yes plz
Eric Olson deciding any day
The OT prospect has visited his 5 favorites including, most recently, Michigan. He is now ready to make a decision and the timing points to a Michigan verbal. Personally I think the coaches should hold off on Olson and try to shoot for one of the many elite lineman Michigan has a great shot at, but thats just me.
June 14th, 2011 at 4:20 PM | 
What I dont get
What I dont get
June 14th, 2011 at 4:50 PM |
apparently.
apparently.
you get what you pay for...
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June 14th, 2011 at 10:50 PM |
Didn't he just buy the Pistons?
Didn't he just buy the Pistons?
I think he gets a mulligan for that.
June 14th, 2011 at 4:20 PM |
I'm sure the coaches have it
I'm sure the coaches have it
I'm sure the coaches have it under control. They know how to analyze talent and they know how to count to 25/26.
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June 14th, 2011 at 4:25 PM |
I mean
I mean
the first part of your second sentence is still unproven, right? It's pretty clear now that the staff are fantastic recruiters (i.e., they're awesome at getting kids to want to come to Michigan). But they haven't had a single team take the field at Michigan yet, let alone have a class they recruited come through the program.
I absolutely trust the coaches' ability to get talent excited about Michigan, but I don't feel like I have anywhere near enough data points to know whether they're good at identifying sleepers or not. Given how correlated recruiting rankings are with college productivity, I can't fault anyone for wondering why we're going so hard after Olson so early in the process with so many big name OL on the board (this isn't to say Olson isn't a good prospect, just that we seem to be moving pretty fast on it).
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June 14th, 2011 at 4:27 PM |
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Tom mentioned that he would have a lot
More offers, but is very high on academics and basically told them not to bother. In essence he narrowed his list before it ever really got started.
June 14th, 2011 at 4:30 PM |
Yeah I've heard that
Yeah I've heard that
But I haven't heard anyone say what teams would have offered if he weren't so focused on academics, and there are some academic powerhouses with good football teams who haven't offered (Stanford and ND, for example).
I won't be angry if he ends up in the class or anything. Just wouldn't mind seeing the board shake itself out a bit first.
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
June 14th, 2011 at 4:36 PM |
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Hey I'm with you, just trying to look at things with the glass half full
June 14th, 2011 at 9:15 PM |
I think he was considering
I think he was considering
I think he was considering camping at Stanford in hopes of an offer. I'm curious as to where the OP got this info.
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June 14th, 2011 at 8:09 PM |
FWIW
FWIW
In HS, I competed against Olson's HS. His offer sheet is schools that most guys at his school or mine would want to get in and attend, such as Duke, Virginia, and Boston College. This doesn't make him a better or worse football player, but it isn't hard for me to believe that his offers are the ones that he wanted.
BBN is known for academics more than sports. The idea that he is eyeing a good business program, as opposed to a pure football factory is completely likely for a BBN guy.
Also, things very well may have changed since I was in HS, but there would not have been a lot of scouts showing up to BBN games, and they wouldn't have played anyone noteworthy, hindering his chances at getting those high rankings. I am sure that the people giving out the stars have only seen video as opposed to seeing him in person.
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June 14th, 2011 at 9:10 PM |
ISL
ISL
Where'd you go and what year did you graduate?
(I was a BB&N '06)
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June 14th, 2011 at 9:23 PM |
HS
HS
Portsmouth Abbey, '88. Do we still compete in anything?
When I went there, we always wrestled against BBN in a tri meet with St. Mark's. It was a long time ago, but I think that I also drew a BBN wrestler in the first round of the Graves-Kelsey tournament. I always wondered why BBN and St. Mark's got packaged together, but never bothered to ask. Do they still do that?
PS - As I am sure you probably know, basketball commit Nik Stauskas currently plays for St. Mark's . . .
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June 14th, 2011 at 9:52 PM |
I don't know
I don't know
We might compete in early season basketball or something and may be New Englands if both teams are doing well.
I posted this in the first Olson thread, but in my years at BB&N, the team sucked until my senior year when they got a new coach. The new coach has rejuvenated the program and BB&N has consistently been amongst the best (if not the best) team in the ISL. They've won three consecutive ISL titles (Lawrence had a recruiting scandal?). I think they won NEs in 08? The program really has gotten better where it used to be a joke. I don't know how good our football team was in the late-80s.
I do agree with your assessment though that most of the players in the ISL and most of the elite NE prep schools get attention from BC and the Ivys plus some of the small D3 preps.
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June 14th, 2011 at 10:03 PM |
the times, they are becoming quite different
the times, they are becoming quite different
In the late 80s, the kind of programs that we went to were pretty bad at football and basketball. The only way we typically had guys get into college athletics programs would be hockey, lacrosse, or one of the obscure sports, like squash or whatever. It seems like the times have really changed though, and now the prep schools are getting more involved in football and basketball. I don't know what prompted the change, but that's just how it looks.
