaving.
"Plus we're still probably landing a 5 star in Coleman"
Now he is going to ND or Ill. Thanks.
To each their own, but yes I would personally be a bit appalled if Izzo let the kid bring his friends up to party for the weekend. I wouldn't expect something like that from either Izzo or Beilein, who I would consider two of the cleanest coaches in the game.
Kinda funny my buddy at work is a huge Sparty hoop slappy and he doesn't want anything to do with him. Says if he can't handle Huggins's way of coaching,
Won't fit in with it IZZO.
My thoughts exactly. If he had issues with Huggins's coaching style, I guess he's never seen Izzo and his antics.
had Rob Parker on. I can't stand Parker and this is only him talking but he said Izzo to the Timberwolves was a done deal if Minnesota could have guaranteed that Kevin Love would re-sign. I'm not going to start a thread because there is no way to prove or disprove this but I thought I'd throw it out here.
I am a Spartan now... can't wait to get started at my new home!
— King Eron Harris (@eronjoseph) June 9, 2014
I wonder how Izzo is going to like the twitter name. Don't get me wrong. I would have liked to get him based on performance but I trust Beilein's decisions and I look at the rumors and his twitter handle and wonder if there isn't a bit of entitlement.