I don't know about you, but out of my class of 75 or so seniors, over ten went to BC, and over ten went to Georgetown. Obviously, the Abbey is Catholic though, so the fact that we skew to the Jesuit schools isn't that surprising. But most guys when I was in school knew that their future career wasn't in athletics and would rather get in Amherst or Williams than a school with a big football or basketball program.
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June 14th, 2011 at 11:35 PM |
But most guys when I was in
But most guys when I was in
But most guys when I was in school knew that their future career wasn't in athletics and would rather get in Amherst or Williams than a school with a big football or basketball program.
I think this last part still holds true for the most part. I think there have been one or two kids each year trying to make the leap to a D1 BCS program (can I call BC that?). I just think the ISL has just gotten more competitive on the sports field or rather certain sports have become more of a priority to develop, in particular football.
I know my senior year, our football team played Bel Hill at BC. That was a pretty neat. I don't think they could have ever done it before then though.
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June 15th, 2011 at 12:04 AM |
I just took a look at the
I just took a look at the
I just took a look at the Abbey web site, and it looks like we are still going to do best at those sports that coddled preppies do well at, and for good reason. How many public schools have a sailing team, and even if they did, would the kids know how to do it? Looks like our lacrosse is doing well too. I wonder if any of our guys will eye the new UM program.
I noticed that the Abbey and BBN don't do much together anymore, but still have a bit of contact. I noticed that in baseball, BBN clobbered us.
Sadly, we don't even have wrestling anymore. Oh well . . .
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June 15th, 2011 at 11:37 AM |
Yeah I think most of the
Yeah I think most of the
Yeah I think most of the games are concentrated within the respective leagues.
Wrestling seems to be one of the sports that coed schools struggle at and the all-boys schools thrive. I guess something about having to duke it out with another dude in a onesie makes it the bottom of the totem pole. We always struggled to fill the roster with guys. We had to forfeit a lot of matches. A lot of my friends were on the team; I felt pretty bad for them because they'd individually be good, but the team would lose due to lack of numbers.
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June 14th, 2011 at 4:31 PM |
When looking at the talent
When looking at the talent
When looking at the talent and turnaround at S.D.State and the fact that Ball State had 12 wins under Hoke, I assume he knows what he's doing with getting the best out of his recruits.
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June 14th, 2011 at 4:36 PM |
Meh, I don't want to rehash the debate
Meh, I don't want to rehash the debate
over Hoke's resume. Let's just say I'm not comfortable with "trust the coaches" before they've even coached a game here.
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June 14th, 2011 at 4:42 PM |
I think in order to recruit
I think in order to recruit
I think in order to recruit and succeed at Ball State and San Diego State, you will need to identify talent pretty well.
June 14th, 2011 at 5:38 PM |
Hoke and Mattison
Hoke and Mattison
have both recruited and coached their recruits at Michigan. Mattison also recruited Floridas National Campionship squads, but both his full classes were ranked 1 and 2.
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June 14th, 2011 at 4:29 PM |
I know Tom said that Olsen
I know Tom said that Olsen
I know Tom said that Olsen has controlled his offer list and only wants elite academic institutions, but put me in the camp that's a little skeptical. We're in on a LOT of top-tier linemen, and there's always the option to offer Magnuson's friend (who is excellent, and - according to Magnuson - likely to come if he gets an offer). This isn't to say I don't think Olsen is good, it's just that we seem to be in on a whole lot of huge names at this point.
Denard has spent the offseason working really hard and smiling at people.
June 14th, 2011 at 4:37 PM |
Wow - Gores knows how to copy
Wow - Gores knows how to copy
Wow - Gores knows how to copy article titles wholesale from Rivals. I'm impressed.
June 14th, 2011 at 4:44 PM |
uNRANKED
uNRANKED
This guy is unranked by all three of the major recruiting sites. We have limited space left in our class, and there are several 4 and 5 star prospects interested in UMich. I can't imagine that the UM coaches haven't cooled off on this kid and pulled their offer before he accepts. There could be no other explanation, but that he is going somewhere else.
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June 14th, 2011 at 4:47 PM |
The explanation could be that
The explanation could be that
The explanation could be that the coaches like this kid and want him to be part of the class.
June 14th, 2011 at 4:59 PM |
He's a 3 star (5.6) to
He's a 3 star (5.6) to
He's a 3 star (5.6) to Rivals.
June 14th, 2011 at 4:52 PM |
Can Olsen play OG?
Can Olsen play OG?
Can Olsen play OG?
June 14th, 2011 at 4:58 PM |
Does anyone have highllights
Does anyone have highllights
Does anyone have highllights of this guy?
ty
June 14th, 2011 at 4:59 PM |
Exactly, recruiting sites aren't everything
Exactly, recruiting sites aren't everything
Coaches were able to recruit before the internet, they have their own criteria. If they offer a kid who is ranked low because he didn't market himself by going to all of the camps the sites pay attention to, it doesn't mean the coaches don't think he is a better fit than someone highly ranked.
Recruiting sites are for the fans. It's like complaining about an NFL team drafting someone ranked below one of Mel Kiper's favorites.
June 14th, 2011 at 5:11 PM |
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What are his other offers?
June 14th, 2011 at 5:14 PM |
Boston College, Duke, Virginia, And I think Uconn but not sure about the last one
June 14th, 2011 at 5:18 PM |
He looks o.k but I thought
He looks o.k but I thought
He looks o.k but I thought Diamond would be the RT in this class.
ty
June 14th, 2011 at 5:33 PM |
I think this could be a case of Massachusetts
I think this could be a case of Massachusetts
I think this could be a case of Massachusetts not being scouted very well.
I just looked at how many players from MA were in the NFL in 2009 and it was 15. If you look at Arizona is was 16, Oregan 12, and Washington 16. If you follow recruiting you probably don't think of Massachusetts as on even ground with those three west coast states but at least if you take snapshot in 2009 they were.
Point being, there may be some great prospects coming out of MA that just aren't being scouted as heavily or are being discounted due to competition. I don't think the coaches would take Olsen if they didn't think he was on par with the other linemen or that the other guys aren't as likely to commit as we imagine.
T
June 14th, 2011 at 5:49 PM |
Honestly if we end up taking
Honestly if we end up taking
Honestly if we end up taking Olson but we pretty much passed on Wayne Morgan and Armani Reeves I'm gonna be a little pissed.
"And they'll never catch him..."
June 14th, 2011 at 5:56 PM |
Diamond ?
Diamond ?
Isn't Jordan Diamond supposed to be visiting the campus this week ? Per Tom's interview with his mom last week:
MRS. DIAMOND: Next weekend, we'll leave here Wednesday morning for Michigan and we'll be back Sunday. He's not participating in any more camps, but he'll be watching some of his teammates at the Sound Mind Sound Body camp.
Sure hope we land Jordan, and then can get E. Olson's commitment " a diamond in the rough " !!!!
+2
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June 14th, 2011 at 5:59 PM |
Aren't we only taking two more o-line commits? If so I would pass on olson, get diamond and wait on some guys like paul thurston, andrus peat, kyle kalis, adam bisnowaty etc., or any others..just my opinion
June 14th, 2011 at 6:01 PM |
what's with all of the cheap shots
what's with all of the cheap shots
Even the topic question has a little cheap shot in it. Give it a break already and let the caching staff make the calls.
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June 14th, 2011 at 7:16 PM |
So we're talking about
So we're talking about
So we're talking about booting some fifth year seniors like Terrence Robinson or Mike Cox to make room for recruits, and one of the guys that we make room for is a generously-rated three-star whose best competing offer is from Boston College?
June 14th, 2011 at 7:31 PM |
BC is an offensive line
BC is an offensive line
BC is an offensive line factory for the NFL. An offer from them carries a lot of weight.
June 14th, 2011 at 7:42 PM |
BC is a big offer for OL's
BC is a big offer for OL's
Take a look at this article that mentions all the talent that has come out of there recently.
T
June 14th, 2011 at 7:17 PM |
I'm sure nobody cares but
I'm sure nobody cares but
Olsens are typically from Norway or Denmark and Olsons from Sweden.
June 14th, 2011 at 8:08 PM |
Molsons are from Canada.
Molsons are from Canada.
Molsons are from Canada.
June 14th, 2011 at 10:04 PM |
I'm sure everyone will care but
I'm sure everyone will care but
Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen are from my bedroom . . .
Ok, I just made that up to sound impressive. It would have been cool if they did though . . .
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June 14th, 2011 at 9:24 PM |
I trust the coaches, and if
I trust the coaches, and if
I trust the coaches, and if they feel he is a top lineman worthy of an offer this early and a spot in this class, then I am completely fine with him become an outstanding Wolverine, both in the football field and in the classroom. Hoke and Mattison maybe more defensive lineman guys, but they know the trenches well and know what it takes to succeed there, both on defense and offense.
However, if he wants to come to Michigan more for the academics (top 5 business school) then the football program, is it possible that he might come/commit as a preferred walk-on? (If infact the coaches made his offer uncommitable due to other higher rated prospects)
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June 14th, 2011 at 11:40 PM |
However, if he wants to come
However, if he wants to come
However, if he wants to come to Michigan more for the academics (top 5 business school) then the football program, is it possible that he might come/commit as a preferred walk-on? (If infact the coaches made his offer uncommitable due to other higher rated prospects)
I don't think this really makes sense when he has scholarship offers from equally prestigious universities. UVa has a great business program as well. Northwestern is a great school with very good Econ program as well as the Kellogg Certificate Program. Duke has something similar. BC has a decent business school. Of course, none of them are on the level of Michigan in terms of football, but academically, he has some very good options.
I understand the sort of apprehensiveness in potentially taking a kid like Olson when you have higher ranked guys that could potentially come here, but you also have to realize that if a guy commits to Michigan, he's our guy. I think Olson will be a high character guy for our team, the type of character we expect from our football players.
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Is how you were able to post a board topic with only 13 points
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